Western Civilization is Based on Judeo-Christian Values – Debunked

Thanks SBS. (Try to ignore the Death threats {in the Name of Jesus} that you will receive here, along with the incantations of "SBS is a Pagan possessed by Satan!")
 
video fail......his entire argument is based on the argument that Jews and Christians didn't create morality........it overlooks the fact that the morality that the West developed is not a Mesopotamian morality.......it is not a Greco-Roman morality.........it is in fact a Judeo-Christian morality........
 
PostmodernProphet said:
video fail......his entire argument is based on the argument that Jews and Christians didn't create morality........it overlooks the fact that the morality that the West developed is not a Mesopotamian morality.......it is not a Greco-Roman morality.........it is in fact a Judeo-Christian morality........
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Have you never heard of Hamurrabi or the Egyptian Book of the Dead?
 
Western culture is not built on either Hamurrabi's Code or the Book of the Dead........I have linked copies of both to threads we've discussed and still it is obvious you have never read either........

I bet this from the Book of the Dead was the model for the freedom of speech, wasn't it......
The Great Company of the gods say to Thoth who dwells in Khemenu ( Hermopolis ): That which comes forth from your mouth shall be declared true. The Osiris the scribe Ani, whose word is true, is holy and righteous. He has not committed any sin, and he has done no evil against us. The devourer Am-mit shall not be permitted to prevail over him. Meat offerings and admittance into the presence of the god Osiris shall be granted to him, together with an abiding habitation in the Field of Offerings (Sekhet-hetepet), as to the Followers of Horus.
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or did you think our culture was based on the 47 commandments instead of the ten....
Usekh-nemmt from Anu - I haven't committed sin.
Hept-khet from Kher-aha - I haven't committed robbery with violence.
Fenti from Khemenu ( Hermopolis ) - I haven't stolen.
Am-khaibit from Qernet - I haven't slain men and women.
Neha-her from Rasta - I haven't stolen grain.
Ruruti from heaven - I haven't purloined offerings.
Arfi-em-khet from Suat - I haven't stolen the property of god.
Neba, who comes and goest - I haven't uttered lies.
Seth-qesu from Hensu - I haven't carried away food.
Utu-nesert from Ptah - I haven't uttered curses.
Qerrti from Amentet - I haven't committed adultery - I haven't lain with men.
Her-f-ha-f from your cavern - I have made none to weep.
Basti from Bast - I haven't eaten the heart.
Ta-retiu from the night - I haven't attacked any man.
Unem-snef from the execution chamber - I am not a man of deceit.
Unem-besek from Mabit - I haven't stolen cultivated land.
Neb- Maat from Maati - I haven't been an eavesdropper.
Tenemiu from Bast - I haven't slandered no man.
Sertiu from Anu - I haven't been angry without just cause.
Tutu from Ati (the Busirite Nome) - I haven't debauched the wife of any man.
Uamenti from the Khebt chamber - I haven't debauched the wife of any man.
Maa-antuf from Per-Menu - I haven't polluted myself.
Her-uru from Nehatu - I have terrorized none.
Khemiu from Kaui - I haven't transgressed the law.
Shet-kheru from Urit - I haven't been wroth.
Nekhenu from Heqat - I haven't shut my ears to the words of truth.
Kenemti from Kenmet - I haven't blasphemed.
An-hetep-f from Sau - I am not a man of violence.
Sera-kheru from Unaset - I haven't been a stirrer up of strife.
Neb-heru from Netchfet - I haven't acted with undue haste.
Sekhriu from Uten - I haven't pried into matters.
Neb-abui from Sauti - I haven't multiplied my words in speaking.
Nefer-Tem from Ptah - I have wronged none - I have done no evil.
Tem-Sepu from Tetu - I haven't worked witchcraft against the Pharaoh.
Ari-em-ab-f from Tebu - I have never stopped the flow of water.
Ahi from Nu - I have never raised my voice.
Uatch-rekhit from Sau - I haven't cursed god.
Neheb-ka from your cavern - I haven't acted with arrogance.
Neheb-nefert from your cavern - I haven't stolen the bread of the gods.
Tcheser-tep from the shrine - I haven't carried away the khenfu cakes from the Spirits of the dead.
An-af from Maati - I haven't snatched away the bread of a child, nor treated with contempt the city god.
Hetch-abhu from Ta-she (the Fayyum) - I haven't slain the cattle belonging to the god.
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that stealing the bread of the gods thing was an important influence during the Neapolitan Wars if I recall........
 
I don't think the morality of the Greeks or Romans was up to much (though I'm currently reading Marcus Aurelius). The morality of most European peoples was a mixture of folk-custom, Roman Catholicism and Christianity, in various proportions.
 
iolo said:
I don't think the morality of the Greeks or Romans was up to much (though I'm currently reading Marcus Aurelius). The morality of most European peoples was a mixture of folk-custom, Roman Catholicism and Christianity, in various proportions.
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The morality of most Europeans is based on the Enlightenment, which had its roots in ancient Athens. Of course, morality has evolved a lot since then, but if we had to pick a starting point to where Western Civilization began, in terms of morality and politics, it would definitely be the Enlightenment.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
video fail......his entire argument is based on the argument that Jews and Christians didn't create morality........it overlooks the fact that the morality that the West developed is not a Mesopotamian morality.......it is not a Greco-Roman morality.........it is in fact a Judeo-Christian morality........
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Oh, dear. There's your historical pig-ignorance of full display again. Where'd you study history? Pep Boys? Trump U?
 
Jack said:
Thanks SBS. (Try to ignore the Death threats {in the Name of Jesus} that you will receive here, along with the incantations of "SBS is a Pagan possessed by Satan!")
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hes a fake left person


be on the watch for them as the republican party sinks to the bottom of the sea
 
PostmodernProphet said:
video fail......his entire argument is based on the argument that Jews and Christians didn't create morality........it overlooks the fact that the morality that the West developed is not a Mesopotamian morality.......it is not a Greco-Roman morality.........it is in fact a Judeo-Christian morality........
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That's only part of his argument. His argument is also that all of the values which we consider to be "Western values" come from the Enlightenment with roots in ancient Athens. He also points out that during the Middle Ages, when Christianity actually did rule Europe, we didn't have these Western values. He even shows that the Bible forbids most of these values, meaning Judaism and Christianity are opposed to Western philosophy in both theory and practice.
 
StoneByStone said:
I mean, that last part could be true.
Hail Tyr!
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The Majority here support the 'Love of Jesus' best exemplified by the Inquisition and can see nothing wrong with burning Witches (after a Fair Trial, of course).
Athenian democracy? They're not sure really what that is. And Free Speech, ... that's allowed as long as it agrees with their point of view.

(Your time here may be short) :(

Oh PS: If you run into someone called 'Miss Phantasmal', be 'en grade'. She thinks having sex under the age of 25 should be a crime and calls her Husband her 'Butt Buddy'. Unfortunately for the rest of us ... she's a Moderator.
 
Jack said:
The Majority here support the 'Love of Jesus' best exemplified by the Inquisition and can see nothing wrong with burning Witches (after a Fair Trial, of course).
Athenian democracy? They're not sure really what that is. And Free Speech, ... that's allowed as long as it agrees with their point of view.

(Your time here may be short) :(

Oh PS: If you run into someone called 'Miss Phantasmal', be 'en grade'. She thinks having sex under the age of 25 should be a crime and calls her Husband her 'Butt Buddy'. Unfortunately for the rest of us ... she's a Moderator.
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Oh shit, are there /rel/ cucksaders here? I thought they stuck to image boards.
Why does she call her husband that? Is that like Christian irony?
 
Jack said:
The Majority here support the 'Love of Jesus' best exemplified by the Inquisition and can see nothing wrong with burning Witches (after a Fair Trial, of course).
Athenian democracy? They're not sure really what that is. And Free Speech, ... that's allowed as long as it agrees with their point of view.

(Your time here may be short) :(

Oh PS: If you run into someone called 'Miss Phantasmal', be 'en grade'. She thinks having sex under the age of 25 should be a crime and calls her Husband her 'Butt Buddy'. Unfortunately for the rest of us ... she's a Moderator.
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WTF


she is awesome


maybe you should be on the suspect list too
 
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