What about freedom FROM religion?

Yakuda said:
There is no such thing as freedom FROM religion you retarded dipshit.

As for what you want nobody gives a fuck. The constitution, unfortunately for you fuck face says there is the right to free expression of religion that cant be prohibited but you fucking nazis dont give a shit about the constitution until it serves your ends. Fuck you and everybody you know
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Your freedom from religion means you (and school children) are not required to cite the pledge. Don't look at your money. Those two things are trivial compared to our general freedom from religion.
 
saltydancin said:
Just fantastic even if it is dumb as it gets to continually get confirmation of that SCOTUS Rehnquist Fourth Reich July 9/11 national religion of Christiananality pedophilia not passing over US destruction while enduring Federal Lynching KKK churchstate of hate fiefdom drug trafficking enforcement of their not so master race "man is God" not passing over a Washington, D.C. born USA citizen for an Islamidiotocracy ......
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Random phrases. No apparent coherency. Try English.
 
Flash said:
Your freedom from religion means you (and school children) are not required to cite the pledge. Don't look at your money. Those two things are trivial compared to our general freedom from religion.
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There is no freedom from religion. Even an atheist is surrounded by believers of one religion or another.
 
Into the Night said:
There is no freedom from religion. Even an atheist is surrounded by believers of one religion or another.
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Being free from religion does not mean you can't be around religious people. It means the government cannot require you to engage in any religious activity or prohibit you from doing so.
 
Into the Night said:
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From the cognitive dissonance yet another of those SCOTUS Rehnquist more perfect union "serve the Pope or die" & Islam "death to the infidels" Fourth Reich July 9/11 suicidal super ego Christiananality - Mohammed pedophilia crusade - jihad matchmakers where making America a waste of time from declaring Washington, D.C. born USA citizens as Islam for Federal Lynching KKK churchstate of hate fiefdom drug trafficking enforcement thieving US Constitution arsonists Freudian slips in 9/11 malice aforethought not so master race malfeasance....
 
Flash said:
Being free from religion does not mean you can't be around religious people. It means the government cannot require you to engage in any religious activity or prohibit you from doing so.
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Yet despite this, many people are quite religious. How can they be free of religion because the government doesn't prohibit their religion?
 
saltydancin said:
From the cognitive dissonance yet another of those SCOTUS Rehnquist more perfect union "serve the Pope or die" & Islam "death to the infidels" Fourth Reich July 9/11 suicidal super ego Christiananality - Mohammed pedophilia crusade - jihad matchmakers where making America a waste of time from declaring Washington, D.C. born USA citizens as Islam for Federal Lynching KKK churchstate of hate fiefdom drug trafficking enforcement thieving US Constitution arsonists Freudian slips in 9/11 malice aforethought not so master race malfeasance....
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Random phrases. No apparent coherency. Learn English.
 
Into the Night said:
Random phrases. No apparent coherency. Try English.
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Maybe I should be honored with this reincarnation of SCOTUS Rehnquist Fourth Reich July 9/11 crooks on Capital Hill Daleks that after witnessing Federal Lynching KKK churchstate of hate fiefdom drug trafficking enforcement thieving US Constitution Bill of Rights arsonists then baptize thine eyes of 2 Washington, D.C. born USA citizens in declaring them Islam with a Freudian slip of premeditated malice aforethought as "one nation under God with equal justice under law".....
 
saltydancin said:
Maybe I should be honored with this reincarnation of SCOTUS Rehnquist Fourth Reich July 9/11 crooks on Capital Hill Daleks that after witnessing Federal Lynching KKK churchstate of hate fiefdom drug trafficking enforcement thieving US Constitution Bill of Rights arsonists then baptize thine eyes of 2 Washington, D.C. born USA citizens in declaring them Islam with a Freudian slip of premeditated malice aforethought as "one nation under God with equal justice under law".....
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Random phrases. No apparent coherency. Try English.
 
Into the Night said:
Yet despite this, many people are quite religious. How can they be free of religion because the government doesn't prohibit their religion?
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The many people who are quite religious do not want to be free from religion. The government cannot prohibit people from being religious because they have the constitutional right to practice their religion.
 
Frank Apisa said:
Interesting op ed piece about freedom FROM religion in the Washington Post this morning. I recommend it, although it may be behind a paywall.

It is by Kate Cohen and is titled, “Why are we so tolerant of churchy bigotry?”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/03/06/religious-bigotry-lgbtq-homophobia/

Here’s a taste of it:

Are we just so accustomed to the anti-LGBTQ stances of conservative religious institutions that they don’t even register? Are we so used to church-sponsored homophobia that we ignore the vast, forbidding landscape of prejudice while celebrating the tiniest signs of change?

It made the news, for example, when Pope Francis told the Associated Press recently that homosexuality should not be criminalized, as it is in 67 countries, and urged bishops around the world to recognize everyone’s dignity. Amen.

He noted, however, that homosexuality is still a sin. The Catholic Church will keep calling it a sin, and urging sinners to repent, and it will keep refusing to recognize same-sex marriage or to condone adoption by same-sex parents, but in a way that also totally recognizes their dignity!

(Not for nothing: Where does the pope think those countries first got the idea that homosexuality should be a crime?)

(snip)

The Episcopal Church, for example, now officially sanctions same-sex marriage. And the Albany diocese — well, it’s working on it. A statement on the Episcopal Church website notes: “As with all spiritual journeys, everyone walks at their own pace. Some Episcopal congregations are actively involved in LGBTQ ministry and their arms are open wide; others are more reserved, but their doors are still open to all; some are still wrestling with their beliefs and feelings.”


(snip)

Now, let’s pretend that instead of talking about LGBTQ people, the church was talking about congregations “wrestling with their beliefs and feelings” about Black people. Would our spirit of patient forbearance extend to that?

Not too long ago, many American Christian institutions defended slavery, pointing to Bible verses such as Ephesians 6:5: “Slaves, obey your masters.” They then battled integration and interracial marriage, arguing that God meant for the races to be separated. Bob Jones University, from which the founders of Pensacola Christian College graduated, prohibited interracial dating until 2000.

Homophobic policies are no different — except in that, apparently, people are still more accepting of them.

One day, maybe, the Catholic Church and the Church of England will treat its LGBTQ congregants as equals. Maybe even Pensacola Christian College will evolve. In the meantime, let’s not be fooled by the “religious belief” talk: It’s just old-fashioned bigotry.
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I'm all for freedom from religion. But, let's define religion. Is climate cultism a religion? What about lgbtqeieio? Is that a religion?
 
Guille said:
I'm all for freedom from religion. But, let's define religion.
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Okay. So...define it. And we can discuss your definition.

Is climate cultism a religion? What about lgbtqeieio? Is that a religion?
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In my opinion, neither is even close to being a religion. BUT...let's hear your definition of religion...and we can discuss it.
 
Guille said:
I'm all for freedom from religion. But, let's define religion. Is climate cultism a religion? What about lgbtqeieio? Is that a religion?
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They are not religions. However, the attempt to label them as such is noted as an attempt to deny citizens the other First Amendment right of freedom of expression.
 
Guille said:
If the topic is religion then what a religion is matters quite a bit.
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A person's freedom of religion need not be based on some definition of religion. If a student has a religious objection to saying the pledge in school, he does not have to belong to any defined religion to be exempted (although it makes it easier).

When it comes to various tax breaks the definition of religion becomes more important, but there is no constitutional right to be exempted from taxes for religious reasons.
 
Flash said:
Why does it matter if something is a religion or not? If it is not a religion can we force people to be involved in it?
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So it's basically natural for Christiananality Mohammed pedophilia urinations summarily pronate against a Washington, D.C. born retired WW II staff sergeant to Eisenhower as being Islam with premeditated malice aforethought Freudian slip of SCOTUS Rehnquist Fourth Reich July 9/11 diatribe supreme swastika up Uranus kangaroo court of federal Lynching KKK churchstate of hate fiefdom drug trafficking enforcement as thieving US Constitution Bill of Rights arsonists as "one nation under God with equal justice under law"....
 
saltydancin said:
So it's basically natural for Christiananality Mohammed pedophilia urinations summarily pronate against a Washington, D.C. born retired WW II staff sergeant to Eisenhower as being Islam with premeditated malice aforethought Freudian slip of SCOTUS Rehnquist Fourth Reich July 9/11 diatribe supreme swastika up Uranus kangaroo court of federal Lynching KKK churchstate of hate fiefdom drug trafficking enforcement as thieving US Constitution Bill of Rights arsonists as "one nation under God with equal justice under law"....
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you misquoted the pledge. urinations
 
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