We're a pro-choice nation

Doesn't that woman have a right to choose what processes her body goes through? Whether or not she wants to subject her body to the taxing effects of pregnancy or childbirth?

You think a mother should kill her child? What did that child do to deserve capital punishment? Shouldn't a Mother give her child it's right to life?
 
I have never refused to answer your questions. You just do not like my answers...and rather than refute them, you pretend I have not answered the question.





There is no child in the womb. During a significant amount of that time...there is just a clump of cells.



It is up to the woman...not up to you or to the government.

Your lies do not answer the question. I have provem life begins at conception according to science
 
Your lies do not answer the question. I have provem life begins at conception according to science

You are not bright enough to "prove" 2 + 2 = 4 in base 10.

Deluded people like you are a significant reason why this issue is still so divisive at this time. I figure we will eventually get past your kind.
 
You are not bright enough to "prove" 2 + 2 = 4 in base 10.

Deluded people like you are a significant reason why this issue is still so divisive at this time. I figure we will eventually get past your kind.

I gave you links that prove a childs life starts at conception but being a Democrat truth does not matter the Party is all that matters
 
I gave you links that prove a childs life starts at conception but being a Democrat truth does not matter the Party is all that matters

The links you gave to politically conservative bullshit groups is a joke. YOU are a joke also.

As I mentioned here, every human begin starts as a fertilized single cell...an egg cell. That does not make the cell cluster a living human...any more than the fact that an acorn will, under the right circumstances, grow into an oak tree...make an acorn an oak tree.

I am NOT a Democrat...and have mentioned that several times. I do not know what your political affiliation is, but you do appear to be a moron...and as such, you should be speaking of comic books or cartoons rather than serious subjects.

As I said, you are not bright enough to "prove" 2 + 2 = 4 in base 10.
 
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The American College of Pediatricians (ACPeds) is a socially conservative advocacy group of pediatricians and other healthcare professionals in the United States, founded in 2002.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ameri... Pediatricians,United States, founded in 2002.

Bunch of right-wing hacks...ADVOCATING for a particular position rather than stating scientific facts.

And "when human life begins" is not the same as "is it a living human."

Yeah, you, I, EVERYONE began as a single fertilized cell. But that did not make us a living human right from the start. A clump of cells...IS NOT A LIVING HUMAN.

Still waiting for an answer to my question to religious people.
 
The American College of Pediatricians (ACPeds) is a socially conservative advocacy group of pediatricians and other healthcare professionals in the United States, founded in 2002.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ameri... Pediatricians,United States, founded in 2002.
Bunch of right-wing hacks...ADVOCATING for a particular position rather than stating scientific facts.

And "when human life begins" is not the same as "is it a living human."

Yeah, you, I, EVERYONE began as a single fertilized cell. But that did not make us a living human right from the start. A clump of cells...IS NOT A LIVING HUMAN.

Still waiting for an answer to my question to religious people.
So you dismiss them because they're conservative? What does the beginning of a human life mean to you? W women receive prenatal care...if they starved themselves, both the woman and child would be harmed...If they take certain drugs, the baby's life is harmed...The woman is responsible for the life growing inside her... If she miscarries, she loses a child...If she aborts, she loses a child...How is it any different? I know...the wanted vs unwanted...but that doesn't change the definition of what ends with either....and with that, enjoy your weekend...we'll be fine with agreeing to disagree...this has nothing to do with either of us in actuality...
 
So you dismiss them because they're conservative? What does the beginning of a human life mean to you? W women receive prenatal care...if they starved themselves, both the woman and child would be harmed...If they take certain drugs, the baby's life is harmed...The woman is responsible for the life growing inside her... If she miscarries, she loses a child...If she aborts, she loses a child...How is it any different? I know...the wanted vs unwanted...but that doesn't change the definition of what ends with either....and with that, enjoy your weekend...we'll be fine with agreeing to disagree...this has nothing to do with either of us in actuality...

Indeed.

I would trust a group of doctors, the American College of Pediatricians, far more than an 86 year old loon who supports the murder of unborn children.

An admitted drug user, a person who supports the murder of unborn children, and a bartender who served alcohol to drunks who killed themselves or others, is not my definition of a good, caring person.
 
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So you dismiss them because they're conservative?

NO...I dismiss them because they are an advocacy group.

I would NOT accept your conclusion that a clump of cells growing during a pregnancy is a "living human" because your "conclusion" is clouded by your desire for that to be so. I would not accept their conclusions for the same reason.

What does the beginning of a human life mean to you?

It means that every living thing starts out as a single cell that has been fertilized in some way.


W women receive prenatal care...if they starved themselves, both the woman and child would be harmed...If they take certain drugs, the baby's life is harmed...The woman is responsible for the life growing inside her... If she miscarries, she loses a child...If she aborts, she loses a child...How is it any different? I know...the wanted vs unwanted...but that doesn't change the definition of what ends with either....and with that,

You seem totally willing to dismiss the woman's right to control her body in this instance...and for the government to INSTRUCT her, under penalty of law, to carry a pregnancy to term.

I find that so revolting...it eclipses your revulsion at anyone willing to allow abortions to occur. I KNOW the woman is a living human...with rights. You want to have her rights eliminated in favor of supposed rights you are granting to what you want to claim to be a living human...that is nothing more than a clump of cells growing in a host's body. That just cannot be allowed to prosper. Those of us who value personal freedom must fight it with full vigor.

enjoy your weekend...we'll be fine with agreeing to disagree...this has nothing to do with either of us in actuality...

Thank you, TOP. You have a great weekend also. It is going to be a beautiful one (weather wise) here.

One last comment: Insofar as it has to do with the least of us...it has to do with us. Allowing the government decide what you can and cannot do with regard to reproductive rights might at some point prevent guys doing what I did a long while back...obtain a vasectomy. It might prevent women from seeking help in getting pregnant...and so many other intrusions.
 
Indeed.

I would trust a group of doctors, the American College of Pediatricians, far more than an 86 year old loon who supports the murder of unborn children.

An admitted drug user, a person who supports the murder of unborn children, and a bartender who served alcohol to drunks who killed themselves or others, is not my definition of a good, caring person.

Who gives a fuck about your definition of a "good, caring person?"

You probably think yourself to be such a person.

I, on the other hand, think you are a hypocritical jerkoff.
 
NO...I dismiss them because they are an advocacy group.

I would NOT accept your conclusion that a clump of cells growing during a pregnancy is a "living human" because your "conclusion" is clouded by your desire for that to be so. I would not accept their conclusions for the same reason.



It means that every living thing starts out as a single cell that has been fertilized in some way.




You seem totally willing to dismiss the woman's right to control her body in this instance...and for the government to INSTRUCT her, under penalty of law, to carry a pregnancy to term.

I find that so revolting...it eclipses your revulsion at anyone willing to allow abortions to occur. I KNOW the woman is a living human...with rights. You want to have her rights eliminated in favor of supposed rights you are granting to what you want to claim to be a living human...that is nothing more than a clump of cells growing in a host's body. That just cannot be allowed to prosper. Those of us who value personal freedom must fight it with full vigor.



Thank you, TOP. You have a great weekend also. It is going to be a beautiful one (weather wise) here.

One last comment: Insofar as it has to do with the least of us...it has to do with us. Allowing the government decide what you can and cannot do with regard to reproductive rights might at some point prevent guys doing what I did a long while back...obtain a vasectomy. It might prevent women from seeking help in getting pregnant...and so many other intrusions.

I'll continue to hold on to the hope that women will be more responsible when it comes to birth control.

If you know that you don't want children then you prepare your body so that children don't happen.
. It's not that difficult or we'd all have 10...lol I'm sure there is the occasional birth control failure... but not millions of them...
 
The links you gave to politically conservative bullshit groups is a joke. YOU are a joke also.

As I mentioned here, every human begin starts as a fertilized single cell...an egg cell. That does not make the cell cluster a living human...any more than the fact that an acorn will, under the right circumstances, grow into an oak tree...make an acorn an oak tree.

I am NOT a Democrat...and have mentioned that several times. I do not know what your political affiliation is, but you do appear to be a moron...and as such, you should be speaking of comic books or cartoons rather than serious subjects.

As I said, you are not bright enough to "prove" 2 + 2 = 4 in base 10.

I showed science. I guess science only matters if it agrees with your arrogant egotistical elitist opinion
 
I showed science. I guess science only matters if it agrees with your arrogant egotistical elitist opinion

You did not show "science." You showed an advocacy group in action. You showed what amounts to Trump's doctor telling us back in 2016 that electing Trump would result in us having the healthiest president we've ever had.

Get off your bullshit. You are not nearly bright enough to pull it off.
 
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