Understanding Sweden (AKA Socialism, when it's convenient for the right) in quote.

jimmymccready said:
Havana Moom, please put away the Fake Alt Right Media blurbs.

Sweden, like the US, is a capitalist economy working with a social democracy of the People.
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I have been to Sweden several times and have Swedish friends, don't try to teach your granny to suck eggs!!
 
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Cypress said:
Your very first sentence was so preposterous and untrue, that I stopped reading because I had to assume the rest of your word salad was equally untrue, covered in horseshit, and simply not worth the time for a sentient person to read.

Boss Limbaugh might not have told you this, but Danes, Norwegians, French, Swedes, Swiss, in general, are not "beating down the doors" to get to the United States.
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Assume? That's real objective evidence there. LMAO. As always......ad hominem Bullshit from the left. Next. :rolleyes: In fact European immigration (legal) to the US is up 9% since 2016 ….I wonder why 38,144 Swedes migrated to the US in 2016.....or 33,715 Danish citizens migrated to the US, or 79,902 from Norway? Clearly they love the socialism of Europe.


Just like left wing science you are real precise with your language. ASSUME.....IN GENERAL......:bigthink:
 
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Flash said:
Very true. Sweden prides itself on its free market economy. It got rich from capitalism from oil and gas that was then used to provide an extensive social welfare program to a relatively small population.
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and they never turned into socialist nations who gave up on Capitalism huh



Your whole meme is a fucking lie
 
Flash said:
Very true. Sweden prides itself on its free market economy. It got rich from capitalism from oil and gas that was then used to provide an extensive social welfare program to a relatively small population.
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Sweden does not have vast oil and gas reserves.
You are confusing it with Norway.

The Norwegian government (aka, the norweigan people) is the largest shareholder in Statoil and Norsk Hydro - the Norwegian energy conglomerate - which is basically what rightwingers would thus call "socialism".

I actually would not mind doing what Norway does - treating our vast hydrocarbon resources as a public resource whose main purpose is to benefit the national interest first and foremost, and be treated as private capital secondarily.

Top ten happiest countries

Denmark.
Switzerland. .
Iceland.
Norway. .
Finland.
Canada.
The Netherlands.
New Zealand
Australia
Sweden

https://www.nationalgeographic.co.uk/travel-and-adventure/visit-top-10-happiest-countries-world-2016
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the anti-immigrant show their racism and their ignorance

where did I say I have not been to sweden or spent several months on a military attache duty

silly Havana Moon
 
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Flash said:
Very true. Sweden prides itself on its free market economy. It got rich from capitalism from oil and gas that was then used to provide an extensive social welfare program to a relatively small population.
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Cypress said:
Sweden does not have vast oil and gas reserves.
You are confusing it with Norway.

The Norwegian government (aka, the norweigan people) is the largest shareholder in Statoil and Norsk Hydro - the Norwegian energy conglomerate - which is basically what rightwingers would thus call "socialism".

I actually would not mind doing what Norway does - treating our vast hydrocarbon resources as a public resource whose main purpose is to benefit the national interest first and foremost, and be treated as private capital secondarily.
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Norway's oil. gas, and energy conglomerate Equinor, is owned by the people of Norway - aka, the Government of Norway - who own 67 percent of the shares in the conglomerate, and are thus the majority shareholder.
https://www.equinor.com/en/investors/our-dividend/our-shareholders.html

That is socialism by any definition that rightiwng posters have attempted to advance over the years.

So in spite of your claim that "capitalism" fueled the Norwegian welfare state, it actually stands as an example of successful socialism.

Unlike the united states, the people of Norway ensured that their vast energy resources would be controlled and largely owned by the Norwegian people through their government. And that oil, gas, and energy would be treated as a public trust first and foremost for the benefit of the people of Norway, and secondarily as a resource for-profit companies could invest in and make money off of.
 
Cypress said:
Sweden does not have vast oil and gas reserves.
You are confusing it with Norway.

The Norwegian government (aka, the norweigan people) is the largest shareholder in Statoil and Norsk Hydro - the Norwegian energy conglomerate - which is basically what rightwingers would thus call "socialism".

I actually would not mind doing what Norway does - treating our vast hydrocarbon resources as a public resource whose main purpose is to benefit the national interest first and foremost, and be treated as private capital secondarily.
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The Swedes had the opportunity to invest in Norwegian oil and gas but chose to walk away!!

http://nordic.businessinsider.com/s...ake-ever-might-not-have-been-that-bad-2016-6/
 
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Climate Crusaders Are Wrong About Norway’s Oil Divestment Proposal

Climate crusaders celebrating Norway’s proposal to divest its sovereign wealth fund from oil and gas stocks should pause before popping the carbon-neutral champagne.

In fact, the proposed divestment is limited to only include companies solely involved in oil and gas exploration, not integrated majors like BP, Exxon and Equinor, Norway’s state-owned oil giant. Norway’s proposal would affect about $40 billion in holdings out of a $1 trillion fund.

Also, Norway’s government said Friday the decision was to “reduce the vulnerability of our common wealth to a permanent oil price decline,” and not environmental considerations. Basically, the country doesn’t want to hold too many oil and gas stocks should the price tank, like it did in 2014.

Environmental activists are spinning this as a victory in their war against fossil fuels. Activists said it shattered the “illusion” that fossil fuels would continue to be used for decades, despite global warming.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/03...-wrong-about-norways-oil-divestment-proposal/
 
Cypress said:
Sweden does not have vast oil and gas reserves.
You are confusing it with Norway.

The Norwegian government (aka, the norweigan people) is the largest shareholder in Statoil and Norsk Hydro - the Norwegian energy conglomerate - which is basically what rightwingers would thus call "socialism".

I actually would not mind doing what Norway does - treating our vast hydrocarbon resources as a public resource whose main purpose is to benefit the national interest first and foremost, and be treated as private capital secondarily.
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Yes, my error. I meant Norway
 
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