Unconscious? You Know You Wanted It

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Also, if the police had not been involved in the phone call or the recording, it would have been perfectly legal and admissible in a court for that recording to come in. Colorado is a one-party state and therefore the person being called does not have to be advised that the call is being recorded. California, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania and Washington are the only two party states in the US. All other states allow you to record phone calls without informing the other party. ALSO if you are calling someone in one of these states from a one party state, it is best to observe the two party law. There is only one case that I am aware of and it is a California case. But I would err on the side of the two party consent law state. Also, the fed only requires that one party consent to the recording of the phone call unless recorded with a valid warrant allowing for a wiretap. 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2511(2)(d). One more exception is the business telephone exception, your employer is allowed to record ALL your phone calls on phones they provide without notifying you.

Wow tangent alert. Sorry, guess what I was trying to say is that the Greely police fucked the pooch on this one. Someone should have "suggested" to her that she go home and call him and record. Then he would have been fucked.

Soc- Not familiar with this particular case, but I agree the Greeley police fucked up in being a party to the recording. Not surprising knowing the quality of cops there (or at least how much the Denver DA's office and Denver PD mock them). Question from the legal side of this Soc... is there any reason he wouldn't have prosecuted other than he didn't think he could win the case?

for Darla... I am not familiar with this case but obviously Buck is a potential Senator that would be representing me. Bennet lied to me and thus he will not have my support. Do you know if Buck had other evidence in this case to get a conviction that he ignored?
 
Soc- Not familiar with this particular case, but I agree the Greeley police fucked up in being a party to the recording. Not surprising knowing the quality of cops there (or at least how much the Denver DA's office and Denver PD mock them). Question from the legal side of this Soc... is there any reason he wouldn't have prosecuted other than he didn't think he could win the case?

for Darla... I am not familiar with this case but obviously Buck is a potential Senator that would be representing me. Bennet lied to me and thus he will not have my support. Do you know if Buck had other evidence in this case to get a conviction that he ignored?
As I said earlier, I have NEVER known a prosecutor to NOT prosecute a case that was winnable. If he had a conflict I suspect he would have farmed it out to another DA's office. That is how it works everywhere. I can't believe that he would just think that passing out after having sex with someone in the past equates to consent. That viewpoint makes re-election very difficult and election to office even more difficult.
 
As I said earlier, I have NEVER known a prosecutor to NOT prosecute a case that was winnable. If he had a conflict I suspect he would have farmed it out to another DA's office. That is how it works everywhere. I can't believe that he would just think that passing out after having sex with someone in the past equates to consent. That viewpoint makes re-election very difficult and election to office even more difficult.

yeah... I posted before I read the last fifty posts... my bad.... trying to find posts on this thread relating to the OP is tough in between all of Yurts bullshit posts with Oncelor and vice versa...

As for the last part.... is there any evidence to suggest that is what he said/thought?
 
yeah... I posted before I read the last fifty posts... my bad.... trying to find posts on this thread relating to the OP is tough in between all of Yurts bullshit posts with Oncelor and vice versa...

As for the last part.... is there any evidence to suggest that is what he said/thought?

stop bringing yurt up

yours truly,

charvey
 
yeah... I posted before I read the last fifty posts... my bad.... trying to find posts on this thread relating to the OP is tough in between all of Yurts bullshit posts with Oncelor and vice versa...

As for the last part.... is there any evidence to suggest that is what he said/thought?

according to the purported transcripts between him, her, her attorney and another unidenfied person

he felt there wasn't enough evidence, she wasn't sure she even said know, their history together etc...

also, her attorney said he was going to file a motion to compel prosecution...i wonder why that never happened....1. they knew it was hopeless as the DA was right, 2. they filed and a judge agreed with the DA

either way, it doesn't look good for the alleged victim
 
Soc- Not familiar with this particular case, but I agree the Greeley police fucked up in being a party to the recording. Not surprising knowing the quality of cops there (or at least how much the Denver DA's office and Denver PD mock them). Question from the legal side of this Soc... is there any reason he wouldn't have prosecuted other than he didn't think he could win the case?

for Darla... I am not familiar with this case but obviously Buck is a potential Senator that would be representing me. Bennet lied to me and thus he will not have my support. Do you know if Buck had other evidence in this case to get a conviction that he ignored?

No dear. And I forgot he was from CO, this post wasn't directed at you. But my fellow hairy feminazis are all over it, so if there is further information that arises, I'll let you know. Obviously, the facts as they stand now, are enough that I would never vote for him, OR for a Democrat who did the same thing.

His conversation with her, makes it obvious that HE is making the moral judgement against her.
 
yeah... I posted before I read the last fifty posts... my bad.... trying to find posts on this thread relating to the OP is tough in between all of Yurts bullshit posts with Oncelor and vice versa...

As for the last part.... is there any evidence to suggest that is what he said/thought?

It's not Onceler's fault - Yurt follows him to every thread. However, I am working on Grind to ban Yurt from any of my threads.

I'm close...
 
And just so you all know, it is not common, but sometimes women cry rape when it didn't happen. Several years ago I worked on a case where an 18 year old high school senior that was accused of rape by a 17 year old class mate. Unknown to her, he recorded the entire act with a webcam from the corner of his room. He was charged and convicted of one count of child pornography (manufacturing) and will be a sexual offender that has to report for the rest of his life. She received NO PUNISHMENT for lying about the rape. She should have been prosecuted. She wasn't.


SOc, I think you need to read the tape conversation again.

The suspect is on tape admitting he raped her and he knew it was rape.

Period.

Give me a break. i know you are gettng alllll the con girl's panties wet because they love nothing more than rapists getting away, but the guy said he knew it was rape.
 
To be clear Soc, since the suspect is on tape telling her he knew what he had done was rape, your throwing some red herring on this thread about women lying about rape, is really bullshit.

IT's true the tape was not admissable, but it proves she wasn't lying.

My personal take on the conversation between Buck and the victim is that he is making a personal judgement against her.

You can differ on that, but you cannot state that the woman might have been lying about the rape. BEcause the guy said, yeah, I know I raped you.

Now that might dry up some panties around here Soc - but you are only entitled to your own opinion, not to make up facts.
 
It's not Onceler's fault - Yurt follows him to every thread. However, I am working on Grind to ban Yurt from any of my threads.

I'm close...

oh look...more bringing up yurt and not a word from charver

and i laugh at your lie...grind wouldn't give y8ou the time of day if you made such wuss plea

pity you're too scared to debate and instead only feel brave enough to insult me
 
To be clear Soc, since the suspect is on tape telling her he knew what he had done was rape, your throwing some red herring on this thread about women lying about rape, is really bullshit.

IT's true the tape was not admissable, but it proves she wasn't lying.

My personal take on the conversation between Buck and the victim is that he is making a personal judgement against her.

You can differ on that, but you cannot state that the woman might have been lying about the rape. BEcause the guy said, yeah, I know I raped you.

Now that might dry up some panties around here Soc - but you are only entitled to your own opinion, not to make up facts.

first off...he didn't make up any facts...he never claimed that happened here

second off...what aobut your facts that this means the DA hates women and your comment that i hate women? oh...those darla "facts" are ok because everyone just knows you're full of shit....got it
 
Anyway Soc, I have an adorable 10 yo boy opening presents I bought him very shortly. I'll get back with you on this tomorrow. Frankly, I am really surprised at what you wrote. But if you want to explain further, I'll get back to it tomorrow. Good night!
 
Anyway Soc, I have an adorable 10 yo boy opening presents I bought him very shortly. I'll get back with you on this tomorrow. Frankly, I am really surprised at what you wrote. But if you want to explain further, I'll get back to it tomorrow. Good night!

LOL...translation:

i'm trying very hard to piss yurt off by thinking i have him on ignore, so i'll make this worhtless post and ignore his good debate points so i can convince people i have him on ignore despite the fact i still neg rep his posts...

:)
 
LOL...translation:

i'm trying very hard to piss yurt off by thinking i have him on ignore, so i'll make this worhtless post and ignore his good debate points so i can convince people i have him on ignore despite the fact i still neg rep his posts...

:)

We know you're an obsessive freak, Yurtsie. You don't have to keep proving it.
 
according to the purported transcripts between him, her, her attorney and another unidenfied person

he felt there wasn't enough evidence, she wasn't sure she even said know, their history together etc...

also, her attorney said he was going to file a motion to compel prosecution...i wonder why that never happened....1. they knew it was hopeless as the DA was right, 2. they filed and a judge agreed with the DA

either way, it doesn't look good for the alleged victim

She is hardly an 'alleged' victim. He admitted it. Unfortunately the idiots in the Greeley police force fucked it up to where it was inadmissible. But she was a victim whether it could be proven beyond a reasonable doubt legally or not.
 
No dear. And I forgot he was from CO, this post wasn't directed at you. But my fellow hairy feminazis are all over it, so if there is further information that arises, I'll let you know. Obviously, the facts as they stand now, are enough that I would never vote for him, OR for a Democrat who did the same thing.

His conversation with her, makes it obvious that HE is making the moral judgement against her.

while his words could have been chosen better, I was under the impression he was trying to convey that he couldn't win on court because of the perception issue. There was to much ambiguity (given the tape recording being inadmissible) to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. Again, he could have stated it better, but I don't see the heinous act that you do.
 
No dear. And I forgot he was from CO, this post wasn't directed at you. But my fellow hairy feminazis are all over it, so if there is further information that arises, I'll let you know. Obviously, the facts as they stand now, are enough that I would never vote for him, OR for a Democrat who did the same thing.

His conversation with her, makes it obvious that HE is making the moral judgement against her.

while his words could have been chosen better, I was under the impression he was trying to convey that he couldn't win on court because of the perception issue. There was to much ambiguity (given the tape recording being inadmissible) to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. Again, he could have stated it better, but I don't see the heinous act that you do.

I think Bennett knows he is losing badly and the left is acting desperately to try and save the seat.
 
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