Were you a part of the old GOP?
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Tbird19482
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What Trump and his MAGAS have turned the old GOP into would make Reagan and a lot of other Conservative GOP members spin in their graves.
Yes the old GOP had standards and now the have abandoned them and gone full Trump, Trump , Trump.
As I was reading the other day they have got over half of Project 2025 in place and that should have a lot of people worried.
He single-handedly exposed them for the fakes they were. I always knew it…. Fakes or stupid.
Dutch Uncle
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I was from the time I could first vote in the 1970s until 2012 when the Republicans blew off the results of their own "Growth & Opportunity Project" because it recommended embracing Hispanics. I could no longer hold my nose long enough to support overt racism. Unwilling to vote Democrat, I chose to vote straight Libertarian ever since.
From Google AI:
why did the republican party disregard their post-2012 growth & opportunity project?
The Republican Party largely disregarded key recommendations from its post-2012
"Growth & Opportunity Project" due to internal party disagreements and the rise of Donald Trump, whose successful campaign strategy explicitly contradicted the report's main proposals on messaging and inclusion.
Key Reasons for Disregard
- Donald Trump's Success: The primary reason the report was sidelined was the success of Donald Trump's 2016 presidential campaign. Trump's rhetoric on immigration (e.g., describing undocumented Mexican immigrants as "rapists") and other social issues was seen as a direct repudiation of the report's call for more inclusive language and outreach to minority groups. His victory demonstrated to many Republicans that the report's proposed path was not the only way to win national elections.
- Internal Party Disagreements: The report, often called the "GOP Autopsy," was welcomed by some party leaders but met with criticism from other factions, including some grassroots activists and conservative commentators. There was no universal consensus on the needed changes, leading to internal divisions over the best path forward.
- Fear of Alienating the Base: Some Republicans feared that the proposed changes, particularly the call to embrace comprehensive immigration reform, would alienate the party's core conservative base and lead to primary challenges. The anti-illegal immigration stance proved to be a powerful mobilizer for many voters.
- Mixed Implementation: The RNC did implement some of the report's operational recommendations, such as improving data and digital capabilities and streamlining the primary process. However, the more significant cultural and messaging shifts, which were arguably the most critical components of the report, saw little traction.
- Focus on Core Constituencies: The report warned that without change, the party's appeal would "continue to shrink to its core constituencies only". With Trump's strategy, the party essentially doubled down on its core demographics (white working-class voters, evangelicals), a strategy that, while defying the "autopsy," proved successful in the 2016 election.
They never believed in that. It was just lipstick on the pig.
It was always about racial resentment, white supremacy, xenophobia, fear of gays.
Dutch Uncle
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The Democrats were very racist in their day. A lot changed after the 1964 CRA. When the Democrats flip-flopped on racism, so did the Republicans by implementing the Southern Strategy. Those changes began in the mid to late 60s, but took a few decades to fully take root.
Xenophobia was, and still is, a common social trait. Human beings, through evolution, are naturally resistant to changing from the "tried and true". Nowadays, the Republicans have become pathologically xenophobic, but that wasn't always so. Even though a Republican, Tailgunner Joe, fanned the flames of "the Red Scare", he was simply trying to outdo what Truman already started with the Containment Strategy AKA the Truman Doctrine.
Fear of gays goes back to all Abrahamic religions. IDK why. Homosexuality was commonly accepted among the Greeks and Romans. British genius Alan Turing was prosecuted for homosexuality in 1952 Britain and accepted chemical castration to avoid prison. It messed him up and he died in 1954. Homosexuality was decriminalized in the UK in 1967. Decriminalization spread slowly across the States for decades until all sodomy laws (which includes male-female oral and anal sex) in 2003. While the Republicans played up homophobia, it was mostly due to the extremist Christian elements inside the party beginning in the late 1980s. IOW, the Evangelistas.
In short, until Trump, the Republicans were not as bad nor were the Democrats as good as non-MAGAts claim.
Ronald Reagan would be considered a "libtard" by MAGA's standards.
QP!
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I doubt you get a single Magat to admit this as that would then expose their mass hypocrisy as they have turned on almost all prior beliefs of the party and what founded and made up American greatness. That is other than being a NeoCon which is suddenly back and being defined as part of America First despite it being rejected by magats prior.
Freddy Figbottom
Was it me?
remember when you considered assassination a crime?
Political parties evolve.
The Democratic party used to be a socially conservative, states rights party.
If we were living in 1870, I would register to be a Republican.
I didn't mind Gerald Ford and Poppy Bush the elder because I knew they weren't fascists and I knew they wouldn't embarrass America.
