Unconscious? You Know You Wanted It

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Yurt said:
no idea...but weird that you allegedly did....must mean you saw it too :)

btw...what is the point of this thread?
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I think it's to do with the character of someone standing in one of your elections.

Or it was a trap to get you to mention onceler in yet another thread.
 
Onceler said:
I don't frequently do it. I do it with you a lot, because you are easily the biggest hypocrite on the board (as is evidenced by your whining defensiveness above).

Did you read the circumstances? Do you think they qualify as "implied consent"?
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Oh, I've no doubt he does.

And the women in his orbit should be warned. Terrible, just terrible.
 
Are we really saying that the fact this guy was charged with prosecuting crimes and decided that because she had consensual sex with her attacker in the past this time, even though she was not able to consent and in fact said she said no and her attacker acknowledged she said no, that it has no bearing on his ability to be a senator? a judge? a teacher? Fuck sake, you conservatives are every bit as eager to win control that you will overlook this incident. This is no different than the democrats clearing their own of ethical violations so that there is nothing that can be held against them during re-election. I KNOW that you righties are not this stupid.
 
Are we really saying that the fact this guy was charged with prosecuting crimes and decided that because she had consensual sex with her attacker in the past this time, even though she was not able to consent and in fact said she said no and her attacker acknowledged she said no, that it has no bearing on his ability to be a senator? a judge? a teacher? Fuck sake, you conservatives are every bit as eager to win control that you will overlook this incident. This is no different than the democrats clearing their own of ethical violations so that there is nothing that can be held against them during re-election. I KNOW that you righties are not this stupid.
 
Darla said:
Well, you were one step ahead of me then. I didn't see it coming. I don't really get it?

I am more and more convinced, totally seriously, that a good number of regulars here are drunks. I would guess drugs, but I don't think so.
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What's wrong with being a drunk?

As to the original post, I don't see all the outrage. I don't agree with his position as a prosecutor, but it hardly indicates he hates women or think that rape is ok. It more than likely has to do with the fact that he believes a jury would see implied consent and thus wanted a more open and shut case.
 
The King of Proles said:
What's wrong with being a drunk?

As to the original post, I don't see all the outrage. I don't agree with his position as a prosecutor, but it hardly indicates he hates women or think that rape is ok. It more than likely has to do with the fact that he believes a jury would see implied consent and thus wanted a more open and shut case.
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It's more than likely due to his belief that a woman he believes had an abortion and premarital sex is a big slut who consents to anything, and indeed, has no right not to consent.
 
Darla said:
It's more than likely due to his belief that a woman he believes had an abortion and premarital sex is a big slut who consents to anything, and indeed, has no right not to consent.
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Yeah, I didn't see that belief stated anywhere except in your own statements so.... I'm gonna err on the side of him simply wanting an easy case.
 
Onceler said:
I don't frequently do it. I do it with you a lot, because you are easily the biggest hypocrite on the board (as is evidenced by your whining defensiveness above).

Did you read the circumstances? Do you think they qualify as "implied consent"?
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more lies

do you really think his decision as a prosecutor expressly means he HATES women?

that was the point...yet you haven't addressed that once
 
Also, if the police had not been involved in the phone call or the recording, it would have been perfectly legal and admissible in a court for that recording to come in. Colorado is a one-party state and therefore the person being called does not have to be advised that the call is being recorded. California, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania and Washington are the only two party states in the US. All other states allow you to record phone calls without informing the other party. ALSO if you are calling someone in one of these states from a one party state, it is best to observe the two party law. There is only one case that I am aware of and it is a California case. But I would err on the side of the two party consent law state. Also, the fed only requires that one party consent to the recording of the phone call unless recorded with a valid warrant allowing for a wiretap. 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2511(2)(d). One more exception is the business telephone exception, your employer is allowed to record ALL your phone calls on phones they provide without notifying you.

Wow tangent alert. Sorry, guess what I was trying to say is that the Greely police fucked the pooch on this one. Someone should have "suggested" to her that she go home and call him and record. Then he would have been fucked.
 
Onceler said:
Does he mention my name a lot?

I hadn't really noticed....
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charver being a dumbass

i mean, wow...i mention your name in a thread you posted in

whats funny is charver never goes after you for talking about me...charver being a pussy here because he loves you and darla
 
Yurt said:
more lies

do you really think his decision as a prosecutor expressly means he HATES women?

that was the point...yet you haven't addressed that once
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More lies? Where did I lie? You're the one who has already contradicted yourself a few times; and this is just one thread.

Do I think it means he HATES women? I wouldn't say either way on that; not enough evidence, imo. Do I think the comments are revelatory & belong in a political campaign? You betchya....
 
Socrtease said:
Also, if the police had not been involved in the phone call or the recording, it would have been perfectly legal and admissible in a court for that recording to come in. Colorado is a one-party state and therefore the person being called does not have to be advised that the call is being recorded. California, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania and Washington are the only two party states in the US. All other states allow you to record phone calls without informing the other party. ALSO if you are calling someone in one of these states from a one party state, it is best to observe the two party law. There is only one case that I am aware of and it is a California case. But I would err on the side of the two party consent law state. Also, the fed only requires that one party consent to the recording of the phone call unless recorded with a valid warrant allowing for a wiretap. 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2511(2)(d). One more exception is the business telephone exception, your employer is allowed to record ALL your phone calls on phones they provide without notifying you.

Wow tangent alert. Sorry, guess what I was trying to say is that the Greely police fucked the pooch on this one. Someone should have "suggested" to her that she go home and call him and record. Then he would have been fucked.
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thats not a tangent alert....in fact....he said it was part of his decision not to prosecute...he simply didn't have enough evidence

that has nothing to do with whether he hates women...and he even mentioned the ramsey murder and how they would like to prosecute but can't for lack of evidence

this is just another dumbfuck thread by darla bashing men for making a decision
 
Yurt said:
charver being a dumbass

i mean, wow...i mention your name in a thread you posted in

whats funny is charver never goes after you for talking about me...charver being a pussy here because he loves you and darla
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Yeah - that's why I was asking him. I have NEVER seen you bring up my name in a thread I haven't posted in, or start threads about me, or anything like that....
 
Onceler said:
More lies? Where did I lie? You're the one who has already contradicted yourself a few times; and this is just one thread.

Do I think it means he HATES women? I wouldn't say either way on that; not enough evidence, imo. Do I think the comments are revelatory & belong in a political campaign? You betchya....
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i'm not the board's biggest hypocrite, but go ahead and spread your lies...youre the hypocrite for whining about others calling other hypocrites, yet you have no problem frequently calling others hypocrites.....its so painfully obvious i honestly can't believe you're trying to defend yourself

too fucking funny...you're not sure it means he hates women, yet you don't call darla out on her man hate rant...why are the comments relevant onceler? other than to imply he hates women which is what darla and her source said....

so typical of you to not call your side out
 
Darla said:
Another unconscious woman who was asking for it. Otherwise known as: "bitches ain't shit" Ken Buck's new campaign slogan. You're a woman voting Republican? You hate yourself. I don't care. From knowing some of you, I imagine you have good reasons. But it's your insistence on projecting that self-hate onto other woman that becomes my business.

://www.salon.com/life/broadsheet/2010/10/12/ken_buck[/url]
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the point of this thread is darla's manhate....but no one on her "side" will call her out for her bullshit

its clear darla has no respect for women, as they must hate themselves if they vote republican....
 
Yurt said:
i'm not the board's biggest hypocrite, but go ahead and spread your lies...youre the hypocrite for whining about others calling other hypocrites, yet you have no problem frequently calling others hypocrites.....its so painfully obvious i honestly can't believe you're trying to defend yourself

too fucking funny...you're not sure it means he hates women, yet you don't call darla out on her man hate rant...why are the comments relevant onceler? other than to imply he hates women which is what darla and her source said....

so typical of you to not call your side out
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I understand Darla's reaction; I just don't go quite as far w/ it. It's pretty simple, really. This is just one of countless examples of "they were asking for it" defenses for rape. Rape is a life-altering crime, and it is treated as a misdemeanor in certain cases; it's absurd.

And yeah - I stand by the hypocrisy comment. There really isn't a bigger hypocrite than you; at least Dixie, bravo, webbway & the rest make no bones about being "objective."

And, you're not exactly someone who frequently calls out "their own side"...


LOL
 
Onceler said:
I understand Darla's reaction; I just don't go quite as far w/ it. It's pretty simple, really. This is just one of countless examples of "they were asking for it" defenses for rape. Rape is a life-altering crime, and it is treated as a misdemeanor in certain cases; it's absurd.

And yeah - I stand by the hypocrisy comment. There really isn't a bigger hypocrite than you; at least Dixie, bravo, webbway & the rest make no bones about being "objective."

And, you're not exactly someone who frequently calls out "their own side"...


LOL
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Onceler if you think it'll get Yurt to stop obsessing about you, you can "call me out" for being a man-hater. It's okay.
 
now these two will act infantile and giggly with each other and run away from the topic

i have no desire to be a third wheel

carry on
 
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