Understanding Sweden (AKA Socialism, when it's convenient for the right) in quote.
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That's a really dumb quote. It doesn't mean anything.
Here's one for you: He who believes that the State is entitled to your hard earned wealth and that he should thankful for what the State allows them to keep is a low IQ moron on steroids.
Here's one for you: He who believes that the State is entitled to your hard earned wealth and that he should thankful for what the State allows them to keep is a low IQ moron on steroids.
Here is what it all comes down to.
The Reichwing wants to have the freedom to call Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and the social welfare states of Euro-trash "socialist" whenever the fancy strikes them.
Rightwing message board posters and rightwing politicians have long and illustrious careers calling the nations of western Europe "socialist".
But when you remind them that Sweden, Germany, and Denmark are pretty decent places to live, you will witness an amazing back-flip, a remarkable retreat when they holler that Sweden is "not socialist". At that point, what the want is for the word "socialism" to be limited only to the totalitarian Leninist-Maoist states of the USSR, PRC, Cuba, and the like.
The Reichwing wants to have the freedom to call Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and the social welfare states of Euro-trash "socialist" whenever the fancy strikes them.
Rightwing message board posters and rightwing politicians have long and illustrious careers calling the nations of western Europe "socialist".
But when you remind them that Sweden, Germany, and Denmark are pretty decent places to live, you will witness an amazing back-flip, a remarkable retreat when they holler that Sweden is "not socialist". At that point, what the want is for the word "socialism" to be limited only to the totalitarian Leninist-Maoist states of the USSR, PRC, Cuba, and the like.
That asshole never paid a penny in taxes in his life. Everything he has has been given to him, he's never worked or earned a dime.
jimmymccready
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Anyone who thinks Sweden is socialist is dumb butt.
So, what you are saying is the two parties make whiny, hateful, inaccurate claims about the other? Welcome to politics where we will do anything to win. A real debate should not be based on what trash political consultants invent as the message of the day.
I hear people say "listen to both sides and make up your own mind." Anybody who really wants to know something does not listen to both sides because they are both made up of half-truths, misleading facts that don't teach anything.
Very true. Sweden prides itself on its free market economy. It got rich from capitalism from oil and gas that was then used to provide an extensive social welfare program to a relatively small population.
Lefties are desperately pimping socialism right now. Lefties want their free shit, and socialism looks to be the most likely path of getting free shit.
Reality as of 2019: Nordic "SOCIALISM" is but a myth. There is nothing socialist about nations that practice freemarket capitalism with the world's highest taxation of that capitalistic process. We call that a WELFARE STATE (just like our northern neighbors the Canucks)…..where every penny that can be milked off the hard labor of the people is then used to establish generous welfare entitlements for those who can't, will not, or simply refuse to work out their daily bread.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffer...rdic-countries-are-not-socialist/#17eefb274ad
jimmymccready
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Not quite so, Ralph, but hey, believe as you will.
Belief has nothing to do with FACTS. A fact is a fact regardless.....its the same for everyone.
You can say up is down or north is south....and believe it through some type of delusional mind warp...but that does not make it factual. That's why the majority of so called liberals attempt to argue in subjective ad hominem bullshit.....just like assholes, everyone has an opinion.I did take note that you knocked me down with all the objective, testable, provable and reproducible retorts that you presented.
jimmymccready
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Ralph, I clearly rebutted what you believe
Sweden is not socialist
Sweden is not socialist
StoneByStone
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Right......Europe is a decent place to live, that's why they are beating down our borderers here in the United States of America. How many times has the US pulled Europe's Tits from the wringer of Fascist Socialism? Socialism is nothing but a utopian pipe dream that always ends in the same manner as pointed out by our founders......totalitarianism and violent revolution. Read point number 10 of the federalist papers describing in detail why our founders invoked a social experiment where THE PEOPLE rule themselves through a republican government at all levels (Article 4 Section 4, Clause 1)
You forget the history actual of Europe. Do you know how many such violent revolutions each sovereign nation has engaged since the birth of the US? Each nation has averaged 6 violent revolutions during the same time period this nation has been governed by THE PEOPLE depending upon 1 eight page list of negative rules that place limits and scope on any Central Government authority (the US constitution). You want freedom......limit Government, not the People's natural rights. Socialism and Freedom go hand in hand like oil and water when Big Brother self professes to be the author of all human rights. Why? Socialism always invokes a special classification of peoples who think they are above the very law they legislate for the peons whom they profess to be inferior because of their lack knowledge...wealth, education....yada, yada, yada....thus you have a handful of elite who dictate to those they think inferior.
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Your very first sentence was so preposterous and untrue, that I stopped reading because I had to assume the rest of your word salad was equally untrue, covered in horseshit, and simply not worth the time for a sentient person to read.
Boss Limbaugh might not have told you this, but Danes, Norwegians, French, Swedes, Swiss, in general, are not "beating down the doors" to get to the United States.
Jade Dragon
And I'm the one that jaded you.
I think it might be the other way around. It's not like you can just leave though. You really need to speak the language, to live there with any reasonable ease.
Socialism does not exist. Capitalism does not exist either. Any county uses some socialistic programs and some capitalistic ones. These countries the right hates so badly, are just different in their mix of socialism and Capitalism. We have socialism to save the wealthy and we have Social Security for old people.
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Ever been to Sweden?
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No you're right, it's a social democracy. The Swedes have finally woke and are very fed up with being taxed so much and the huge levels of immigration. How can any country take in 500,000 migrants from some of the poorest countries in the world and not be adversely affected? That's around 5% of the population, imagine if over 1.5 million people mostly Muslims suddenly arrived in somewhere the size of Ohio in just five years. Migrants are almost all in Southern Sweden in four cities, Stockholm, Gothenburg, Uppsala and Malmö, I know some Swedes and they hate the liberals and what the naive bastards have done!!
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-26/now-even-swedes-are-questioning-the-welfare-state
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jimmymccready
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Havana Moom, please put away the Fake Alt Right Media blurbs.
Sweden, like the US, is a capitalist economy working with a social democracy of the People.
Sweden, like the US, is a capitalist economy working with a social democracy of the People.