US top NATO General, Austin Scott Miller; " Taliban cannot be defeated "

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After 17 years of war, top US commander in Afghanistan admits Taliban cannot be defeated

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The Afghanistan war cannot be won militarily and peace will only be achieved through a political resolution with the Taliban, the newly-appointed American general in charge of US and NATO operations has conceded.
In his first interview since taking command of NATO’s Resolute Support mission in September, Gen. Austin Scott Miller provided NBC News with a surprisingly candid assessment of the seemingly never-ending conflict, which began with the US invasion of Afghanistan in October, 2001.

https://www.rt.com/usa/442939-miller-afghanistan-war-lost-taliban/


Yeah- we've known that for years but this dude is the first one with the guts to say so.

So now what ? Abandon all the collaborators, like in Vietnam ?
 
Maybe they need the Afghan divisions diverted to face the Taliban advancing through Mexico.
 
this has been US policy for yeas. You need a negotiated settlement..it doesn't happen.
So we stay in a support role and kill terrorists
 
in Vietnam the SVA never really did step up against the NVA.

The Afghan government is in a LEAD role -not the US. we are in a support role.

You really are kidding yourself. The Afghan....er.....army is simply the Taliban in uniforms and exists to milk the US for as long as it can get away with it.

They are all Afghans. They are never going to abandon their culture in favor of the piss-weak concept of ' democracy ' that Western arms dealers tout for business.
 
You really are kidding yourself. The Afghan....er.....army is simply the Taliban in uniforms and exists to milk the US for as long as it can get away with it.
so the Taliban is fighting itself?
Look it's a bad civil war and I wish we had never gotten into nationbuilding.
But it is what it is and there is no reason to stop killing terrorists
 
so the Taliban is fighting itself?
Look it's a bad civil war and I wish we had never gotten into nationbuilding.
But it is what it is and there is no reason to stop killing terrorists

There's never been a conspiracy that Moontwat won't buy into, not a one.
 
hilarious!
What was the Taliban government there? It was basically ISIS style political salafi extremism

Nope.. its not.

The Taliban emerged as a force for social order in 1994 in the southern Afghan province of Kandahār and quickly subdued the local warlords who controlled the south of the country. By late 1996, popular support for the Taliban among Afghanistan’s southern Pashtun ethnic group, as well as assistance from conservative Islamic elements abroad, had enabled the faction to seize the capital, Kabul, and gain effective control of the country.

Resistance to the Taliban continued, however, particularly among non-Pashtun ethnic groups—namely, the Tajik, the Uzbek, and the Ḥazāra—in the north, west, and central parts of the country, who saw the power of the predominantly Pashtun Taliban as a continuation of the traditional Pashtun hegemony of the country. By 2001 the Taliban controlled all but a small section of northern Afghanistan.

World opinion, however, largely disapproved of the Taliban’s social policies—including the near-total exclusion of women from public life (including employment and education), the systematic destruction of non-Islamic artistic relics (as occurred in the town of Bamiyan), and the implementation of harsh criminal punishments—and only a few countries recognized the regime. More significant was the fact that the Taliban allowed Afghanistan to be a haven for Islamic militants from throughout the world, including an exiled Saudi Arabian, Osama bin Laden, who, as leader of al-Qaeda, stood accused of organizing numerous terrorist attacks against American interests.

The Taliban’s refusal to extradite bin Laden to the United States following the attacks on the World Trade Center in New York City and the Pentagon outside Washington, D.C., on September 11, 2001, prompted a military confrontation with the United States and allied powers (see September 11 attacks; Afghanistan War). The Taliban was subsequently driven from power.

Taliban insurgency against U.S. and NATO forces continued in the years following the Taliban’s ouster. The Taliban funded its efforts in large part through a thriving opium trade, which reached record levels several years after the fall of the Taliban. Although expelled from Kandahār by the invasion, Taliban leader Mullah Mohammad Omar reportedly continued to direct the insurgency from an unknown location; he was thought by some to be in Pakistan, although the Taliban denied that.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Taliban
 
Because you'd financed it to destroy the previous government to get at the USSR, obviously.
oh you are talking mujahideen -yes the Taliban are their kids.
Although the way I understand it they became radicalized by Pakistani madrassas funded by KSA
 
oh you are talking mujahideen -yes the Taliban are their kids.
Although the way I understand it they became radicalized by Pakistani madrassas funded by KSA

No, they were radicalised by American arms and money poured out to support insane reaction, clearly.
 
No, they were radicalised by American arms and money poured out to support insane reaction, clearly.
don't think so.
Arms and money would not radicalize; they were nationalist resistance - common througoht Afghan history.

But the TTP Taliban were influenced by radical madrassas and became leadership of Afghani Taliban
 
don't think so.
Arms and money would not radicalize; they were nationalist resistance - common througoht Afghan history.

But the TTP Taliban were influenced by radical madrassas and became leadership of Afghani Taliban

No, I'm afraid you are wrong. They were a fanatical Muslim resistance, recruited as such.
 
hilarious!
What was the Taliban government there? It was basically ISIS style political salafi extremism

Yes but this is what libs like Iolo like. They want a total govt control style like the Taliban set up. They want to listen to their muslim masters and have them do as told.
 
don't think so.
Arms and money would not radicalize; they were nationalist resistance - common througoht Afghan history.

But the TTP Taliban were influenced by radical madrassas and became leadership of Afghani Taliban

Afghanistan has been in turmoil since the communists overthrew the monarchy in 1974... The Soviets eventually came to their rescue..

The Taliban is Pashtun..who claim to be descended from the tribe of Benjamin.. Their beliefs are an anathma to the Saudis.
 
No, I'm afraid you are wrong. They were a fanatical Muslim resistance, recruited as such.
that was the mujahideen. agreed. I'm talking about the Taliban -where did they come from?
I'm fairly sure their leadership came from Pakistan, or influenced by radical madrassas..not sure exactly
 
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