USA Security Council abstention condemns neoZionism as illegal

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False.

It is becoming illegal for Israelis (Jews or not) to steal the property of those living in West Bank.

And, apartheid in Israel is a separate issue.

Again, for those at the back, the 1967 'border' is in fact an armistice line. This means it is subject to negotiation. For Abbas to demand that Israel returns to that border is never going to happen and the UN, supported as it is by so many hostile Arab nations, is not helping in the least.

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[WillReadmore]

Again, for those at the back, the 1967 'border' is in fact an armistice line. This means it is subject to negotiation. For Abbas to demand that Israel returns to that border is never going to happen and the UN, supported as it is by so many hostile Arab nations, is not helping in the least.

For you, who is CLEARLY in the back, it really doesn't matter where some border exists.

It is STILL illegal to steal people's property ... even if you are an Israeli!!

Surely you didn't actually think that ethnic cleansing is legal, did you?

 

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For you, who is CLEARLY in the back, it really doesn't matter where some border exists.

It is STILL illegal to steal people's property ... even if you are an Israeli!!

Surely you didn't actually think that ethnic cleansing is legal, did you?

So what do you think Lebanon, Jordan and Kuwait did with Palestinians? What about the Jewish Nakba where around 800,000 Jews were evicted from Arab countries?


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[WillReadmore]

So what do you think Lebanon, Jordan and Kuwait did with Palestinians? What about the Jewish Nakba where around 800,000 Jews were evicted from Arab countries?


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If you are expecting me to accept a massive criminal act on the grounds that there was some OTHER massive criminal act, you are going to be very disappointed.

In NO WAY do I think one Nakba should be paid off by allowing the victims to carry out another Nakba on someone else.

Crime doesn't work that way.

With crime, we work to STOP it, not facilitate it.

 

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If you are expecting me to accept a massive criminal act on the grounds that there was some OTHER massive criminal act, you are going to be very disappointed.

In NO WAY do I think one Nakba should be paid off by allowing the victims to carry out another Nakba on someone else.

Crime doesn't work that way.

With crime, we work to STOP it, not facilitate it.

No mate, I am trying to educate you. Why should Israel negotiate with the Palestinians when they can't even agree amongst themselves? The Palestinian Authority and Hamas hate each other almost as much as they hate Israel. Holy fuck, Abbas doesn't even have a mandate as the PA hasn't held elections for 10 years. They are a rabble quite frankly, even if they agreed a deal I very much doubt that they could deliver it anyway.

Israel is a relative oasis of stability compared to the cluster fuck that is Iraq, Syria, Libya and Egypt. So it is pretty understandable that the Israelis are terrified that the same thing could happen to them.

I bet you were one of those demanding that Obama moved all the military out of Iraq, well we all know what happened then!!
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False.

It is becoming illegal for Israelis (Jews or not) to steal the property of those living in West Bank.

And, apartheid in Israel is a separate issue.

Are you saying that Arab Israelis don't have the full rights of citizenship?

Also, whose land is being stolen in the West Bank?

 

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For you, who is CLEARLY in the back, it really doesn't matter where some border exists.

That's correct. All borders are subject to negotiation by the concerned parties. However, no border can be imposed upon another state. International law clearly states- as it did again in last week's Resolution 2334- that gaining territory by means of force in inadmissible. It's a bedrock of United Nations membership. The UN is the safeguard of ALL borders which it recognizes and it voted recently, by 138 votes to 9, to recognize Palestine on the pre-1967 borders. These are the borders to which Israel is required to withdraw to following Resolution 242 of 1967. This fact was repeated in the preamble to last week's Resolution 2334 when it recalled Resolution 242 along with several others which clearly state the illegality of Israel's occupation.

Zionists hoping for a Greater Israel have no chance whatsoever of obtaining even one square centimetre of Palestine by illegal means.

Of course, UN recognition of Palestine on the pre-1967 borders does not, as far as this observer can determine, implicitly recognise Israel's borders at the same locations. I say this because many knowledgeable international legal scholars believe that Israel's borders are those described by UNGAR Resolution 181 of 1947, the Partition Resolution which arose out of British incompetence in managing the ass-end of Empire. Indeed, no other legal description of Israel's borders exists- so Israel would be looking a gift horse in the mouth if it did not accept a Palestinian state on the pre-1967 borders as such borders represent a huge extra slice of Palestine than was intended by the legal authorities in 1947. This most certainly represents a stick with which to beat back neoZionist imperialism


Your voice here is very welcome, incidentally - and it stands out as truth in stark contrast to the swill of deceit served up by supporters of neoZionist crime who repeatedly scrape the barrel of degenerate rhetoric in their search for false information in order to shore up the decades of unchallenged lies with which they have become brainwashed prior to the onset of the Internet.
Good for you.

 

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That's correct. All borders are subject to negotiation by the concerned parties. However, no border can be imposed upon another state. International law clearly states- as it did again in last week's Resolution 2334- that gaining territory by means of force in inadmissible. It's a bedrock of United Nations membership. The UN is the safeguard of ALL borders which it recognizes and it voted recently, by 138 votes to 9, to recognize Palestine on the pre-1967 borders. These are the borders to which Israel is required to withdraw to following Resolution 242 of 1967. This fact was repeated in the preamble to last week's Resolution 2334 when it recalled Resolution 242 along with several others which clearly state the illegality of Israel's occupation.

Zionists hoping for a Greater Israel have no chance whatsoever of obtaining even one square centimetre of Palestine by illegal means.

Of course, UN recognition of Palestine on the pre-1967 borders does not, as far as this observer can determine, implicitly recognise Israel's borders at the same locations. I say this because many knowledgeable international legal scholars believe that Israel's borders are those described by UNGAR Resolution 181 of 1947, the Partition Resolution which arose out of British incompetence in managing the ass-end of Empire. Indeed, no other legal description of Israel's borders exists- so Israel would be looking a gift horse in the mouth if it did not accept a Palestinian state on the pre-1967 borders as such borders represent a huge extra slice of Palestine than was intended by the legal authorities in 1947. This most certainly represents a stick with which to beat back neoZionist imperialism


Your voice here is very welcome, incidentally - and it stands out as truth in stark contrast to the swill of deceit served up by supporters of neoZionist crime who repeatedly scrape the barrel of degenerate rhetoric in their search for false information in order to shore up the decades of unchallenged lies with which they have become brainwashed prior to the onset of the Internet.
Good for you.

You are so full of shit Moonbat, there is no such thing as the pre-1967 border, it is a demarcation line and represented the reality when hostilities ended. Israel has given back 94% of lands it occupied but zealots like you will never recognise that fact. The 1967 line is not defensible and you can rabbit on till kingdom come but no Israeli government would ever go back to that, that's a fact even a cretin like you ought to understand.

Your precious UN is just effing useless, they just sat on their hands when the Hutus were slaughtering nearly a million Tutsis, same story in Libya when Ghaddafi was deposed. So why do you think that anybody gives a shit about an organisation that has been hijacked by some of the most despotic countries on the planet.

My son will be going to Tel Aviv soon to visit a team there doing development work for Cisco. He has to go to Cambridge Mass first so he's going to be busy this year. Maybe he can give them your love?

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Are you saying that Arab Israelis don't have the full rights of citizenship?

Also, whose land is being stolen in the West Bank?

He's just another Ill informed snowflake, looks like Rana has just crowned herself queen of the snowflakes so she has some subjects at least.

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[moon]

2016 'deadliest year' for West Bank children in decade

Israeli forces killed 32 Palestinian children in West Bank and East Jerusalem in 2016, the highest number in 10 years.

http://www.aljazeera.com/topics/regions/middleeast.html

Quite obviously, simply condemning Israel for orchestrating illegal occupation is insufficient. Action must be taken to prevent it from further state-sponsored murder of children and political opposition.

 

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Quite obviously, simply condemning Israel for orchestrating illegal occupation is insufficient. Action must be taken to prevent it from further state-sponsored murder of children and political opposition.

I suppose we ought to be grateful that you only come on a couple of times a day now. Gone are the days when you logged on in the morning and put in an eight hour day at least, has Hamas stopped paying you? Are you doing this pro bono now?

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As well as murdering Palestinian children, women and menfolk with relative impunity Israel also imprisons them without charge or legal representation. Torture accusations are common.

Info from Israeli peace group B’Tselem;

http://www.btselem.org/administrative_detention/statistics

Statistics on Administrative Detention

Published: 1 Jan 2011
Updated: 12 Sep 2016

At the end of April 2016, 692 Palestinians - including 2 women and 13 minors - were held in administrative detention in Israel Prison Service (IPS) facilities.

The IPS has not forwarded data to B’Tselem since May 2016, despite repeated requests.

I don't believe that self-appointed censors of Israeli atrocities are too pleased with the current shifts in online information.

I post this for the benefit of squirming pro-Zionists and those shocked that an Israeli court should find a member of the IOF guilty of the manslaughter of an unconscious Palestinian by way of shooting him through the head .

 

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As well as murdering Palestinian children, women and menfolk with relative impunity Israel also imprisons them without charge or legal representation. Torture accusations are common.

Info from Israeli peace group B’Tselem;



I don't believe that self-appointed censors of Israeli atrocities are too pleased with the current shifts in online information.

I post this for the benefit of squirming pro-Zionists and those shocked that an Israeli court should find a member of the IOF guilty of the manslaughter of an unconscious Palestinian by way of shooting him through the head .

Hamas of course believe in summary justice, don't they?

 

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Netanyahu backs calls for convicted Israeli soldier to be pardoned

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...alestinian-elor-azaria-abdel-fattah-al-sharif

This is the neoZionist fascist who is currently under investigation by the police for accepting gifts and bribes.

They're all at it- Zionists and their supporters.
Zionism is criminal by default.

Resolution 2334 recognizes that this is what Zionism has become-- an open sewer of criminality which is protected by criminals higher up the food chain.

 

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This is the neoZionist fascist who is currently under investigation by the police for accepting gifts and bribes.

They're all at it- Zionists and their supporters.
Zionism is criminal by default.

Resolution 2334 recognizes that this is what Zionism has become-- an open sewer of criminality which is protected by criminals higher up the food chain.

What a slimy cunt you are, that 'innocent' Palestinian stabbed a soldier. I wonder why you neglected to mention that Hamas humper!

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[WillReadmore]

Are you saying that Arab Israelis don't have the full rights of citizenship?

Also, whose land is being stolen in the West Bank?

Yes.

For example, Arab citizens of Israel are not free to choose where they live. There are laws restricting the percent of Arabs. There are also laws preventing Arab citizens of Israel who are living IN Israel from occupying the property they left due to war - which is counter to international law.

Also, remember that Netanyahu backed a movement to give Jews preferential treatment by the courts. I'm not sure where that movement is today, but it merely codified what is standard practice.

Israeli citizens can acquire the land Israel steals from Palestinians who live on it, farm it, etc. Do you think Arab citizens of Israel are given that option?

 

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What a slimy cunt you are, that 'innocent' Palestinian stabbed a soldier. I wonder why you neglected to mention that Hamas humper!

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Would you like to explain your complaint?

I'm not sure I see any way to support either your disgusting ad hom or the illogical nonsense coming after.

 

[WillReadmore]

You are so full of shit Moonbat, there is no such thing as the pre-1967 border, it is a demarcation line and represented the reality when hostilities ended. Israel has given back 94% of lands it occupied but zealots like you will never recognise that fact. The 1967 line is not defensible and you can rabbit on till kingdom come but no Israeli government would ever go back to that, that's a fact even a cretin like you ought to understand.

Your precious UN is just effing useless, they just sat on their hands when the Hutus were slaughtering nearly a million Tutsis, same story in Libya when Ghaddafi was deposed. So why do you think that anybody gives a shit about an organisation that has been hijacked by some of the most despotic countries on the planet.

My son will be going to Tel Aviv soon to visit a team there doing development work for Cisco. He has to go to Cambridge Mass first so he's going to be busy this year. Maybe he can give them your love?

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Under international law nations are not allowed to acquire land by conquest. Thus, your idea of giving land back is not sufficient - even if it happened to be true, which you would need to cite something in support.

Also, land owned by civilians belongs to those civilians REGARDLESS of where international boundaries are drawn. If a line is redrawn, those finding themselves in a new country simply become citizens of that country. There is NO justification for simply stealing land from civilians. it is a crime. Period.

Your stuff about the UN is off topic. And, I really don't see your family activities as affecting this issue.

 

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Would you like to explain your complaint?

I'm not sure I see any way to support either your disgusting ad hom or the illogical nonsense coming after.

I wasn't talking to you!

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Under international law nations are not allowed to acquire land by conquest. Thus, your idea of giving land back is not sufficient - even if it happened to be true, which you would need to cite something in support.

Also, land owned by civilians belongs to those civilians REGARDLESS of where international boundaries are drawn. If a line is redrawn, those finding themselves in a new country simply become citizens of that country. There is NO justification for simply stealing land from civilians. it is a crime. Period.

Your stuff about the UN is off topic. And, I really don't see your family activities as affecting this issue.

So maybe you might care to inform China that its occupation of Tibet is illegal. How about Turkey in North Cyprus, India in Kashmir, Russia in Kaliningrad, South Ossetia, Abkhazia and Crimea? Seems to me that only Israel is expected to confirm to international law whilst all the others get away with it.

The stuff about my son was intended to piss off Moonbat and is nothing to do with you. So kindly keep out of it, there's a good chap!

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