Wait a minute, Amish, you want the US to adopt a collective society, in the 21st Century? And we are going to institute tithing to aid the less fortunate?
And the last half of the 19th Century provides a perfect example of what happens
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You are clearly retarded. I gave two examples of religious groups that practice charity heavily within their group. Both eschew government assistance and prefer to use group charity instead.
What I'm arguing is that when government becomes the source of charity--and welfare is a form of charity--the system becomes one of forced participation and that those having to give (pay taxes) start to figure out ways to avoid paying. On top of that, individual giving stops outside of the forced system. Europe with their next to nil charitable giving shows this trend clearly.
Yeah, for the reason I give you, and you are using them as examples?
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EXCELLENT observation! Both groups are well know for their charity! Others are the Shriners, various lodges such as the Free Masons, quite a few corporations organizing charitable contributions, foundations set up by various rich people, etc.
Who helped the people of Lahaina, HI after the fire destroyed a third of the town? It wasn't the federal government!
It was primarily the Mormons, hotel corporations providing charitable housing for displaced residents, etc. It was Hawaiians helping other Hawaiians.
And the town is being rebuilt by themselves and people are moving into their restored housing again.
Lahaina is recovering.
Who helped the people of Northern Carolina after flooding destoyed access to many towns? Private charity. Mormons and Amish showed up and literally rebuilt those towns and access to them and provided for the needs of those people suddenly isolated.
It's worse than that! Government pays for this 'charity' by making you pay by force for it (taxes, inflation, high debt). That isn't charity. It's communism.
Government isn't charity. Charity is the voluntary support of someone in need. It is completely voluntary.
Government TAKES from you by force (taxes, inflation, and high debt), takes a heavy cut for itself, and dribbles what's left to the so-called 'needy' (the lazy, the rioters and looters and those who support them, illegal aliens (which are criminals), and racism. That is NOT charity. That is communism, and enslavement. This is what Democrats call 'charity', to try to whitewash what they are and what they are doing.
Is charity more effective than government? It sure is!
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You will find that both Mormons and Amish provide charity outside their own groups as well. They do it because they want to, not because they have to.
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Yes, anchovies. He is using them as two examples...and fine example they are!
Judo-Christian...
I know you meant Judeo-Christian... but that brought me a very funny image...
Our friendly neighborhood Judo-Christian preparing for Prayer...
Onward Judo Warriors marching on to war!...
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Into the Night
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I already know you hate yourself for what you are, Tball.
Into the Night
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Probably right out of the Moonraker movie, where Bond is wandering through what looks like a monastery, but it's a training center for the British.
Heh. Don't interrupt his prayer!
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The U.S. doesn't have to adopt anything, anchovies. The Amish help out with charity because the want to, not because they have to.
Void argument fallacy. What 'example' are you referring to, anchovies?
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