Virgin Mary statue stirs up debate in secular Uruguay

CFM said:
Mary and Joseph married. Your mother and whomever your baby daddy happens to be among the thousand potential customers of hers weren't.
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A religion based on the word of a thirteen year old Jewish minx who lied about her sex life, is certainly worth defending.
 
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CFM said:
Mary and Joseph married. Your mother and whomever your baby daddy happens to be among the thousand potential customers of hers weren't.
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After the teenage slut had been fucking who knows who?

Her baby daddy is unknown.
 
Legion Troll said:
What's surprising is that the M E N bought her story instead of stoning her to death, the way the Bible commands.

M E N are such suckers.
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Why do you not demonstrate by Book, Chapter and Verse where "wink, wink" THE BIBLE commands someone be put to death by Stoning, under the current covenant with God, the New Testament Covenant of Christ Jesus?

Why do "ignorant" people rush to judge in ignorance? A few "Biblical Truths" for you. There have been several "Covenants/Contracts" between God and Man in the History contained in the Bible. 1. The Noahic 2. The Abrahamic 3. The Mosaic and lastly 4. The New Testament Covenant of Christ Jesus.

You are attempting to present some "archaic" Law that existed under one of the previous covenants....a covenant that existed only between God and the nation of Biblical Israel...that included no binding laws to any gentile.... a nation other than Hebrew, that most certainly does not apply to any modern form of Catholicism or to the Covenant between Jesus/God and man.

Example: God did note make a covenant that enforced any previous generation when the Law of Moses went into effect, that covenant was for the people of Israel, at that time in history, not for any others on earth, "And Moses called all of Israel, and said to them, Hear, oh Israel, the statues and judgments which I speak in your hearing today (whan? today at that time period, not yesterday, not tomorrow, but today for the peoples of Israel to hear....no other nation on earth was bound by these statues and judgments...only Biblical Israel).....

that YOU (Israel) my learn and obey them. The Lord our God made a covenant with us in Horeb (the location of the covenant presentation).

THE LORD DID NOT MAKE THIS COVENANT WITH OUR FATHERS, BUT WITH US, THOSE WHO ARE HERE TODAY, ALL OF US WHO ARE ALIVE." Deuteronomy 5:1-3.

Pretty clear and unambiguous...such statues did not apply to any gentile in the future, nor did they apply to those living under the New Testament Covenant of Christ. Why? Because The Christ nailed the previous covenant to His cross and ushered in a New and Final Covenant between God and Man...bringing mankind into the last days.

The history is clear in the Bible concerning Covenants and Statues/Judgments, God foretold in prophecy that the Old Testament Covenant of Moses, the one preceding the New Testament Covenant would vanish and be replaced with a New Covenant, "Behold the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah, NOT ACCORDING TO THE COVENANT THAT I MADE WITH THEIR FATHERS IN THE DAY I TOOK THEM BY THE HAND AND LED THEM OUT OF THE LAND OF EGYPT. MY COVENANT THEY BROKE, THOUGH I WAS HUSBAND TO THEM (like being married to Israel, taking care of and cultivating them in the ways of God), SAYS THE LORD". -- Jer. 31-32

Just as the New Testament point out, the Old was done away with, "...for on the one hand there is an annulling (divorce of a marriage contract as pointed out in Jer.) of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness, for the Law (the old law) made nothing perfect....on the other hand there is a better hope...(i.e., in the New Testament Covenant). -- Heb. 7:18-19. Was God imperfect in making the covenant? Of course not the imperfection was due to mankind and his sinful ways in not being able to live a sin free life....as pointed out in Jer. THEY CONTINUALLY BROKE GOD'S COMMANDMENTS. So it was replaced with a more spiritual covenant between God and Man, where one man who lived a perfect sin free life could and did take the sins of the world upon his shoulders in becoming the perfect sacrificial lamb of God. Christ Jesus.

Jesus became the "mediator" of a better covenant (Heb. 8:6)

And again it is pointed out that during the days of Jesus on earth the old law was slowly becoming obsolete, "In that He says, A NEW COVENANT. He has made the 1st obsolete. Now....obsolete and growing old...it is ready to vanish away." -- Heb. 8:13

Thus, in the 1st century they (the people who accepted Jesus' doctrine" YOU are now DEAD to the Old Law THROUGH THE BODY OF CHRIST.....THAT YOU MAY BE MARRIED TO ANOTHER (NEW COVENANT).....-- Rom. 7:4-7

There are some ETERNAL STATUES of GOD (like the 10 commandments) that were carried forth into the New Covenant...but things such as animal sacrifices, physical circumcision, and other archaic laws were not carried forth into the New Contract -- Heb. 10:1-10, Col. 2:11-17 Thus, old law and its archaic method were NAILED TO THE CROSS OF CHRIST.

So....stoning clearly was not an option unless you wanted to be tried for MURDER.
 
Ralph said:
Why do you not demonstrate by Book, Chapter and Verse where "wink, wink" THE BIBLE commands someone be put to death by Stoning, under the current covenant with God, the New Testament Covenant of Christ Jesus?
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The current covenant with god is the Old Testament.

Jesus was not the Messiah because he was entirely different from what was prophesied. He was not the scion of David because Joseph wasn't his father. He did not die of natural causes at an old age. He did not have a son. There are many other reasons.

But let's pretend none of that is true and go the other way about it, shall we?

This notion of Jesus "fulfilling the law" is intrinsically nonsense. Jesus himself said he came not to change the law but to "fulfill" it.

If the speed limit is 55mph and I travel at 55mph, then I have fulfilled the law without changing it.

It still doesn't matter, because while I'm not the Messiah, neither was Jesus.
 
Stelakh said:
The current covenant with god is the Old Testament.

Jesus was not the Messiah because he was entirely different from what was prophesied. He was not the scion of David because Joseph wasn't his father. He did not die of natural causes at an old age. He did not have a son. There are many other reasons.

But let's pretend none of that is true and go the other way about it, shall we?

This notion of Jesus "fulfilling the law" is intrinsically nonsense. Jesus himself said he came not to change the law but to "fulfill" it.

If the speed limit is 55mph and I travel at 55mph, then I have fulfilled the law without changing it.

It still doesn't matter, because while I'm not the Messiah, neither was Jesus.
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Show me in the scriptures where it proves Jesus was not the son of God.
 
Leonthecat said:
He wasn't the son of God because no such being exists.
Only Mary knew who his daddy was and she made up the story you buy today.
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Because you were right there, documenting the events as they unfolded before your very eyes.

Go wake up fecal troll and give each other a bath.
 
Rana said:
He was the son of God, but so was every Israelite male. The Jewish context doesn't mean more than human. It was used metaphorically, but you know this, and those whom you address don't often explore what they are taught in their church.
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I love your confidence, but now it's time to spell it out using the scriptures. Can you do that for me, or do you want to retract your comments?
 
Granule said:
I love your confidence, but now it's time to spell it all out using the scriptures.
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Granny the Christian is gonna preach it. Stand back folks, I smell some magical incantations from the magic book the Buy-Bull coming on.
Preach it racist!
LOL
 
Imagine: No Religion :) Then no one would have to concern themselves with something so trivial as a communist populated government attempting to ban Christian symbols of faith. Now that would be a denial of the facts with more liberals living in the la, la land between their ears, Imagining their hope to be reality again.

According to the FACTS there over 2.18 BILLION Christians around the world, that's nearly 1/3 of the world's population, making Christians the largest group of religious people on earth...sounds like the communists have their hands full attempting to convince people that Christianity is dying...especially here in the US where some 247 Million in 2011 counted themselves as CHRISTIAN.. What is the total population here in the US again? 324 Million last count? That's over 2/3 of the US POPULATION that still claim to be Christian and this nation is still A REPUBLIC that allows "the majority" to govern...as I said, wishful thinking with just a little propaganda tossed in......

www.pewforum.org/2011/12/19/global-christianity-exec/

If you want to witness a vanishing political system...simply observe the so called Socialist/Communist movement. Thanks to men like "Mr. Reagan" The world has seen a decline in social communism...with those that are claiming to be Socialist....attempting to distance themselves while claiming that Socialism and Communism aren't in the least related. RIGHT....err...LEFT.

The only way that socialism can exist here in the US is to make Congress, useless and legislate from the socialist bench with non-elected civil servants that have taken an oath to protect the Constitution...now that's a laugh. Ya know what really scares the atheistic socialists beside Christianity and its symbolism? A simple 8 page document written over 230 years at an 8th grade level that has kept this nation in tact over the same period of time while our (wink,wink) good neighbors in Europe...practicing COMMUNIST LITE...er....Socialism and its quest for Social Justice has averaged 6 national revolutions per nation during this time line....that 8 page document? Of course its the United States Constitution and its following amendments to include the Bill of Rights that make it damn near impossible for the communists to take away our Religion, Guns, Industries, Health Care and Banks FROM THE BENCH.

So now the socialist "in vogue" tactic is to issue one Illegal Executive Order after another...giving the system the "Bums" rush. But more often than not the Socialist still appear to have pie in their faces in spite of the dumb downed group of American's coming of age that have been indoctrinated to accept socialism.
 
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Leonthecat said:
Granny the Christian is gonna preach it. Stand back folks, I smell some magical incantations from the magic book the Buy-Bull coming on.
Preach it racist!
LOL
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Those are ingredients for a seance, you drooling pervert.

Say, I didn't know you were into Satanism, Pee'don. How long have you been rolling with the goats?
 
Granule said:
Those are ingredients for a seance, you drooling pervert.

Say, I didn't know you were into Satanism, Pee'don. How long have you been rolling with the goats?
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Sounds more like a RE-VIV-AL MEETIN' to me, preacher!
I don't buy anything supernatural or magical.
That's more than you can say Gullible Granny.
Had any snakes talk to you lately or had sex with any virgin moms? Drink the blood of a zombie, or eat his flesh?
Your Buy-Bull is full of that kind of magical crap, Gullible Granny.

Lol
 
Legion Troll said:
He's a' gettin' RAPTURED soon, Brother Leon!


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Lol

 
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