What Democracies are more conservatives than the U.S.?

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The intended limitations are being attacked on a daily basis. Ben Franklin said, "We Have Given You A Republic. It Remains To Be Seen If You Will Be Able To Retain It".

Franklin's warning was a predictor of what we have witnessed over the intervening years as the lying thieves, grubbing for power to steal and abuse, continuously chip away at what the Framers gave us.

If the Framers were to come to life today and enter state government as they did in the days of the Revolution, they would likely start another revolution.

All of the Framers knew themselves to be lying thieves and they assumed that the lying thieves around them and the lying thieves who would come after them would be lying thieves who needed to be constrained by a strong and limiting Constitution.

They were right.

We are near to or past the point at which we will soon, or perhaps already have, lost the Republic that Franklin warned us would be difficult to retain.

The erosion began with the FDR administration. Then the educational establishment that has failed to educate and, these days, merely indoctrinates.

Here are it's duties as defined in Article I, Sec. 8; Articles II-V; Amendments XIII-XVI, XIX-XX, XXIII-XXVI.

Defense, war prosecution, peace, foreign relations, foreign commerce, and interstate commerce;
The protection of citizens’ constitutional rights (e.g. the right to vote) and ensuring that slavery remains illegal;
Establishing federal courts inferior to the Supreme Court of the United States;
Copyright protection;
Coining (and printing) money;
Establishing post offices and post roads, a road designated for the transportation of postal mail;
Establishing a national set of universal weights and measures;
Taxation needed to raise revenue to perform these essential functions.


I don't see Department of Agriculture, Education, HHS, Interior, Labor, Housing and Urban Development and Energy as being consistent with those articles and amendments.
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Your ignorance and passion (and profanity) do not change facts. Sorry.

The USA is a Constitutional Republic based on Federalism. Even within our Republic, the various States and Commonwealths that comprise the Republic are REPRESENTATIVE Democracies.

As citizens, we elect representatives to exercise the power(s) of government. Sadly, the folks we elect seem to be lying thieves. That is a problem, but it's a different problem.

Unless one is an elected Representative, we all have an astonishingly limited input into how the USA is governed. If the USA was a Democracy, we would be voting on every decision that is made by government.

We don't. We are NOT a Democracy.

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We are not a direct Democracy. We have a Democratic firm of government.

Apparently you didn't learn a thing in school. Look up Federalism dimwitted wonder dunce. That is why we have an electoral system for choosing our Presidents.

It's obvious you don't know what you are bloviating about. That also explains why you think six people in black robes can invent law from the bench.
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You remind me of the pedantic teacher… “I don’t know, CAN you go to the bathroom?”

You remind me of an uneducated dishonest, brain dead partisan hack. :palm:
 
Are there any Democracies more conservatives than the United States?

So much depends on how you define conservative. Like your list would differ if you meant socially conservative or economically conservative. There are so many sorta-democracies with much more intense theocratic influences than the US (e.g., Israel, Gulf states, parts of Latin America).

In terms of economic conservatism, here's one stat you could use as an index for that: what is the ratio of non-military government spending to GDP in each country? Wealthy democracies tend to fall in a range from just below 30% to just above 50%, with economically liberal places flowing more of their GDP through government social spending.

The most recent figures on that are a bit misleading, since COVID has driven so much policy lately. So I'd argue that we'd do well to look at numbers from before COVID started driving policy so hard. Here's what that data looked like for total government spending at such a time:

https://web.archive.org/web/2020031...s.com/country-list/government-spending-to-gdp

So, after adjusting for 2019 military-spending, non-military government spending was highest in France, at 54.14%, the EU as a whole at 43.8%, and the US was at 34.4%.

Ireland was the lowest of the wealthy democracies, at 25.4%.... though that number is misleading for them, since a lot of Irish GDP isn't really Irish.... it's just earnings of international companies that used accounting tricks to recognize as much revenue in the Irish tax shelter as possible, on paper (e.g., an international company that overpays its own Irish affiliate for services, so that it drives down earnings outside of Ireland and drives them up in Ireland where there will be low taxes). Switzerland and South Korea are probably the best true examples of wealthy democracies with less government spending than the US, 31.7% and 27.57%, respectively.

So, my answer at least among fairly wealthy democracies, would be SK and Switzerland. But, the US is very close... certainly far closer to the bottom of the range than the top. However, if you compare the US to dirt-poor democracies, like India, as well, it looks more middle-of-the-road.

This, by the way, is a good argument for boosting the US's non-military government spending. We KNOW, from ample examples, that it's possible to have a wealthy democracy with much higher non-military government spending as a share of GDP than we have -- and to sustain that. There's no reason to think we'd be entering into a "danger zone" if we boosted our non-military government spending by eight points, for example, since that would still leave us a bit below average by EU standards, and still far below some wealthy countries. By comparison, if we dropped it by eight points, we'd be in a range where no other wealthy nation has sustained besides Ireland, which only did it by way of accounting tricks that overstate its GDP.

To put it in athletic terms, picture if you were training for a marathon and you were wondering whether maybe you should cut back on your training miles, for fear of overtraining and getting hurt, or increase your miles. Well, if you found out that you were already closer to the bottom of the range of mileage than the middle, in terms of the runners you were competing with, and that some good marathoners train vastly more miles than you do, then it suggests you could probably improve with more mileage, and that there's not much risk you're already overtraining. If nearly everyone who trained fewer miles than you was a vastly slower marathoner than you, it would strongly suggest decreasing your miles would hurt your times. Similarly, if nearly every country that spends less of its GDP on government social spending than us is a much poorer country than us, it suggests that moving in their direction is likely to hurt our prosperity.
 
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The erosion began with the FDR administration. Then the educational establishment that has failed to educate and, these days, merely indoctrinates.

Here are it's duties as defined in Article I, Sec. 8; Articles II-V; Amendments XIII-XVI, XIX-XX, XXIII-XXVI.

Defense, war prosecution, peace, foreign relations, foreign commerce, and interstate commerce;
The protection of citizens’ constitutional rights (e.g. the right to vote) and ensuring that slavery remains illegal;
Establishing federal courts inferior to the Supreme Court of the United States;
Copyright protection;
Coining (and printing) money;
Establishing post offices and post roads, a road designated for the transportation of postal mail;
Establishing a national set of universal weights and measures;
Taxation needed to raise revenue to perform these essential functions.


I don't see Department of Agriculture, Education, HHS, Interior, Labor, Housing and Urban Development and Energy as being consistent with those articles and amendments.
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The result(s) of the over reaches by the lying thieves are evident all around and the theft and dishonesty are the most visible product of the Federal Government.

In 1999, it is safe to assume that the lying thieves were lying and stealing.

Despite the FACT that the lying thieves were lying and stealing, their theft increased year by year.

At this point, if the Outlays of the Federal Government had ONLY MATCHED the rate of inflation as defined BY THE FEDS, we would currently have a $7 Trillion Surplus instead of a $30 Trillion Debt.

The difference, $37 Trillion Dollars, is theft.

That's $37 TRILLION stolen over 20 years. On average, that's $58,663 STOLEN EVERY SECOND OF EVERY DAY FOR 20 YEARS. This includes the hours when most of us are asleep.

Judging only by the sorry state of our government, the ONLY THINGS the lying thieves are good at is Theft and Dishonesty.

Everything else is beyond the only skills that our political parties teach them.
 
The result(s) of the over reaches by the lying thieves are evident all around and the theft and dishonesty are the most visible product of the Federal Government.

In 1999, it is safe to assume that the lying thieves were lying and stealing.

Despite the FACT that the lying thieves were lying and stealing, their theft increased year by year.

At this point, if the Outlays of the Federal Government had ONLY MATCHED the rate of inflation as defined BY THE FEDS, we would currently have a $7 Trillion Surplus instead of a $30 Trillion Debt.

The difference, $37 Trillion Dollars, is theft.

That's $37 TRILLION stolen over 20 years. On average, that's $58,663 STOLEN EVERY SECOND OF EVERY DAY FOR 20 YEARS. This includes the hours when most of us are asleep.

Judging only by the sorry state of our government, the ONLY THINGS the lying thieves are good at is Theft and Dishonesty.

Everything else is beyond the only skills that our political parties teach them.

No argument from me here. I agree. :thumbsup:
 
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