What can we burn of Liberals?

[Diuretic]

almost as bad as flag burning, I saw one burn one time too, sad....so sad.

That one was okay, we saved it even though it was in an isolated town and we didn't have even a volunteer firefighting outfit. The motel burned down but the pub was saved by the townsfolk. It was about getting priorities right.

I feel sad when I see an old pub demolished, that's a deliberate act of vandalism and the trauma can stay with me for days.

 

[Onceler]

Sleep easy, DeMano. You're already doing it, or at least your ilk is.

Maybe you're not burning, but you're chopping, clearing, destroying, destabilizing, eradicating, killing, invading & otherwise treating a planet, country & other countries with as much disregard, disrespect & carelessness as even a heartless/mindless rightie like yourself could hope for in his wildest dreams.

And rest assured - it IS ticking me off.

 

[TheDanold]

Sleep easy, DeMano. You're already doing it, or at least your ilk is.

Maybe you're not burning, but you're chopping, clearing, destroying, destabilizing, eradicating, killing, invading & otherwise treating a planet, country & other countries with as much disregard, disrespect & carelessness as even a heartless/mindless rightie like yourself could hope for in his wildest dreams.

And rest assured - it IS ticking me off.

Are you contending that the number of trees is going down every year?

 

[Onceler]

Are you contending that the number of trees is going down every year?

What a narrow, lame reply. Aren't you always lambasting me for cherrypicking the "weakest part" of your arguments?

The answer is no. I'm contending that you're destroying the fucking planet. Can I be clearer than that, simpleton?

 

[TheDanold]

What a narrow, lame reply. Aren't you always lambasting me for cherrypicking the "weakest part" of your arguments?

The answer is no. I'm contending that you're destroying the fucking planet. Can I be clearer than that, simpleton?

No you aren't clear, be specific.
So another war in Iraq will "destroy the planet"?
Or maybe you are speaking about how a minute (compared to oceans) amount of CO2 released by humans is destroying the planet?
Help me out here, show some guts for once and be specific.

 

[uscitizen]

Why did Dano drop his Toby personna anyway ?

 

[TheDanold]

Why did Dano drop his Toby personna anyway ?

Yes I know you thought I was toby, it shows how beyond stupid you are that you are the only one who thought that.

 

[Onceler]

No you aren't clear, be specific.
So another war in Iraq will "destroy the planet"?
Or maybe you are speaking about how a minute (compared to oceans) amount of CO2 released by humans is destroying the planet?
Help me out here, show some guts for once and be specific.

The Iraq war is destabilizing the entire region for decades to come, and creating a whole generation of terrorists. We are also severing & diminishing alliances we have had for years.

We are simultaneously raping the planet of valuable resources not just in fuel, but in very basic needs like food & water, without any contingency planning or regard for future population increases. The oceans are dying right now; were you aware of that?

Development & expansion are part of life, but we are continuing a course of recklessness on that front that makes very little effort, if any at times, to consider long-term implications of habitat loss, despeciation & loss of resources. We treat the planet like a supermarket.

Carbon emissions & pollutants are actually a small part of the overall equation for the seeds we're sewing right now, but they are significant, and carbon, in particular, is probably the trigger that's going to release all of that earthbound C02 you mention, and really put us in some straits. On that one, I have sort of given up that there is anything we can do at this point.

I could write tomes on this subject, DeMano. You're so short-sighted on any of the issues relating to it, that it's actually kind of sickening. I hope you live a good, long life, just so you can see how insanely wrong you are.

 

[TheDanold]

The Iraq war is destabilizing the entire region for decades to come, and creating a whole generation of terrorists. We are also severing & diminishing alliances we have had for years.

I don't agree, memories are shorter than you think. Remember that Iran and Iraq fought a war right up to 1988 and now they are buddies. We have good relations with Nam right now.
You are just thinking emotionally, rather than trying to resonate your thinking with historical reality.

We are simultaneously raping the planet of valuable resources not just in fuel, but in very basic needs like food & water, without any contingency planning or regard for future population increases.

LOL at "raping the planet", is that what people do when they use it's resources to live? Do beavers, elephants and other animals rape it too? They knock down trees, they consume, seems they have doing fine for awhile.
Try thinking rather than spewing emotional enviro-fearmongering BS.

The oceans are dying right now; were you aware of that?

No they are not.

Development & expansion are part of life, but we are continuing a course of recklessness on that front that makes very little effort, if any at times, to consider long-term implications of habitat loss, despeciation & loss of resources. We treat the planet like a supermarket.

Again, are you contending that the number of trees has gone down? Yes we do treat the planet like a supermarket, supermarkets restock their shelves for future customers, not only do we help restock what we take but the planet naturally restocks a lot.

Carbon emissions & pollutants are actually a small part of the overall equation for the seeds we're sewing right now, but they are significant, and carbon, in particular, is probably the trigger that's going to release all of that earthbound C02 you mention, and really put us in some straits. On that one, I have sort of given up that there is anything we can do at this point.

LOL, I have a question for you Lorax. In prehistoric times, the earth was at points a lot warmer, for example cold-blooded dinosaurs lived as far north as Canada. At that time due to the heat, large amount of CO2 would have been burping from the oceans and if CO2 supposedly traps heat then it would have caused more CO2 to rise and so on, effectively being a perpetual heat increasing model. Yet it did not happen, the earth did not just heat up to neverending degrees where life could not live millions of years ago, why would you contend you would be right about it now when the earth is far cooler and far less methane and CO2 released?

I could write tomes on this subject, DeMano. You're so short-sighted on any of the issues relating to it, that it's actually kind of sickening. I hope you live a good, long life, just so you can see how insanely wrong you are.

You couldn't write anything on this subject and you never have. Yes I will live a good life, despite your attempts at drawing me into your fearing the coming rapture that I must get on my knees and pray for forgiveness for my sins of living a life I love and join with you in promising sacrifice.

So fume away, I'm sure the rest of the Liberal gang will join with you in your bouts to try and out incredulate each other while you delude yourself into thinking you ever presented any argument with any facts.

 

[Onceler]

"LOL, I have a question for you Lorax. In prehistoric times, the earth was at points a lot warmer, for example cold-blooded dinosaurs lived as far north as Canada. At that time due to the heat, large amount of CO2 would have been burping from the oceans and if CO2 supposedly traps heat then it would have caused more CO2 to rise and so on, effectively being a perpetual heat increasing model. Yet it did not happen, the earth did not just heat up to neverending degrees where life could not live millions of years ago, why would you contend you would be right about it now when the earth is far cooler and far less methane and CO2 released?"

This is why I don't waste too much time with you.

Your "science" basically comes from a comic book. Don't you know anything about warming & cooling cycles, and what the potential triggers are for each?

Do you honestly think that the climate that supported the dinosaurs would be an easy one for man to adjust to?

It's really ridiculous trying to go over real factual information with you, when this hopelessly simplistic dinosaur example is the best you can do. I have not, nor will I ever, contend that the earth will heat up to "neverending degrees"; I will, however, contend that we are not suited for temperatures much warmer than this, on a wide variety of levels, and that we will be affected in a fairly dramatic way by the coming changes. They won't "kill us off," but the range of consequences can be put in a category of "less than desirable" pretty easily.

 

[TheDanold]

"LOL, I have a question for you Lorax. In prehistoric times, the earth was at points a lot warmer, for example cold-blooded dinosaurs lived as far north as Canada. At that time due to the heat, large amount of CO2 would have been burping from the oceans and if CO2 supposedly traps heat then it would have caused more CO2 to rise and so on, effectively being a perpetual heat increasing model. Yet it did not happen, the earth did not just heat up to neverending degrees where life could not live millions of years ago, why would you contend you would be right about it now when the earth is far cooler and far less methane and CO2 released?"

This is why I don't waste too much time with you.

Who the fuck are you kidding? You waste a lot of time with me, when I post you're on here practically drooling with a retort. It's just too bad you never have any facts present in it.

Your "science" basically comes from a comic book. Don't you know anything about warming & cooling cycles, and what the potential triggers are for each?

I do know that the strongest argument Gore presented on warming/cooling cycles was a complete lie. The ice core samples he showed, show on closer inspection, an 800 year lag between when it got warmer and THEN CO2 started increasing.
What do you know?

Do you honestly think that the climate that supported the dinosaurs would be an easy one for man to adjust to?

Um yes, do you prefer living in a more tropical climate, do you find it easier?
Why do people prefer living more south and retire in Florida?

It's really ridiculous trying to go over real factual information with you, when this hopelessly simplistic dinosaur example is the best you can do.

I've given you many other examples, studies, facts and questions and you've failed to answer any of them.
Why not answer the question or at least try?

I have not, nor will I ever, contend that the earth will heat up to "neverending degrees";

Bullshit, you're claim of it being "too late" is a clear reference to unstoppable global warming.

I will, however, contend that we are not suited for temperatures much warmer than this, on a wide variety of levels, and that we will be affected in a fairly dramatic way by the coming changes. They won't "kill us off," but the range of consequences can be put in a category of "less than desirable" pretty easily.

No it can't. As the earth has warmed, we have found it easier to live for the most part.

 

[Onceler]

"I do know that the strongest argument Gore presented on warming/cooling cycles was a complete lie. The ice core samples he showed, show on closer inspection, an 800 year lag between when it got warmer and THEN CO2 started increasing.
What do you know?"

You do understand the the authors of the ice core study, for the most part, agree with AGW?


"Bullshit, you're claim of it being "too late" is a clear reference to unstoppable global warming."

This just shows how simplistic your brain is. That doesn't mean "neverending degrees." It means a climate that is not suitable for man, and which threatens sustainability.

You're a child.

 

[TheDanold]

"I do know that the strongest argument Gore presented on warming/cooling cycles was a complete lie. The ice core samples he showed, show on closer inspection, an 800 year lag between when it got warmer and THEN CO2 started increasing.
What do you know?"

You do understand the the authors of the ice core study, for the most part, agree with AGW?

So what, their own chart on closer scrutiny show the opposite effect of CO2.
Why did Gore lie?

"Bullshit, you're claim of it being "too late" is a clear reference to unstoppable global warming."

This just shows how simplistic your brain is. That doesn't mean "neverending degrees." It means a climate that is not suitable for man, and which threatens sustainability.
You're a child.

Sorry, neverending degrees to the point of not being able to live. The bottom line is from my historical question that you ran away from (like you evade everything) is that THAT did not happen.

 

[Onceler]

"Sorry, neverending degrees to the point of not being able to live. The bottom line is from my historical question that you ran away from (like you evade everything) is that THAT did not happen."

Again, who said "neverending degrees to the point of not being able to live? It's impossible to debate with someone who is always twisting words for their own purpose. You're really an idiot, Dano.

As for Gore, I'm not here to defend him. I know that the authors of the ice core study talked about the lag, and also said that this was even more threatening, ultimately. Naturally, we have had warming periods throughout history. The problem with single-minded ideologues like yourself is, you think everything is cut & dry and assume that there is always only ONE trigger for warming, when in fact, there have been a variety of triggers throughout history. Once triggered, the effect exacerbates itself, because even a relatively small degree of warming ends up releasing a much greater quantity of C02 that is naturally locked up at this point.

That's basically what the authors of the study said; they believed the industrial revolution to be the trigger this time around. That's why I don't see any action we take now as having too much of an effect going forward. It's already been triggered.

But please; talk about Gore's sigh, or his exaggerations, or anything else that you can to deflect from the real issue, which is your only agenda on this topic.

 

[Socrtease]

Liberals seem to think it's funny to burn the Constitution and flag (well as long as it's not France's), because they think it pisses off any patriots.

So what can we burn of Liberals that would offend them?
Any ideas?

Why are you so easily offended? If someone burns an american flag, does that diminish this country? If someone burns a copy of the constitution, or wipes his presidential ass on it, does that truly weaken the spirit of the Constitution? The ONLY thing that weakens the Constitution is when the american PEOPLE allow the government to diminish the protections of the Constitution, allow the governement to intrude upon our freedoms and liberties then the Constitution is weakened. Burning it does nothing to it. The THING they burn is just a piece of cloth. The paper that people burn is just a piece of paper with typeset on it. What America IS is not cloth or wood pulp. America and it's freedoms are concepts and ideals that no amount of burning can destroy. You just don't like the fact that when Righties are busy working to overcome the warrant requirements or trying to figure out a nice way to describe torturing someone that people set fire to the cloth and wood pulp to express how worthless the righties have made those protections. Maybe you have a difficult time with symbolism. But the people that usually burn the flag or set fire to a copy of the constitution are the MOST PISSED off about the government doing all it can to weaken the concepts and ideals that men over two hundred years ago stuck their necks out to ensure for us all and now righties are willing to sacrifice for little temporary security.

 

[Socrtease]

Liberals seem to think it's funny to burn the Constitution and flag (well as long as it's not France's), because they think it pisses off any patriots.

So what can we burn of Liberals that would offend them?
Any ideas?

And which Liberals say it is funny to burn them?

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

And which Liberals say it is funny to burn them?

Errrr...

I did...

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

But I was just mocking Dano's false outrage.

I said:

"Yeah, it should be extra credit to burn flags. It should be a federal law."

Then Damo suggested that we burn the Russian flag and the EU constitution, and I responded:

"Naw, I have to much respect for those countries to do that to them. I'd rather burn the American flag and the American constitution."

I was just kidding though.

 

[uscitizen]

But I was just mocking Dano's false outrage.

I said:

"Yeah, it should be extra credit to burn flags. It should be a federal law."

Then Damo suggested that we burn the Russian flag and the EU constitution, and I responded:

"Naw, I have to much respect for those countries to do that to them. I'd rather burn the American flag and the American constitution."

I was just kidding though.

You were just kidding ? And here I thought you had started to come around....

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

You were just kidding ? And here I thought you had started to come around....

lol