Was 2020 election stolen or not?

Dutch Uncle said:
Weren't those cases fought in court and found to lack proper evidence of a violation?
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No. Courts do not have authority to change the Constitution of the United States. The evidence does exist. It can still be examined today. You won't find it on Youtube, Facebook, Twitter, or Google. The affidavits are still there. They still exist. They are still notarized. The laws that were changed illegally are part of the public record. The security camera videos of fake ballots being created and read into machines multiple times are still available for viewing...just not on Youtube. The faults in the Dominion voting machines is still there. The opinions formed by members of the public because of all this are still there and cannot be ignored except at your own peril.
 
Into the Night said:
IBD and GFM aren't commenting here.

Since you want to try to deny your own argument again, I will assume you want to rescind all your statements?
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I've noticed you've posted less with those two socks/"mods" on your little faux forum.

What do you believe I'm denying, INT/IBDa/gfm?
 
Into the Night said:
Try it, dude. You will find your ass isn't worth squat.
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I'm going to start a discussion based on this quotation in your sig.

"Propaganda can also be factual." --Flash

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Can you think of examples of factual propaganda?

A quotation copied from the sig of JPP poster, "Into the Night."

"Propaganda can also be factual." --Flash

@Into the Night
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I thought you might be interested in reading this web page:
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...xamples-of-factual-propaganda&referrerid=8579

From,
Drummie123
 
Into the Night said:
That 'worst dumbass imaginable' had huge rallies with large numbers of people, while Biden couldn't fill an auditorium in a high school.
That 'worst dumbass imaginable' created conditions favorable for corporations to start building plants in the US again, renegotiated successfully NAFTA to better favor the US., built hundreds of miles of wall along the Mexican border to stop and slow illegal immigration, successfully negotiated with NATO nations to pay their fucking bills, re-established pride in the American worker and in producing products in the US.
That 'worst dumbass imaginable' successfully put down Democrat lies and even made fun of them. Successfully won against Democrat attempts to impeach him. Successfully got government out of the way to develop vaccines against Covid19 more quickly. Successfully provided hospitals with equipment needed.

Meanwhile your Holy God Biden has done essentially nothing but stammer incoherently and try to claim his 'success'. This idiot was installed (not elected). Biden didn't win. The election faulted due to election fraud by the Democrats.
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BING!!!
 
Into the Night said:
That 'worst dumbass imaginable' had huge rallies with large numbers of people, while Biden couldn't fill an auditorium in a high school.
That 'worst dumbass imaginable' created conditions favorable for corporations to start building plants in the US again, renegotiated successfully NAFTA to better favor the US., built hundreds of miles of wall along the Mexican border to stop and slow illegal immigration, successfully negotiated with NATO nations to pay their fucking bills, re-established pride in the American worker and in producing products in the US.
That 'worst dumbass imaginable' successfully put down Democrat lies and even made fun of them. Successfully won against Democrat attempts to impeach him. Successfully got government out of the way to develop vaccines against Covid19 more quickly. Successfully provided hospitals with equipment needed.

Meanwhile your Holy God Biden has done essentially nothing but stammer incoherently and try to claim his 'success'. This idiot was installed (not elected). Biden didn't win. The election faulted due to election fraud by the Democrats.
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You are an impressive conspiracy nut. You have no resistance to them at all.
It was the pro-Trump Repub secretaries of state that said the election was clean. They were insulted that rightys said they did not do their jobs properly. It was also the man Trump put in charge of monitoring elections who said it was the cleanest election in history. Yet you believe the far right deep staters, because you want to. Your ability for self-delusion is impressive.
 
Drummie123 said:
I'm going to start a discussion based on this quotation in your sig.

"Propaganda can also be factual." --Flash

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Can you think of examples of factual propaganda?

A quotation copied from the sig of JPP poster, "Into the Night."

"Propaganda can also be factual." --Flash

@Into the Night
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I thought you might be interested in reading this web page:
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...xamples-of-factual-propaganda&referrerid=8579

From,
Drummie123
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Not my quote. That one came from Flash. Ask him to explain it.
Propaganda, by it's nature, is a lie. It may or may not also be considered a fact by some.
Flash is trying to use the word 'fact' as a 'proof' or 'Universal Truth'. A fact is neither.

A fact is simply an assumed predicate. We use them to shorten our conversations, much like a pronoun. We don't have to give the predicate each time if it's already been agreed upon in the conversation. The instant one challenges that predicate, it is no longer a fact. It becomes an argument.

Example: It's a fact that Hobbits have hairy toes, assuming you and I both agree on this predicate by using Tolkien's descriptions of hobbits.
If you do not agree that Hobbits have hairy toes, then it's no longer a fact. It's an argument.

Thus, facts are not a proof, and facts are not a Universal Truth. Flash is using this word as both.

Another example: You and I can accept that Trump made a wonderful president. That is a fact between us. That is not accepted, however, by all. It is not a fact in a conversation with them. It's an argument.

I make fun of Flash's quote because he is actually trying to say that propaganda is in and of itself a proof or a universal truth.
 
Matt Dillon said:
Try it, bitch. We want you to try.
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Take the dick out of your mouth and try to say that again. You're too much a pussy to make the first move. I on the other hand just don't give a fuck about you ass wipes beyond wanting you all to die.
 
Nordberg said:
You are an impressive conspiracy nut. You have no resistance to them at all.
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The Republican part is a conspiracy. The Democrat party is a conspiracy. You are part of a conspiracy.
Nordberg said:
It was the pro-Trump Repub secretaries of state that said the election was clean.
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There was no election in 2020. It faulted due to election fraud by Democrats.
Nordberg said:
They were insulted that rightys said they did not do their jobs properly. It was also the man Trump put in charge of monitoring elections who said it was the cleanest election in history.
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There is no one in charge of declaring an election 'clean'. Only the legislatures of each State can certify an election for President. They are the only ones with authority to do so. At least seven States did not certify their elections.
Nordberg said:
Yet you believe the far right deep staters, because you want to.
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Buzzword fallacies. You're gonna have to stick with English, dude. I don't converse in Liberal.
Nordberg said:
Your ability for self-delusion is impressive.
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Inversion fallacy. You are describing yourself.
 
Diesel said:
You want a piece, too, dumb fuck?
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After you are in jail and on your way back to the sh** hole you are from, I want a patriotic America.

There's nothing you are or have that I want anything to do with.

But I will tell you what I think of you so you will be filled with the kind of self loathing which can only be remedied by going back to where you belong.

Anywhere but America.
 
Diesel said:
Take the dick out of your mouth and try to say that again. You're too much a pussy to make the first move. I on the other hand just don't give a fuck about you ass wipes beyond wanting you all to die.
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LAW ENFORCEMENT PLEASE TAKE NOTICE OF THE ABOVE COMMENT.
 
Into the Night said:
The Republican part is a conspiracy. The Democrat party is a conspiracy. You are part of a conspiracy.

There was no election in 2020. It faulted due to election fraud by Democrats.

There is no one in charge of declaring an election 'clean'. Only the legislatures of each State can certify an election for President. They are the only ones with authority to do so. At least seven States did not certify their elections.

Buzzword fallacies. You're gonna have to stick with English, dude. I don't converse in Liberal.

Inversion fallacy. You are describing yourself.
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That was an impressive post of crap. You just make shit up. You do not traffic in facts or the truth.
 
Nordberg said:
That was an impressive post of crap. You just make shit up. You do not traffic in facts or the truth.
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My best guess is that INT/IBDa/gum is a paranoid schizophrenic. Click on his signature link and read through his little forum. It’s a digital manifesto and an insight into his mind.
 
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