"Unreal Crowds" Reported at Mitt Rallies in PA!

cannabis said:
why did you fail to answer my question?

how is saying that the only thing that matters are votes, make me a true rightie who puts party before country?
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The statement "the only thing that matters is votes" is an admission by you that a candidate's integrity doesn't matter.

Is he an honest candidate? Doesn't matter according to you..."all that matters is votes".

And THAT is putting party before country.
 
Romney to speak to another pumped up crowd in Pittsburgh PA on election day...30,000 more of his closest supporters, determined to win PA :awesome:
 
ZappasGuitar said:
The statement "the only thing that matters is votes" is an admission by you that a candidate's integrity doesn't matter.

Is he an honest candidate? Doesn't matter according to you..."all that matters is votes".

And THAT is putting party before country.
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not true. according to you this means you lied about what i said because you didn't ask me what i meant. it is quite clear i was referring to votes over crowds. meaning, that all that matters is votes, not the crowds.

that is hardly putting party before country you douchebag.
 
morf13 said:
Well, allow me to give you some truth since I work for Chrysler- jeep wants to sell product to China....seems like a good idea, right? But rather than build the product here that they want to sell to China, they plan to build a plant in China, and that my friend DOES cost Americans jobs! That does make Romney's claim at least partially right. This brings up another issue, all of the cars we import here, do not face any tariffs, so they send unlimited amounts to us,yet when we export, we face tariffs,which is bullshit and we need to fix it
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Well my father worked for Chrysler for many decades, so I've been following along. I never understood why they bought the garbage Jeep line anyway.

To your point.....Dixie referenced 'localizing'. Do you understand what that means? China LOVES Jeeps. It makes sense to build for the Chinese market in China, so that they can steal the technology, and build them under their own name in 5 years.

Further, if you look out your window, you probably see plenty of Jeep vehicles on the road. Those vehicles WILL NOT be built in China.

So using half truths to make it seem as if every Jeep will be built in China, while typical for Romney, still doesn't make it the accurate.


And we have plenty of Jap/German vehicles made here, for THIS market. What was that you were saying about tariffs? Do we drive Chinese vehicles?
 
It makes sense to build for the Chinese market in China
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HUH? What happened to the Big Giant Corporations sending jobs overseas? The Trade Deficit? Offshore Profits? Have we abandoned those in the case of Jeep now? Why doesn't it make sense to build Jeeps in America, with American workers, creating American jobs, and TRADE those Jeeps to China through export? The corporation wouldn't make as much profit, but I thought you people were all about that?
 
Dixie said:
HUH? What happened to the Big Giant Corporations sending jobs overseas? The Trade Deficit? Offshore Profits? Have we abandoned those in the case of Jeep now? Why doesn't it make sense to build Jeeps in America, with American workers, creating American jobs, and TRADE those Jeeps to China through export? The corporation wouldn't make as much profit, but I thought you people were all about that?
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I have no problem with that. That doesn't negate Romney's blatant lies.
 
lol...guess who Mittens invited to his PA shindig and refused to show up?

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, who was effusive in his praise of President Barack Obama when the two leaders toured damage from Hurricane Sandy last week, turned down a request by Mitt Romney to appear with him at a rally on Sunday night in Pennsylvania, The Huffington Post has learned.

Christie's decision will only add to questions among Republicans about what the governor -- who is up for reelection a year from now -- is thinking, and why he went out of his way to heap praise on the president, and then refused to appear with Romney.

The Romney rally was held at a farm in Morrisville, Pa., not more than 20 minutes from Trenton, the New Jersey capital. The physical proximity of the event to New Jersey only added to questions in the Romney campaign about why Christie chose not to come.

"You can't tell me he couldn't have gone over there for a night rally," a Romney campaign source told HuffPost.
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Althea said:
Well my father worked for Chrysler for many decades, so I've been following along. I never understood why they bought the garbage Jeep line anyway.

To your point.....Dixie referenced 'localizing'. Do you understand what that means? China LOVES Jeeps. It makes sense to build for the Chinese market in China, so that they can steal the technology, and build them under their own name in 5 years.

Further, if you look out your window, you probably see plenty of Jeep vehicles on the road. Those vehicles WILL NOT be built in China.

So using half truths to make it seem as if every Jeep will be built in China, while typical for Romney, still doesn't make it the accurate.


And we have plenty of Jap/German vehicles made here, for THIS market. What was that you were saying about tariffs? Do we drive Chinese vehicles?
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Well, to start off, no disrespect, but dont know what you are talking about. That "garbage Jeep line" as you called it, is the bread & butter and is providing the bulk of Chryler's unit sales, and its actually a very nice and popular line.

Back to the issue of building Jeeps for China. I am not going to go back and find the video ad to rewatch it,but unless it specifically says "EVERY JEEP THEY SELL IN THE WORLD WILL BE MADE IN CHINA", then it at least partially true. Once again, Chinese love Jeeps...yada yada yada,so we COULD,theoretically, EXPORT THEM TO CHINA. That would mean, BUILD THEM HERE,and hire more employees, then SHIP THEM TO CHINA. Instead, their plan is to build a plant in China and hire Chinese to build them. That DOES IN FACT COST AMERICAN JOBS,spin it anyway you like.

Now, I suspect,and am no expert in this area, but I believe that they want to build them there and sell them there because it would be cheaper than exporting them to China do to export tariffs placed on us by the other countries
 
morf13 said:
Well, to start off, no disrespect, but dont know what you are talking about. That "garbage Jeep line" as you called it, is the bread & butter and is providing the bulk of Chryler's unit sales, and its actually a very nice and popular line.

Back to the issue of building Jeeps for China. I am not going to go back and find the video ad to rewatch it,but unless it specifically says "EVERY JEEP THEY SELL IN THE WORLD WILL BE MADE IN CHINA", then it at least partially true. Once again, Chinese love Jeeps...yada yada yada,so we COULD,theoretically, EXPORT THEM TO CHINA. That would mean, BUILD THEM HERE,and hire more employees, then SHIP THEM TO CHINA. Instead, their plan is to build a plant in China and hire Chinese to build them. That DOES IN FACT COST AMERICAN JOBS,spin it anyway you like.

Now, I suspect,and am no expert in this area, but I believe that they want to build them there and sell them there because it would be cheaper than exporting them to China do to export tariffs placed on us by the other countries
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http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?46610-For-Dixie-Why-Mitt-Will-Lose-the-Election
 
morf13 said:
Well, to start off, no disrespect, but dont know what you are talking about. That "garbage Jeep line" as you called it, is the bread & butter and is providing the bulk of Chryler's unit sales, and its actually a very nice and popular line.

Back to the issue of building Jeeps for China. I am not going to go back and find the video ad to rewatch it,but unless it specifically says "EVERY JEEP THEY SELL IN THE WORLD WILL BE MADE IN CHINA", then it at least partially true. Once again, Chinese love Jeeps...yada yada yada,so we COULD,theoretically, EXPORT THEM TO CHINA. That would mean, BUILD THEM HERE,and hire more employees, then SHIP THEM TO CHINA. Instead, their plan is to build a plant in China and hire Chinese to build them. That DOES IN FACT COST AMERICAN JOBS,spin it anyway you like.

Now, I suspect,and am no expert in this area, but I believe that they want to build them there and sell them there because it would be cheaper than exporting them to China do to export tariffs placed on us by the other countries
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Jeeps are garbage. They've been plagued with problems for decades. Of course, every manufacturer has their own personal issues, but a Jeep used to be considered an off road vehicle before our gluttonous 'big is good' phase in this country. They don't hold up.

You can't dance away from Romney's claim about Jeep. He lied, and it'll cost him Ohio.
 
Never saw this video, and Romney is wrong to say ALL PRODUCTION. However, the tv ad we are discussing doesn't say ALL PRODUCTION
 
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