Unions Take down another company!

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Hostess Brands closing for good
By Chris Isidore and James O'Toole @CNNMoney November 16, 2012: 11:53 AM ET

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NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Hostess Brands -- the maker of such iconic baked goods as Twinkies, Drake's Devil Dogs and Wonder Bread -- announced Friday that it is asking a federal bankruptcy court for permission to close its operations, blaming a strike by bakers protesting a new contract imposed on them.

The closing will result in Hostess' nearly 18,500 workers losing their jobs as the company shuts 33 bakeries and 565 distribution centers nationwide, as well as 570 outlet stores. The Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers International Union represents around 5,000 Hostess employees.

"We deeply regret the necessity of today's decision, but we do not have the financial resources to weather an extended nationwide strike," said CEO Gregory Rayburn in a statement.

Hostess will move to sell its assets to the highest bidder. That could mean new life for some of its most popular products, which could be scooped up at auction and attached to products from other companies.

A letter that Hostess sent to its network of stores that carry its product said it expects "there will be great interest in our brands." But it said it could not give a time frame for when the sales would take place and its products would be available again.

But even if those brands are bought and restarted, the Hostess workers will not get their jobs back.

"The industry has overcapacity. We're overcapacity. Our rivals are overcapacity," said Rayburn in an interview on CNBC. Asked if the shutdown decision could be reversed if the Bakers' union agreed to immediately return to work, he responded, "Too late."

While approval of the bankruptcy court is needed before the company can start selling its assets in liquidation, the company said production at all of its bakeries has ceased effective Friday, and that stores will no longer receive products from Hostess Brands after the final round of deliveries of products that were made Thursday night.

But products that are already in stores can be sold, and the outlet stores will remain open for about a week to sell the products they already have.

Related: Cake Wreck -- From icon to bust

Hostess had annual sales of about $2.5 billion. The company said it had been making 500 million Twinkies and 127 million loaves of Wonder Bread annually before Friday's shutdown.

Its bread brands, including Wonder Bread, Nature's Pride and Butternut, make the company the No. 2 bread baker in the country, according to Symphony/IRI Group. Bimbo Bakeries, maker of the Arnold and Stroehmann brands, is the No. 1 bread baker.

The company had given a 5 p.m. ET Thursday deadline for the bakers to return to work or face a shutdown of the company. The unions at Hostess could not be reached immediately for comment on the decision.

Hostess filed for bankruptcy in January, its second trip to bankruptcy court since 2004. It previously emerged from restructuring in 2009 after a four-and-a-half year process.

Related: The history of labor battles at Hostess

The company is now controlled by a group of investment firms, including hedge funds Silver Point Capital and Monarch Alternative Capital.

In September, membership of one of its major unions, the International Brotherhood of Teamsters, voted narrowly to accept a new contract with reduced wages and benefits. The Bakers' union rejected the deal, however, prompting Hostess management to secure permission from a bankruptcy court to force a new concession contract on workers.

The Teamsters union, which represents 6,700 Hostess workers, issued a statement blaming mismanagement by Hostess executives for the company's problems. But it also was critical of the decision of Bakers' union, although it did not identify the union by name.

"Unfortunately, the company's operating and financial problems were so severe that it required steep concessions from a variety of stakeholders but not all stakeholders were willing to be constructive," said Ken Hall, the Teamsters' Secretary-Treasurer. "Teamster Hostess members, based on the facts and advice from respected restructuring advisors, understood what was at stake and voted to protect all jobs at Hostess."
 
Fuck em. Good for the unions. Looks like Baracka Claus' unemployment rate is about to tick higher. But, never fear that is a good thing


How DARE those selfish workers expect to be paid a decent wage!

Don't they know the CEO and his management team have vacation homes to buy and NEED to cut worker pay by 8% or they can't get the low interest rate they wanted?

Selfish fucking workers...
 
How DARE those selfish workers expect to be paid a decent wage!

Don't they know the CEO and his management team have vacation homes to buy and NEED to cut worker pay by 8% or they can't get the low interest rate they wanted?

Selfish fucking workers...

LOL... @ 'decent wage'...

Tell us Zappa... how are they liking their wages now?

The company was in bankruptcy. trying to reorganize. The Teamsters took a cut as they knew 8% less is better than 100% less.
 
LOL... @ 'decent wage'...

Tell us Zappa... how are they liking their wages now?

The company was in bankruptcy. trying to reorganize. The Teamsters took a cut as they knew 8% less is better than 100% less.


Yawn...another selfish, anti-worker Rightie sides with management and laughs at employees tossed aside due to mismanagement.

No surprise there.

The company was in bankruptcy due to mismanagement...but as is so typical...selfish Righties believe it's the workers who are expected to make the wage concessions.
 
Yawn...another selfish, anti-worker Rightie sides with management and laughs at employees tossed aside due to mismanagement.

No surprise there.

The company was in bankruptcy due to mismanagement...but as is so typical...selfish Righties believe it's the workers who are expected to make the wage concessions.
Mismanagement is not the reason, its an over capacity market as the CEO mentioned. I suppose you could argue that the demand for the type of products they make (e.g.: twinkies and chips) is not as strong as it could be due to health concerns and it might be argued that a push for more government in healthcare accentuates that decline.

You are looking at this too emotionally with regards to "workers" versus management, do you really think if a sports team is in trouble that it would axe it's higher salaries and start winning again? Why would the same logic work in any other industry? You have to pay what the market is paying for labor of certain positions. Their management was likely on par for the industry for similar management, their bakers (being unionized) were almost certainly overpaid compared to non-unionized bakers (especially in this economy). That's not said with any meanness towards anyone, I used to mop up puke when I started at McD's so please don't stereotype others as being selfish and uncaring, it's just the reality of the situation.
 
Mismanagement is not the reason, its an over capacity market as the CEO mentioned. I suppose you could argue that the demand for the type of products they make (e.g.: twinkies and chips) is not as strong as it could be due to health concerns and it might be argued that a push for more government in healthcare accentuates that decline.

You are looking at this too emotionally with regards to "workers" versus management, do you really think if a sports team is in trouble that it would axe it's higher salaries and start winning again? Why would the same logic work in any other industry? You have to pay what the market is paying for labor of certain positions. Their management was likely on par for the industry for similar management, their bakers (being unionized) were almost certainly overpaid compared to non-unionized bakers (especially in this economy). That's not said with any meanness towards anyone, I used to mop up puke when I started at McD's so please don't stereotype others as being selfish and uncaring, it's just the reality of the situation.


And how precisely did Hostess reach it's "over capacity market"?

The never ending desire by management to make MORE MONEY.

In other words...mismanagement.

Regarding your sports analogy...that's exactly what the Florida Marlins just finished doing.

High priced free agents...gone...it was called a "salary dump".
 
And how precisely did Hostess reach it's "over capacity market"?

The never ending desire by management to make MORE MONEY.

In other words...mismanagement.
And how on earth are they going to make more money producing more (especially disposable) products that outstrip demand?
Mismanagement is possible here but certainly not greed. The desire to make more money is what pushes efficiency and higher customer satisfaction.

Regarding your sports analogy...that's exactly what the Florida Marlins just finished doing.
High priced free agents...gone...it was called a "salary dump".
Sure there are always some cases like that, but I think we can both agree that MOST high paid players are paid that high for a reason. Look you can argue that if you want (and I really hope you won't), but its very well known and accepted and if it weren't then no one would really have a problem with a salary cap would they?
 
Neocons seemed to be implying non union businesses never fail.
Does the Wall Street journal get delivered in trailer parks?
 
It is just amazing how the management of Hostess had nothing at all to do with their demise.
Nor did the competition like Little Debbie undercutting their pirces by over 1/2.
Nor did the recession and people having less money to spend on Twinkies and such.

Or even GASP! people eating healthier.
 
How DARE those selfish workers expect to be paid a decent wage!

Don't they know the CEO and his management team have vacation homes to buy and NEED to cut worker pay by 8% or they can't get the low interest rate they wanted?

Selfish fucking workers...

That wasn't what they were striking about. However, striking to obtain more than the company can afford can bankrupt a company, it happened here.
 
It is just amazing how the management of Hostess had nothing at all to do with their demise.
Nor did the competition like Little Debbie undercutting their pirces by over 1/2.
Nor did the recession and people having less money to spend on Twinkies and such.

And still the union demanded more and would not share in the pain ....... from a company that was already in the process of bankruptcy....amazing indeed.
 
If a company stops paying into my pension fund I really do not care what happens to them.

I work for anyone for my benefit.

I am like a corp in that respect. Just like they do not keep their doors open for my benefit, but for their profit.
I am not a charity org for corporations.
 
If a company stops paying into my pension fund I really do not care what happens to them.

I work for anyone for my benefit.
I am not a charity org for corporations.

And the company exists for THEIR benefit, not yours

and why should they feel any different about you, than you do about them....

they are not charitys either....

Fair enough ?
 
How DARE those selfish workers expect to be paid a decent wage!

Don't they know the CEO and his management team have vacation homes to buy and NEED to cut worker pay by 8% or they can't get the low interest rate they wanted?

Selfish fucking workers...

Now they are unemployed. Fuck em. Fuck unions and fuck you
 
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