Was 2020 election stolen or not?

/MSG/ said:
You didn't go to D.C. in 2016 and you say that was stolen. Who did you kill over that? What acts of terror did you conspire to commit in regards to that. You can't go back and edit your posts either, I can see those.
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Hillary Clinton conceded the day after the election and did not pursuse to overturn the election by filling dozens of frivolous lawsuits.

President Obama went on national TV and declared the election decided, and no matter how disappointed anyone was, the country would survive.

Your obese Orange God wailed like a Banshee that dark forces had stolen the election from him, and if the election were not overturned in his favor, the very fate of the Republic was imperiled and at the gravest risk.

So your flaccid attempt to draw an analogy in defense of your Orange God does not even remotely pass the laugh test.
 
Truth Detector said:
LyingVagina426 continues to self flagellate and believe in the Biden miracle.
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It's not a miracle, it's your fuckup.

If you hadn't turned COVID into a pandemic, there would not have been record voter turnout thanks to mail voting.

You are to blame for Trump losing last year, and you will be to blame for the GOP losing next year.
 
LV426 said:
Prove that you're a phony?
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^THIS, is why you cannot argue, or debate, with a lying, mentally ill moron like LyingVagina426. :palm:

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Cypress said:
Hillary Clinton conceded the day after the election and did not pursuse to overturn the election by filling dozens of frivolous lawsuits.

President Obama went on national TV and declared the election decided, and no matter how disappointed anyone was, the country would survive.

Your obese Orange God wailed like a Banshee that dark forces had stolen the election from him, and if the election were not overturned in his favor, the very fate of the Republic was imperiled and at the gravest risk.

So your flaccid attempt to draw an analogy in defense of your Orange God does not even remotely pass the laugh test.
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List of Democrats who called Trump 'illegitimate'

Jan. 13, 2017. “I don't see this president-elect as a legitimate president,” Rep. John Lewis said on “Meet the Press” while explaining why he would not attend Trump’s inauguration. “I think the Russians participated in helping this man get elected. And they helped destroy the candidacy of Hillary Clinton.”

Jan. 16, 2017. “Yes, I will respect the constitutional prerogatives of the presidency,” added Rep. Don Beyer, a Virginia Democrat. “But I will not be part of normalizing or legitimizing a man whose election may well have depended on the malicious foreign interference of Russia’s leaders.”

Jan. 18, 2017. Two days later, as the number of House Democrats boycotting the inauguration ballooned, Illinois Rep. Jan Schakowsky added her name to the list “in protest of a president who used bigotry, fear, and lies to win an election that was tainted by foreign interference and voter suppression and who intends to betray the interests of the ordinary working people who put him in office.”

Jan. 20, 2017. A headline in the Washington Post informed readers that “the campaign to impeach President Trump has begun.” Actually, Trump wasn’t yet president when Ron Fein, an activist lawyer heading the effort, told the newspaper, “If we were to wait for all the ill effects that could come from this, too much damage to our democracy would occur.”

Feb. 19, 2017. The first Presidents Day weekend of Trump’s White House tenure was celebrated by tens of thousands of progressives in cities across the country who marched in “Not My President Day” rallies. In Georgia, Trump’s impeachment was one of the demands of the organizers. In New York, those attending the protests included Chelsea Clinton and Mayor Bill de Blasio. In San Francisco, the event was organized by the Young Democrats club. Although most of the organizers took pains to point out that they weren’t questioning the legitimacy of the Electoral College or the results of the 2016 election, thousands of marchers carried signs and gave interviews doing exactly that.

April 17, 2018. Marquette University professor Julia Azari, writing in Vox, explained to her readers that “the challenge of Trump’s presidency is legitimacy, not power.”

July 17, 2018. Writing for The Atlantic, David Frum wrote about Trump’s “crisis of legitimacy.”

July 28, 2018. “We need to talk about a forbidden subject: the legitimacy of the current president.” So began cultural critic Virginia Heffernan’s Los Angeles Times column. “There’s been a code of silence around President Donald Trump’s shady victory in 2016,” she continued.

Feb. 19, 2019. Fired FBI official Andrew McCabe told CNN’s Anderson Cooper that he thought it “possible” that Trump is a “Russian asset.” “I completely agree with the way Andy characterized it, you know, that it is a possibility,” former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said on CNN the following night. Former CIA director John Brennan, among the most personally vitriolic Trump critics, said seven months earlier that Trump’s words at a joint press conference with Russian President Vladimir Putin were “nothing short of treasonous.”

May 14, 2019. At a Biden campaign event in Nashua, N.H., a long-winded woman who described herself as having “Trump derangement syndrome” called Trump an “illegitimate president” because he won the 2016 election by nearly 80,000 votes in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan -- aided, she said, by the Kremlin.

“I think all the talk about impeachment and what the Democrats should do, that’s fine, it’s theoretical at this point,” the woman told the former vice president. “Let them investigate, let them subpoena, let them go to the Supreme Court, he’s illegitimate.” In response, Biden quipped, “Would you be my vice presidential candidate?” Turning to the rest of the crowd, Biden added, “Folks, look, I absolutely agree.”

June 28, 2019. Six weeks later, it was Jimmy Carter’s turn. “There’s no doubt that the Russians did interfere in the election, and I think the interference, although not yet quantified, if fully investigated would show that Trump didn’t actually win the election in 2016,” Carter said during a panel discussion at a conference in Leesburg, Va. “He lost the election, and he was put into office because the Russians interfered on his behalf.”

Pressed by moderator Jon Meacham on whether he considers Trump to be “an illegitimate president,” Carter replied: “Based on what I just said, which I can’t retract.”

Sept. 29, 2019. Hillary Clinton said in a “CBS Sunday Morning” interview: “He knows he’s an illegitimate president. I believe he understands that the many varying tactics they used, from voter suppression and voter purging to hacking to the false stories -- he knows that -- there were just a bunch of different reasons why the election turned out like it did.”
https://www.wnd.com/2020/12/list-democrats-called-trump-illegitimate/
 
Cypress said:
Your obese Orange God wailed like a Banshee that dark forces had stolen the election from him, and if the election were not overturned in his favor, the very fate of the Republic was imperiled and at the gravest risk.
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Exactly.

That is exactly what they were saying.

That this was the greatest and gravest attack to have ever happened to the country...which raised the stakes for everything and made it life-or-death.

So to see those same people demur now when it comes to 1/6 is pathetic.

If you frame this as the greatest attack on America ever, then the expectation is that you will follow through.
 
Truth Detector said:
Irony. Try to be less pathological and stupid. :palm:

List of Democrats who called Trump 'illegitimate'

Jan. 13, 2017. “I don't see this president-elect as a legitimate president,” Rep. John Lewis said on “Meet the Press” while explaining why he would not attend Trump’s inauguration. “I think the Russians participated in helping this man get elected. And they helped destroy the candidacy of Hillary Clinton.”

Jan. 16, 2017. “Yes, I will respect the constitutional prerogatives of the presidency,” added Rep. Don Beyer, a Virginia Democrat. “But I will not be part of normalizing or legitimizing a man whose election may well have depended on the malicious foreign interference of Russia’s leaders.”

Jan. 18, 2017. Two days later, as the number of House Democrats boycotting the inauguration ballooned, Illinois Rep. Jan Schakowsky added her name to the list “in protest of a president who used bigotry, fear, and lies to win an election that was tainted by foreign interference and voter suppression and who intends to betray the interests of the ordinary working people who put him in office.”

Jan. 20, 2017. A headline in the Washington Post informed readers that “the campaign to impeach President Trump has begun.” Actually, Trump wasn’t yet president when Ron Fein, an activist lawyer heading the effort, told the newspaper, “If we were to wait for all the ill effects that could come from this, too much damage to our democracy would occur.”

Feb. 19, 2017. The first Presidents Day weekend of Trump’s White House tenure was celebrated by tens of thousands of progressives in cities across the country who marched in “Not My President Day” rallies. In Georgia, Trump’s impeachment was one of the demands of the organizers. In New York, those attending the protests included Chelsea Clinton and Mayor Bill de Blasio. In San Francisco, the event was organized by the Young Democrats club. Although most of the organizers took pains to point out that they weren’t questioning the legitimacy of the Electoral College or the results of the 2016 election, thousands of marchers carried signs and gave interviews doing exactly that.

April 17, 2018. Marquette University professor Julia Azari, writing in Vox, explained to her readers that “the challenge of Trump’s presidency is legitimacy, not power.”

July 17, 2018. Writing for The Atlantic, David Frum wrote about Trump’s “crisis of legitimacy.”

July 28, 2018. “We need to talk about a forbidden subject: the legitimacy of the current president.” So began cultural critic Virginia Heffernan’s Los Angeles Times column. “There’s been a code of silence around President Donald Trump’s shady victory in 2016,” she continued.

Feb. 19, 2019. Fired FBI official Andrew McCabe told CNN’s Anderson Cooper that he thought it “possible” that Trump is a “Russian asset.” “I completely agree with the way Andy characterized it, you know, that it is a possibility,” former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said on CNN the following night. Former CIA director John Brennan, among the most personally vitriolic Trump critics, said seven months earlier that Trump’s words at a joint press conference with Russian President Vladimir Putin were “nothing short of treasonous.”

May 14, 2019. At a Biden campaign event in Nashua, N.H., a long-winded woman who described herself as having “Trump derangement syndrome” called Trump an “illegitimate president” because he won the 2016 election by nearly 80,000 votes in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan -- aided, she said, by the Kremlin.

“I think all the talk about impeachment and what the Democrats should do, that’s fine, it’s theoretical at this point,” the woman told the former vice president. “Let them investigate, let them subpoena, let them go to the Supreme Court, he’s illegitimate.” In response, Biden quipped, “Would you be my vice presidential candidate?” Turning to the rest of the crowd, Biden added, “Folks, look, I absolutely agree.”

June 28, 2019. Six weeks later, it was Jimmy Carter’s turn. “There’s no doubt that the Russians did interfere in the election, and I think the interference, although not yet quantified, if fully investigated would show that Trump didn’t actually win the election in 2016,” Carter said during a panel discussion at a conference in Leesburg, Va. “He lost the election, and he was put into office because the Russians interfered on his behalf.”

Pressed by moderator Jon Meacham on whether he considers Trump to be “an illegitimate president,” Carter replied: “Based on what I just said, which I can’t retract.”

Sept. 29, 2019. Hillary Clinton said in a “CBS Sunday Morning” interview: “He knows he’s an illegitimate president. I believe he understands that the many varying tactics they used, from voter suppression and voter purging to hacking to the false stories -- he knows that -- there were just a bunch of different reasons why the election turned out like it did.”
https://www.wnd.com/2020/12/list-democrats-called-trump-illegitimate/
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Even though these are all legitimate claims- THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TOTAL NUMBER OF VOTES.

I said, the Democrats never questioned the outcome- pertaining to the number of votes cast!

Does someone need to knock both of your stupid heads together?

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LV426 said:
It's not a miracle, it's your fuckup.

If you hadn't turned COVID into a pandemic, there would not have been record voter turnout thanks to mail voting.

You are to blame for Trump losing last year, and you will be to blame for the GOP losing next year.
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Using the numbers as of today, which are materially similar to Binney’s, we find a huge issue. If we have 213.8 million registered voters in the US and 66.2% of all voters voted in the 2020 election, that equals 141.5 voters who voted in the 2020 election (Binney shows 140 million which is materially the same).

Based on data from NBC, Biden got 81,283,098 votes and Trump got 74,222,958 votes. Other votes totaled 2,926,539. That sums to 158,432,595 votes. How is that even remotely possible?

Only dishonest ,lying dumb fucks can say that there is ZERO evidence of fraud with the actual numbers proving that there HAD to be.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...on-votes-eligible-voters-voted-2020-election/


Should we call the 2020 turnout the Biden Miracle??? He beat Obama's RECORD turnout by FIVE percentage points. A Candidate that couldn't remember where he was, generated little excitement and whose only campaign plan was "anyone BUT Trump?"

Turnout was higher by 23,021,181 voters????

Turnout statistics
1980 52.8%
1984 53.3%
1988 50.3%
1992 55.2%
1996 49.0%
2000 50.3%
2004 55.7%
2008 57.1%
2012 53.8%
2016 54.8%
2020 62.0%
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_United_States_presidential_elections

According to data reported by the US Census Bureau 253,768,092 were adults that were 18 years old or older. So your telling me that EIGHTY-FOUR percent of the population registered to vote.

That is unprecedented. Of that portion, 158,432,595. or 74% voted.

Therefore, Trump, with 74,216,154, shattering Obama's record, LOST to a senile old dunce who got 81,268,924 beating Obama's popularity by 11,770,408 making Biden the most popular President in the history of the Republic. Yet, he couldn't fill a small meeting room of supporters during the campaign or remember what office he was running for. 2020 was TRULY the MIRACLE of miracles eh?
How Many Adults Live in the US? (reference.com)
 
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