US Border & Immigration Policy = $hit

LadyT

LadyT

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"However, another official familiar with the Duka case history said that the family asylum claim got stuck for 16 years at INS because of a bureaucratic paperwork backlog of more than 100,000 asylum applications. The official said asylum claims routinely sat in “filing cabinets” for a decade or more. "

Absolutely ridiculous. I say no more pork projects until this mess is fixed.
 
"Absolutely ridiculous. I say no more pork projects until this mess is fixed."

Unfortunately there are too many pigs in DC to ever hope that the pork will go away.
 
How does an organization amass a backlog of 100K and still call itself and organization. That's insane. And their incompetence is costing us our safety.
 
It is the same all over our country LadyT, fussing to build new roads and such and can't afford to repair the ones we already have...
 
LadyT said:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18705586/site/newsweek/page/2/

"However, another official familiar with the Duka case history said that the family asylum claim got stuck for 16 years at INS because of a bureaucratic paperwork backlog of more than 100,000 asylum applications. The official said asylum claims routinely sat in “filing cabinets” for a decade or more. "

Absolutely ridiculous. I say no more pork projects until this mess is fixed.
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It at least amounts to 16 years in the US. Practically all asylum cases are usually rejected, even if sending them back to their home country will kill them. Also, whether or not they stay isn't based on human rights, it's based on whether or not they being killed would usually offend someone of their culture. So if you want asylum because sending you back would force you into an unwanted marriage and you'd be raped, and that's acceptable in your culture, you'd be sent back. I'd say let them hang on as long as possible.
 
Well, anyway, apparently they have to wait to here the case until they could possibly give them a green card for residence should their claims be justified. Which takes a long time. That's why there's a 100,000 person backlog.
 
I don't think a 100K backlog is at all acceptable. They should process people as soon as possible and grant them a green card unless they pose security or health threats.
 
LadyT said:
I don't think a 100K backlog is at all acceptable. They should process people as soon as possible and grant them a green card unless they pose security or health threats.
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So you don't care at all about the depressed wages for current american citizens. Why do you hate americans?
 
AssHatZombie said:
So you don't care at all about the depressed wages for current american citizens. Why do you hate americans?
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If we grant these people entry because they request asylum they would not depress wages. They would expect the same wages as everybody else, they would be legal. Amnesty is just one of the ways one can enter the nation legally. They did what they were supposed to, it is our own ICE that has not.
 
AssHatZombie said:
So you don't care at all about the depressed wages for current american citizens. Why do you hate americans?
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Depressed wages might be good for us in the long run. It might make us get off our butts and develop some backbone and grit. We have had it far too easy and are far too apathetic.
 
Damocles said:
If we grant these people entry because they request asylum they would not depress wages. They would expect the same wages as everybody else, they would be legal. Amnesty is just one of the ways one can enter the nation legally. They did what they were supposed to, it is our own ICE that has not.
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I agree 110%. Its absolutely unacceptable that they have let it come to this.
 
"How does an organization amass a backlog of 100K and still call itself and organization. That's insane. And their incompetence is costing us our safety."

That's easy to answer. Quite obviously just another example of how inefficient the government is.
 
Hummm...

Political assylum cases are complicated...it must be proven that a real threat exists...and a complete background check must be made...which is difficult in most assylum cases...what if someone that is a terrorist (not on the board) per sey...and assylum is granted and this person committs a terrorist act against the US...who would you then blame??? This all boils down to the illegal immigration issue...'amnesty' is what big business as well as some small businesses are asking for...the buck stops with them...Tom Tancredo said it well on a interview with the idiot Paula Zahn of CNN...!
 
Battleborne said:
Political assylum cases are complicated...it must be proven that a real threat exists...and a complete background check must be made...which is difficult in most assylum cases...what if someone that is a terrorist (not on the board) per sey...and assylum is granted and this person committs a terrorist act against the US...who would you then blame??? This all boils down to the illegal immigration issue...'amnesty' is what big business as well as some small businesses are asking for...the buck stops with them...Tom Tancredo said it well on a interview with the idiot Paula Zahn of CNN...!
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"not on the board"? I don't follow. Please explain that comment.

And Political asylum does not equal illegal immigration. Those poeple are trying to go through the proper channels. If you are going to grant illegals amnesty then in my opinion you have an obligation to give those 100K amnesty and permenant residency as well - without a fine. At least they tried to respect our immigration system despite how effed up it is.

Having said that I don't support amnesty one bit. It sets a bad prescident (sp?) and it doesn't not address the issue and that is a non secured border.
 
LadyT said:
"not on the board"? I don't follow. Please explain that comment.

And Political asylum does not equal illegal immigration. Those poeple are trying to go through the proper channels. If you are going to grant illegals amnesty then in my opinion you have an obligation to give those 100K amnesty and permenant residency as well - without a fine. At least they tried to respect our immigration system despite how effed up it is.

Having said that I don't support amnesty one bit. It sets a bad prescident (sp?) and it doesn't not address the issue and that is a non secured border.
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'not on the board'...means as it refers too a unknown entity!...that is exactly why political assylum applicants are so backlogged..no one in law enforcement has a proverbial 'Crystal Ball' it may look good on first impression...however a complete background check is needed...and is hard to do in most political assylum cases!


as for amnesty I agree with you and am strongly against it...if one breaks the law...too damn bad... exit stage right!
 
Battleborne said:
Because the writers of the bill do not state this is 'amnesty' albeit it is...I say BS and agree with Tancredo that this is a bad bill!
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This bill has nothing to do with Asylum cases in backlog. You are speaking of the Flake/Gutierrez Bill in Congress and the current trial balloons about a similar bill in the Senate. That is for illegal immigrants, not for those that have requested legal asylum.

Flake/Gutierrez is a bad bill, but it has little to do with a backlog of Asylum cases.
 
Battleborne said:
'not on the board'...means as it refers too a unknown entity!...that is exactly why political assylum applicants are so backlogged..no one in law enforcement has a proverbial 'Crystal Ball' it may look good on first impression...however a complete background check is needed...and is hard to do in most political assylum cases!


as for amnesty I agree with you and am strongly against it...if one breaks the law...too damn bad... exit stage right!
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I know its not easy. That's why we don't hire high school dropouts in those positions. They are supposed to be run by competent people.
 
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