we need to re-think the Inviolability of religious and philosophical institutions

[Truck Fump / h1b]

remember AHZ that Jesus was a Jew.
well according to the bible anyway.

Yet his belief that he was the savior makes him clearly at odds with jewish teachings.

 

[blackascoal]

What is spiritual though, bac? It seems meaningless.

Spirtuality is a verb my brother. It is that which moves you to becoming a better you. It is the emotion and passion that drives the best of you. It doesn't come with pre-described dictates and stories like religion. It doesn't require a leader, although the words, beliefs, and life of another could indeed open an intellectual awakening in ones consciousness that leads to spiritual emotion.

 

[uscitizen]

Yep and there are Jewish Christians as well. go figure.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

Spirtuality is a verb my brother. It is that which moves you to becoming a better you. It is the emotion and passion that drives the best of you. It doesn't come with pre-described dictates and stories like religion. It doesn't require a leader, although the words, beliefs, and life of another could indeed open an intellectual awakening in ones consciousness that leads to spiritual emotion.

But what is BETTER?

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

Yep and there are Jewish Christians as well. go figure.

Those are called christians. But there folks may call them bad jews.

 

[blackascoal]

remember AHZ that Jesus was a Jew.
well according to the bible anyway.

There is no race called "jewish."

It is a religion and being jewish is a label of one who believes in the jewish faith.

Did Jesus believe in the jewish faith .. or isn't that because he did not believe in the jewish faith he was cruxified?

 

[blackascoal]

But what is BETTER?

Like "God", it depends on ones own perspective.

Spirituality moves and it removes distinctions based on faith, race, sex, or labels.

Religion by its very nature is divisive.

 

[uscitizen]

There is no race called "jewish."

It is a religion and being jewish is a label of one who believes in the jewish faith.

Did Jesus believe in the jewish faith .. or isn't that because he did not believe in the jewish faith he was cruxified?

He was crucified for offering the people a way to god that bypassed the power of the temple.
He shot around the business of the jewish religion.
He kept the faith.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

Like "God", it depends on ones own perspective.

Spirituality moves and it removes distinctions based on faith, race, sex, or
labels.

Oh really. What a nice panacea you have there.

Religion by its very nature is divisive.

Unless your religion is moral.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

There is no race called "jewish."

It is a religion and being jewish is a label of one who believes in the jewish faith.

Did Jesus believe in the jewish faith .. or isn't that because he did not believe in the jewish faith he was cruxified?

There are a people called Jews and they reproduce through mating. And they believe if your mother is jewish, you're automatically jewish.

 

[uscitizen]

Jooz have their morals, Islamics have their morals, etc...
Moral is a very subjective term .

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

BAC, are there atheist jews? How does that work?

 

[blackascoal]

He was crucified for offering the people a way to god that bypassed the power of the temple.
He shot around the business of the jewish religion.
He kept the faith.

Thus, he was not jewish.

How can one be born jewish, catholic, muslim, or christian when one has to accept the tenets of religion?

You can be raised in a religious faith, but how can you be it until you accept it?

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

Jooz have their morals, Islamics have their morals, etc...
Moral is a very subjective term .

No it's not. Morality is prosocial behavior which facilitates increased cooperation and individual benefit without deceit and elitism.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

Thus, he was not jewish.

How can one be born jewish, catholic, muslim, or christian when one has to accept the tenets of religion?

You can be raised in a religious faith, but how can you be it until you accept it?

When the faith is actually a form of tribalism. What do I get?

 

[blackascoal]

BAC, are there atheist jews? How does that work?

It can't .. just as there can't be atheist christians.

There is no race called christian.

There can be atheist Israelis .. who are not jews.

 

[uscitizen]

Thus, he was not jewish.

How can one be born jewish, catholic, muslim, or christian when one has to accept the tenets of religion?

You can be raised in a religious faith, but how can you be it until you accept it?

He accepted it. the proof is throwing the moneychangers from his fathers house just days before his crucifixtion.

 

[Damocles]

There are a people called Jews and they reproduce through mating. And they believe if your mother is jewish, you're automatically jewish.

Again, sad. This is a piddling trifle. If you don't believe you are Jewish you are less likely to marry a Jewish girl, your kids aren't likely Jews...

Of course, if you believe you are, you can marry a nice converted girl and still have Jewish kids. Or you can just get your wife to convert so your kids can enjoy being part of the race you fear so much.

 

[blackascoal]

When the faith is actually a form of tribalism. What do I get?

Regardless of what semantics one uses, "faith" is a belief in something one does not know to be true.

Religion by definition is a form of tribalism.

What you get is the companionship of fellow tribesman.

 

[uscitizen]

Damo What can he say he just met a girl named Maria Goldstein