"We are fighting against the genocide of the Russian-speaking population" - Rus. Com.

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"We are fighting against the genocide of the Russian-speaking population" - Rus. Com.

As some here may know, I'm a pretty big fan of Canadian American journalist Eva K Bartlett. Recently, she joined RT in Donetsk to film a bit. In the following clip, she interviews Russia's Sparta Commander. She asks some questions, such as what they are fighting for. The Sparta Commander says the following:

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For the truth, we are fighting for the truth. I always rather answer the question, "what are we fighting against?" We are fighting against injustice, against genocide, against this Russophobica that has formed in the Western world.

The genocide of the Russian-speaking population, the dissident population, those who do not think like them, nationalists, Nazis. Against the genocide of the civilian population, because there is no other way to call the enemy's firing on institutions such as the Kalinin hospital, the children's department where children are, schools, the city center, and the market district.

There is no other way to call it, this is precisely the genocide of the civilian population which they consider to be their Ukrainian population. That's how they love them - they kill them.
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The full clip is here:
 
Concart said:
Do you ever read or post anything that isn't propaganda? Ever?
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I could ask you the same inane question as well, but I won't, because I know it's inane. If you disagree with something the Spartan commander said, feel free to specify what you disagreement is. I suppose even an inane question is a bump to the thread, but faced between such a bump and no comment at all, I think I'd prefer no comment.
 
Phoenyx said:
I could ask you the same inane question as well, but I won't, because I know it's inane. If you disagree with something the Spartan commander said, feel free to specify what you disagreement is. I suppose even an inane question is a bump to the thread, but faced between such a bump and no comment at all, I think I'd prefer no comment.
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My disagreement is your source, which is RT, a Russian propaganda source. He is lying.

And I really don't give a fuck what you prefer. It's a message board. People post. Get it?
 
Phoenyx said:
As some here may know, I'm a pretty big fan of Canadian American journalist Eva K Bartlett. Recently, she joined RT in Donetsk to film a bit. In the following clip, she interviews Russia's Sparta Commander. She asks some questions, such as what they are fighting for. The Sparta Commander says the following:

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For the truth, we are fighting for the truth. I always rather answer the question, "what are we fighting against?" We are fighting against injustice, against genocide, against this Russophobica that has formed in the Western world.

The genocide of the Russian-speaking population, the dissident population, those who do not think like them, nationalists, Nazis. Against the genocide of the civilian population, because there is no other way to call the enemy's firing on institutions such as the Kalinin hospital, the children's department where children are, schools, the city center, and the market district.

There is no other way to call it, this is precisely the genocide of the civilian population which they consider to be their Ukrainian population. That's how they love them - they kill them.
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“Concart” has a point, your source, recognized propaganda site

And the “firing on institutions …………” is rather hypocritical given that the major thrust of Putin’s war effort is deliberately targeting civilian populations
 
Russia has a history of attacking countries. They can never be trusted. They have done it a couple of times in the last few years.
 
Phoenyx said:
As some here may know, I'm a pretty big fan of Canadian American journalist Eva K Bartlett. Recently, she joined RT in Donetsk to film a bit. In the following clip, she interviews Russia's Sparta Commander. She asks some questions, such as what they are fighting for. The Sparta Commander says the following:

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For the truth, we are fighting for the truth. I always rather answer the question, "what are we fighting against?" We are fighting against injustice, against genocide, against this Russophobica that has formed in the Western world.

The genocide of the Russian-speaking population, the dissident population, those who do not think like them, nationalists, Nazis. Against the genocide of the civilian population, because there is no other way to call the enemy's firing on institutions such as the Kalinin hospital, the children's department where children are, schools, the city center, and the market district.

There is no other way to call it, this is precisely the genocide of the civilian population which they consider to be their Ukrainian population. That's how they love them - they kill them.
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The full clip is here:
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They were living in peace until Putin attacked Ukraine. Putin did not use that excuse. He pretended he was fighting Nazis.
 
Phoenyx said:
As some here may know, I'm a pretty big fan of Canadian American journalist Eva K Bartlett. Recently, she joined RT in Donetsk to film a bit. In the following clip, she interviews Russia's Sparta Commander. She asks some questions, such as what they are fighting for. The Sparta Commander says the following:

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For the truth, we are fighting for the truth. I always rather answer the question, "what are we fighting against?" We are fighting against injustice, against genocide, against this Russophobica that has formed in the Western world.

The genocide of the Russian-speaking population, the dissident population, those who do not think like them, nationalists, Nazis. Against the genocide of the civilian population, because there is no other way to call the enemy's firing on institutions such as the Kalinin hospital, the children's department where children are, schools, the city center, and the market district.

There is no other way to call it, this is precisely the genocide of the civilian population which they consider to be their Ukrainian population. That's how they love them - they kill them.
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"For the truth, we are fighting for the truth. I always rather answer the question, "what are we fighting against?" We are fighting against injustice, against genocide, against this Russophobica that has formed in the Western world."
So that's why they're targeting civilians and infrastructure in Ukrainian cities that are (especially ) now enthusiastically pro-West Ukrainians?

"Against the genocide of the civilian population, because there is no other way to call the enemy's firing on institutions such as the Kalinin hospital, the children's department where children are, schools, the city center, and the market district."
Let's assume that's true. Why do they do the exact same to a sovereign country in far away cities that are no threat to Russia?

"There is no other way to call it, this is precisely the genocide of the civilian population which they consider to be their Ukrainian population. That's how they love them - they kill them."
And that's exactly how Putin and his henchmen consider the Ukrainians. They are their Russian brothers whom they love so deeply they murder them. On their own soil..

Really Phoenyx. I realize you are slightly pro-Russia in this war but I thought you were more objective than to post such blatant propaganda as this. It's waaay too simplistic.
The origins of this war can be traced as far back as Russian violation of the Budapest Memorandum.
 
I can think of massive factions of our society that could be excised to good effect,
most of which are represented among our posters.

I would prefer the most humane methods possible, but it would be to good effect in the end.
 
Phoenyx said:
As some here may know, I'm a pretty big fan of Canadian American journalist Eva K Bartlett. Recently, she joined RT in Donetsk to film a bit. In the following clip, she interviews Russia's Sparta Commander. She asks some questions, such as what they are fighting for. The Sparta Commander says the following:

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For the truth, we are fighting for the truth. I always rather answer the question, "what are we fighting against?" We are fighting against injustice, against genocide, against this Russophobica that has formed in the Western world.

The genocide of the Russian-speaking population, the dissident population, those who do not think like them, nationalists, Nazis. Against the genocide of the civilian population, because there is no other way to call the enemy's firing on institutions such as the Kalinin hospital, the children's department where children are, schools, the city center, and the market district.

There is no other way to call it, this is precisely the genocide of the civilian population which they consider to be their Ukrainian population. That's how they love them - they kill them.
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You should read this. It's a little slanted toward Russia (to your liking) but quite objective.
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/orde...re-about-ukraine-and-the-budapest-memorandum/
 
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As some here may know, I'm a pretty big fan of Canadian American journalist Eva K Bartlett.
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Eva Karene Bartlett is an American Canadian activist, commentator, and blogger who has propagated conspiracy theories in connection to the Syrian civil war,[1][2][3] most notably the disproven allegation that the White Helmets stage rescues and "recycle" children in its videos.[1][4][5][6]

Bartlett describes herself as an "independent writer and rights activist."[4] She writes commentary pieces for Russian state-controlled RT's website.[note 1][8][9] Critics contend that her advocacy amounts to participation in a disinformation campaign aimed at lessening the responsibility of the Assad regime for the acts of indiscriminate killing during the war, and to promote pro-Kremlin content in relation to the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine.[10] Her posts on social media have been tagged with the disclaimer that her writings "may be partially or wholly under the editorial control of the Russian government."[11]

Bartlett has been living in Russia since 2019. She has been making videos and posts on social media from Ukraine during the Russian invasion, sometimes with journalists from RT. She often appears as a guest on RT. She has been criticised for spreading Kremlin propaganda and misinformation.[10][12
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eva_Bartlett
 
There's more.


Syrian civil war viral disinformation video


In late 2016, Bartlett gained controversy over a video that went viral, in which she said that Syrians "overwhelmingly support" Bashar al-Assad, as evidenced by the results of the 2014 election.[17][18] The election was seen as illegitimate by a number of countries and international organizations,[19][20][21] while Russia has endorsed Assad's mandate. Further, she has characterized the White Helmets as being part of a Western propaganda campaign, alleging that rescues by that organization are hoaxes whereby they "recycle" the same children in footage of staged rescues,[17][18][22] and that "no one in eastern Aleppo has heard of [the White Helmets]".[17]

In the same video, Bartlett falsely claimed that the al-Quds Hospital bombing in April 2016, where 55 died, never occurred, saying it was rebel propaganda.[5][23] Bartlett's claims were amplified by Russian-controlled outlets such as RT, Sputnik News and In The Now.[24][17] The claims were found to be false by Channel 4 News and Snopes.[1][4][5][6] The broader "same girl" internet meme has been categorized as a derivation of the "crisis actor" conspiracy theories.[25] The video presented Bartlett as an independent journalist speaking to the United Nations when in fact the event was staged by the Syrian government.[26]

In 2017, Bartlett was rebuked by The Syria Campaign, an advocacy group that campaigns on behalf of the White Helmets.[27] Relying on research done by the social media intelligence company Graphika, it released a report alleging a Russian disinformation campaign in the Syrian Civil War, according to which Bartlett was part of a network seeking to discredit the White Helmets in order to lessen war crimes committed by the Assad regime.[28][29]
 
The only thing wrong with that video is that it is missing the context of Russia having now a long record of bombing hospitals.
 
Isn't this similar to the BS the Russian's used to invade Afghanistan? I'm not saying the Ukrainian gov't were angels in dealing with the pro-Russian sections, but that does not condone invasion.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Isn't this similar to the BS the Russian's used to invade Afghanistan? I'm not saying the Ukrainian gov't were angels in dealing with the pro-Russian sections, but that does not condone invasion.
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America is in no position to talk about unjustified invasions after Iraq, which was done on the back of lies.
 
Phoenyx said:
"We are fighting against the genocide of the Russian-speaking population" - Rus. Com.
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Zelinskyy, the leader of Ukraine, is a Russian speaking Ukrainian. Odesa, a Russian speaking Ukrainian city fought hard to keep the Russians from invading. Russians are doing the best in areas that are easiest for an outside army to invade, with the number of Russian speakers seeming to have no effect on it.

By the way Zelinskyy is Jewish, so I would question the claim that Ukraine is taken over by Nazis.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
A point that the Chinese make every day.
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The Chinese claim that everyone who speaks Chinese, or has a historical link to speaking Chinese must be under one Chinese government. The Russians make a similar argument, as did the Nazis before them.

It is a hard argument for Americans to understand, much less agree with. There are dozens of English speaking countries with independence. We feel no need to submit to England.
 
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