we are actively, intentionally, bombing a nuclear power plant.

Crepitus

Crepitus

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Stop the country, I wanna get off.

This is the stupidest thing in this war so far.

It also pretty much guarantees no "off ramp" for hostilities anytime soon.

www.reuters.com

Rosatom says situation at Iran's Bushehr nuclear power plant keeps deteriorating

The situation at Iran's Bushehr nuclear ‌power plant continues to deteriorate and attacks pose a direct threat to nuclear safety, the head of Russia's state nuclear corporation Rosatom said on Saturday after another strike near the facility.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com
 
It's a PWR with a Western-style secondary containment and was built by the Germans when the Shah was in power. That means all the operators need to do to keep the plant safe is drop the rods and keep cooling water circulating for about 14 days. After that, they can go to a minimal amount of circulation as the plant will have cooled off.

So long as the reactor building and reactor aren't hit, it's no big deal at that point.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
It's a PWR with a Western-style secondary containment and was built by the Germans when the Shah was in power. That means all the operators need to do to keep the plant safe is drop the rods and keep cooling water circulating for about 14 days. After that, they can go to a minimal amount of circulation as the plant will have cooled off.

So long as the reactor building and reactor aren't hit, it's no big deal at that point.
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It violates US and international law.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
It's a PWR with a Western-style secondary containment and was built by the Germans when the Shah was in power. That means all the operators need to do to keep the plant safe is drop the rods and keep cooling water circulating for about 14 days. After that, they can go to a minimal amount of circulation as the plant will have cooled off.

So long as the reactor building and reactor aren't hit, it's no big deal at that point.
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Construction of the plant was started in 1975 by German companies, but the work was stopped in 1979 after the Islamic revolution of Iran. The site was repeatedly bombed during the Iran–Iraq war. Later, a contract for finishing the plant was signed between Iran and the Russian Ministry for Atomic Energy in 1995, with Russia's Atomstroyexport named as the main contractor. The work was delayed several years by technical and financial challenges as well as by political pressure from the West. After construction was again in danger of being stopped in 2007, a renewed agreement was reached in which the Iranians promised to compensate for rising costs and inflation after completion of the plant.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushehr_Nuclear_Power_Plant#cite_note-mdb-1"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a> Delivery of nuclear fuel started in 2007. The plant started adding electricity to the national grid in September 2011,<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushehr_Nuclear_Power_Plant#cite_note-guardian-20110904-2"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a> and opened in September 2011, attended by Russian Energy Minister Sergei Shmatko and head of the Rosatom Sergey Kiriyenko.

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Bushehr Nuclear Power Plant - Wikipedia

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T. A. Gardner said:
What "violates US and international law"? There's no US or international law that prohibits targeting an enemy nation's power plants or grid as a legitimate target of war as electrical power is being supplied from those to war industries and military installations in the enemy's country.
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Yes, attacking nuclear power plants is generally prohibited under international law and can be considered a war crime
. Under Article 56 of Additional Protocol I to the Geneva Conventions, nuclear electrical generating stations are protected from attack if such action could release radiation and cause severe losses to the civilian population, even if they are legitimate military targets.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
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Yes, attacking nuclear power plants is generally prohibited under international law and can be considered a war crime
. Under Article 56 of Additional Protocol I to the Geneva Conventions, nuclear electrical generating stations are protected from attack if such action could release radiation and cause severe losses to the civilian population, even if they are legitimate military targets.
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That argues that you are deliberately destroying the reactor to spread radiation. Given the pinpoint accuracy of strikes today, the US could take out the generator building (non-nuclear) along with the isophase bus yard and other non-nuclear parts of the facility rendering it inoperable. The US doesn't have to smack the secondary containment building at all.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
That argues that you are deliberately destroying the reactor to spread radiation. Given the pinpoint accuracy of strikes today, the US could take out the generator building (non-nuclear) along with the isophase bus yard and other non-nuclear parts of the facility rendering it inoperable. The US doesn't have to smack the secondary containment building at all.
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It says "could". But I'm not a legal scholar.
 
I don't know, but I cannot help but think that maybe trump and Putin have something up their sleeves.

The Russians are now condemning our actions which could, for all we know, lead to an escalation of hostilities (or what appear on the surface to be "hostilities") between Russia and the US, which could conceivably snowball into some kind of prearranged and agreed upon, situation in which Russia gains the upper hand (with the inside help of trump, of course) and the next thing we know, trump is ceding Alaska to them.

Or worse.

Like a boxer taking a dive, trump could, for his own personal gain, be in the process of selling us out to Putin.

Sounds crazy?

With trump, nothing sounds crazy and no level of underhanded treachery is impossible.

Yes, I distrust him that much.
 
Crepitus said:
Stop the country, I wanna get off.

This is the stupidest thing in this war so far.

It also pretty much guarantees no "off ramp" for hostilities anytime soon.

www.reuters.com

Rosatom says situation at Iran's Bushehr nuclear power plant keeps deteriorating

The situation at Iran's Bushehr nuclear ‌power plant continues to deteriorate and attacks pose a direct threat to nuclear safety, the head of Russia's state nuclear corporation Rosatom said on Saturday after another strike near the facility.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com
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NICE!
 
Crepitus said:
Stop the country, I wanna get off.

This is the stupidest thing in this war so far.

It also pretty much guarantees no "off ramp" for hostilities anytime soon.

www.reuters.com

Rosatom says situation at Iran's Bushehr nuclear power plant keeps deteriorating

The situation at Iran's Bushehr nuclear ‌power plant continues to deteriorate and attacks pose a direct threat to nuclear safety, the head of Russia's state nuclear corporation Rosatom said on Saturday after another strike near the facility.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com
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War crimes
 
Nomad said:
I don't know, but I cannot help but think that maybe trump and Putin have something up their sleeves.

The Russians are now condemning our actions which could, for all we know, lead to an escalation of hostilities (or what appear on the surface to be "hostilities") between Russia and the US, which could conceivably snowball into some kind of prearranged and agreed upon, situation in which Russia gains the upper hand (with the inside help of trump, of course) and the next thing we know, trump is ceding Alaska to them.

Or worse.

Like a boxer taking a dive, trump could, for his own personal gain, be in the process of selling us out to Putin.

Sounds crazy?

With trump, nothing sounds crazy and no level of underhanded treachery is impossible.

Yes, I distrust him that much.
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We can believe absolutely nothing this administration says.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
It's a PWR with a Western-style secondary containment and was built by the Germans when the Shah was in power. That means all the operators need to do to keep the plant safe is drop the rods and keep cooling water circulating for about 14 days. After that, they can go to a minimal amount of circulation as the plant will have cooled off.

So long as the reactor building and reactor aren't hit, it's no big deal at that point.
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Stop confusing the idiots with facts
 
T. A. Gardner said:
It's a PWR with a Western-style secondary containment and was built by the Germans when the Shah was in power. That means all the operators need to do to keep the plant safe is drop the rods and keep cooling water circulating for about 14 days. After that, they can go to a minimal amount of circulation as the plant will have cooled off.

So long as the reactor building and reactor aren't hit, it's no big deal at that point.
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Until it doesn't work and then?
 
Nomad said:
I don't know, but I cannot help but think that maybe trump and Putin have something up their sleeves.

The Russians are now condemning our actions which could, for all we know, lead to an escalation of hostilities (or what appear on the surface to be "hostilities") between Russia and the US, which could conceivably snowball into some kind of prearranged and agreed upon, situation in which Russia gains the upper hand (with the inside help of trump, of course) and the next thing we know, trump is ceding Alaska to them.

Or worse.

Like a boxer taking a dive, trump could, for his own personal gain, be in the process of selling us out to Putin.

Sounds crazy?

With trump, nothing sounds crazy and no level of underhanded treachery is impossible.

Yes, I distrust him that much.
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He's been working pretty hard to exhaust our "smart munitions". So that fits.
 
Crepitus said:
Stop the country, I wanna get off.

This is the stupidest thing in this war so far.

It also pretty much guarantees no "off ramp" for hostilities anytime soon.

www.reuters.com

Rosatom says situation at Iran's Bushehr nuclear power plant keeps deteriorating

The situation at Iran's Bushehr nuclear ‌power plant continues to deteriorate and attacks pose a direct threat to nuclear safety, the head of Russia's state nuclear corporation Rosatom said on Saturday after another strike near the facility.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com
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Trump wants another Chernobyl just like his pal Putin.
 
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