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SmarterThanYou said:
freud did have a few things to say about weapons.

"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."
> --Sigmund Freud, General Introduction to Psychoanalysis (1952)
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Stupid bitch...I am not above research and proving asses, "dead wrong".


http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Sigmund_Freud


[edit] Misattributed
A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. This is not a statement that appears in any translation of any of Freud's works. It is a paraphrase of a statement from the essay "Guns, Murders, and the Constitution" (February 1990) by Don B. Kates, Jr. where Kates summarizes his views of passages in Dreams in Folklore (1958) by Freud and David E. Oppenheim, while disputing statements by Emmanuel Tanay in "Neurotic Attachment to Guns" in a 1976 edition of The Fifty Minute Hour: A Collection of True Psychoanalytic Tales (1955) by Robert Mitchell Lindner:

Dr. Tanay is perhaps unaware of — in any event, he does not cite — other passages more relevant to his argument. In these other passages Freud associates retarded sexual and emotional development not with gun ownership, but with fear and loathing of weapons. The probative importance that ought to be attached to the views of Freud is, of course, a matter of opinion. The point here is only that those views provide no support for the penis theory of gun ownership. Due to misreading of this essay and its citations, this paraphrase of an opinion about Freud's ideas has been wrongly attributed to Freud himself, and specifically to his 10th Lecture "Symbolism in Dreams" in General Introduction to Psychoanalysis on some internet forum pages: alt.quotations, uk.politics.guns, talk.politics.guns, can.talk.guns , etc. One of the statements by Freud which Kates summarized from in Dreams in Folklore (1958), p. 33, reads: "The representation of the penis as a weapon, cutting knife, dagger etc., is familiar to us from the anxiety dreams of abstinent women in particular and also lies at the root of numerous phobias in neurotic people."

Next time, get it correct. And don't try me.
 
poet said:
Well, then, post evidence which will refute Wiki.....your move. Otherwise, STFU.
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LOL, SmarterThanFew...

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Rune said:
Don't be an idiot. Freud has been completly disproven.
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Either he's been disproved and should be ignored, or you can use Freudian style examples of some sort of inane penis size equation when in an argument about weapons. You can spend many hours trying to defend the person you've stated was "completly disproven" (sic), or you can recognize that Freud's ideas were antiquated and his contribution was different than in proven theories....
 
Anyway, while misattributed, the quote is far more current, referring to both Freud and a book written about Freud's theories in 1958.

The true quote in context is:

Dr. Tanay is perhaps unaware of — in any event, he does not cite — other passages more relevant to his argument. In these other passages Freud associates retarded sexual and emotional development not with gun ownership, but with fear and loathing of weapons. The probative importance that ought to be attached to the views of Freud is, of course, a matter of opinion. The point here is only that those views provide no support for the penis theory of gun ownership.
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And here is a Freud quote, an actual one...

"The representation of the penis as a weapon, cutting knife, dagger etc., is familiar to us from the anxiety dreams of abstinent women in particular and also lies at the root of numerous phobias in neurotic people."
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Damocles said:
Anyway, while misattributed, the quote is far more current, referring to both Freud and a book written about Freud's theories in 1958. The true quote in context is: And here is a Freud quote, an actual one...
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And here is a rightie twisting himself into a pretzel in a futile attempt to un-pwn SmarterThanFew...

Take a bow, Dancin' Dalai!


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I actually agree with Dune on this one. Freud is a nuissance to academia and professional psychology, and his psychodynamic school has nothing to offer us today. His only remaining claim to fame is that he was "the first," and the "one who got the ball rolling for psychology."

Penis Envy, FTW
 
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