What does the New Testament say about homosexuality? Short answer: "Nothing"

LOL.

Still not going to tell us when you decided to be straight? Still a work in progress for you?
Once again, it's NOT about "being straight" but is rather about the specific actions that one chooses to take with regard to one's desires, no matter what those desires may be.

Personally, I have always very easily decided against having sex with other men. The desire has simply never been there (in fact, such action deeply repulses me; I find it to be disgusting), so there's no temptation present nor is there an easy attack vector for Satan or my own sinful nature to take advantage of.

With regard to women, however, I've had a much more difficult time with properly responding to my own desires and to the temptations that I have faced. While successfully avoiding certain temptations, I have still succumbed to numerous other temptations (even to the point of developing habitual sin) and I have repeatedly deviated from God's will, choosing to follow my own will instead (while Satan kept whispering lies and "half-truths" into my ear about how 'doing this or that will bring you pleasure', 'doing this or that just this one time won't be that bad', 'you've already failed (yet again!) at self control, so you might as well just give into your desires a few more times', and etc etc).

While I wish that I would have been a quicker learner, I've still ultimately learned that I can't successfully ward off such intense temptation on my own accord. Instead, I need the Holy Spirit's indwelling, and to rely upon the power of the Holy Spirit in order to successfully navigate such temptation rather than relying upon my own willpower.

With divine assistance, it IS possible to thwart sexually immoral temptations, including the temptation to have sex with other men. With divine assistance, it IS possible to overcome (and to be rewarded for it!) and it IS possible to enjoy eternal life with God.
 
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Once again, it's NOT about "being straight"

Only because I pointed out something that makes your point ridiculous and you know it. Which is why you are running away from it.

IF IT IS A CHOICE FOR ONE PERSON THEN IT IS A CHOICE FOR ALL PEOPLE. You included.

If you don't want to answer the question I'll know why. As will you.


Personally, I have always very easily decided against having sex with other men.

What are the reasons, specifically? Since you put some effort into it.


The desire has simply never been there

But you think it's there for others and THEY have to struggle to overcome it. While YOU were blessed by GOD to be without the temptation.

Why are YOU superior?

With divine assistance, it IS possible to thwart sexually immoral temptations, including the temptation to have sex with other men. With divine assistance, it IS possible to overcome (and to be rewarded for it!) and it IS possible to enjoy eternal life with God.

So one needs divine assistance to overcome that which the Divine caused to exist so that you don't get punished eternally by the Divine.

What a great faith. So comforting. If you happened to be born the right way.
 
Lie. See Matthew 19. See John 1. See 2nd Timothy 3.
It is obvious that Maggot simply wants to discard the entire gospel, and the Bible with it. She thinks word games will save her.
What a prison she has built for herself. She is miserable, as evidenced by the constant need to denounce the gospel and the Bible and play word games to justify sexual deviancy. She is not gay like you and I are. We abhor homosexual behavior.
 
Only because I pointed out something that makes your point ridiculous and you know it. Which is why you are running away from it.

IF IT IS A CHOICE FOR ONE PERSON THEN IT IS A CHOICE FOR ALL PEOPLE. You included.

If you don't want to answer the question I'll know why. As will you.
You aren't asking a question.
What are the reasons, specifically? Since you put some effort into it.
Reason for what?
But you think it's there for others and THEY have to struggle to overcome it. While YOU were blessed by GOD to be without the temptation.

Why are YOU superior?
Because he was blessed by God. You said so yourself.
So one needs divine assistance to overcome that which the Divine caused to exist so that you don't get punished eternally by the Divine.
A nonsense statement. Try learning English.
What a great faith. So comforting. If you happened to be born the right way.
What do you consider to be born the 'wrong' way??
 
Only because I pointed out something that makes your point ridiculous and you know it. Which is why you are running away from it.

IF IT IS A CHOICE FOR ONE PERSON THEN IT IS A CHOICE FOR ALL PEOPLE. You included.

If you don't want to answer the question I'll know why. As will you.
I directly answered your question re: when I decided to be straight, even "taking you to school" on it, and you know it, which is why you continue to pretend that I never did so.

I've already explained to you how/why so-called "being straight" or so-called "being homosexual" is irrelevant. What matters instead is one's actions (more specifically, how one responds to one's desires/temptations), rather than the mere existence of the desires/temptations themselves.

IOW, you keep fixating on the fact that there happens to be some men in existence who happen to experience sexual desires towards other men. I agree with you there, but so what? The issue isn't with the presence of the desire itself, but rather how one CHOOSES to respond to the presence of the desire. Those men can choose to have sex with other men, succumbing to their desire, or they can choose to NOT have sex with other men, fleeing from their desire. The choice is theirs.

If they keep succumbing to a sin that they don't wish to succumb to (and feel guilty about it), then they can pray to God, repent of their sin, and ask God to provide his Holy Spirit to indwell them and give them the strength to resist future temptation to sin.

Let's say that, for whatever reason, you experience a desire to steal money from your brother. Are you telling me that, because of that desire's existence, you now have no choice but to steal money from your brother?

Like I've been repeatedly saying to you, it doesn't matter whether or not one is capable of controlling the specific desires that one experiences. What matters instead is how one chooses to respond to the presence of those desires. --- You don't HAVE to steal money from your brother simply because you experience a desire to do so. Likewise, a man doesn't HAVE to have sex with another man simply because he experiences a desire to do so. It's all about how you choose to respond to the desire. If you struggle with following God's will, then ask God to help you do so.
What are the reasons, specifically? Since you put some effort into it.
I've already told you why. There is nothing good/fruitful that results from homosexuality and it only leads to physical and spiritual harm. I'd rather feel gay instead of feeling miserable.
But you think it's there for others
You've been consistently asserting that it is there for others, and I have agreed with you.
and THEY have to struggle to overcome it.
Right. That desire belongs to THEM; only THEY can choose how to respond to it. I have no control over their choices; I only have control over my own.
While YOU were blessed by GOD to be without the temptation.
Assigning bogus positions to me, eh? I already told you about some temptations that I have faced, how I've struggled with them, and what I've ultimately learned from struggling with them.
Why are YOU superior?
I'm not. I've already made this quite clear by explaining how I've likewise struggled with my own desires and temptations.
So one needs divine assistance to overcome that which the Divine caused to exist so that you don't get punished eternally by the Divine.
Incorrect. "The Divine" didn't cause you to choose your own will over his; YOU caused it.
What a great faith. So comforting.
It truly is! It makes me feel very gay inside knowing that I have a Savior who lived the perfect life that I was incapable of living, yet CHOSE to suffer death on a cross in MY place for MY sins, and resurrected from the dead, defeating death, so that now (by grace, through faith) I have access to eternal life with him.
If you happened to be born the right way.
I've already explained to you why it doesn't matter how one is born. I didn't know that there was a "right" or "wrong" way to be born. What's the "right" way?
 
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I directly answered your question, even "taking you to school" on it, and you know it, which is why you continue to pretend that I never did so.

I've already explained to you how/why so-called "being straight" or so-called "being homosexual" is irrelevant. What matters instead is one's actions (more specifically, how one responds to one's desires/temptations), rather than the mere existence of the desires/temptations themselves.

IOW, you keep fixating on the fact that there happens to be some men in existence who happen to experience sexual desires towards other men. I agree with you there, but so what? The issue isn't with the presence of the desire itself, but rather how one CHOOSES to respond to the presence of the desire. Those men can choose to have sex with other men, succumbing to their desire, or they can choose to NOT have sex with other men, fleeing from their desire. The choice is theirs.

If they keep succumbing to a sin that they don't wish to succumb to (and feel guilty about it), then they can pray to God, repent of their sin, and ask God to provide his Holy Spirit to indwell them and give them the strength to resist future temptation to sin.

Let's say that, for whatever reason, you experience a desire to steal money from your brother. Are you telling me that, because of that desire's existence, you now have no choice but to steal money from your brother?

Like I've been repeatedly saying to you, it doesn't matter whether or not one is capable of controlling the specific desires that one experiences. What matters instead is how one chooses to respond to the presence of those desires. --- You don't HAVE to steal money from your brother simply because you experience a desire to do so. Likewise, a man doesn't HAVE to have sex with another man simply because he experiences a desire to do so. It's all about how you choose to respond to the desire. If you struggle with following God's will, then ask God to help you do so.

I've already told you why. There is nothing good/fruitful that results from homosexuality and it only leads to physical and spiritual harm. I'd rather feel gay instead of feeling miserable.

You've been consistently asserting that it is there for others, and I have agreed with you.

Right. That desire belongs to THEM; only THEY can choose how to respond to it. I have no control over their choices; I only have control over my own.

Assigning bogus positions to me, eh? I already told you about some temptations that I have faced, how I've struggled with them, and what I've ultimately learned from struggling with them.

I'm not. I've already made this quite clear by explaining how I've likewise struggled with my own desires and temptations.

Incorrect. "The Divine" didn't cause you to choose your own will over his; YOU caused it.

It truly is! It makes me feel very gay inside knowing that I have a Savior who lived the perfect life that I was incapable of living, yet CHOSE to suffer death on a cross in MY place for MY sins, and resurrected from the dead, defeating death, so that now (by grace, through faith) I have access to eternal life with him.

I've already explained to you why it doesn't matter how one is born. I didn't know that there was a "right" or "wrong" way to be born. What's the "right" way?

Hey, if you want to have a logically inconsistent position on this I say "Go right ahead".
 
What part of my response was "logically inconsistent"? Why is that?

A God who allows YOU to be born "normal" but forces gay people to "choose" to be straight and then decrees the way they were born to be an abomination.

As usual I find you are the "lucky" one and the ebil homos are the unlucky ones who had to choose.
 
A God who allows YOU to be born "normal" but forces gay people to "choose" to be straight and then decrees the way they were born to be an abomination.
I have no idea what you're trying to say. It's irrelevant whether someone is born via vaginal delivery (more common) or via c-section (less common). What does "being straight" mean, and why are only happy people forced to choose to be whatever that is? You're not making any sense.
As usual I find you are the "lucky" one and the ebil homos are the unlucky ones who had to choose.
As usual, you still aren't making any sense.
 
But I'm not in the closet like you.

Free yourself. Be yourself. Suck a dick if that is what you want.

Why would I be afraid of gay people?

these morons really think those marketing scams they're told to parrot will make people all skeered n stuff to criticize their idiot fake science. lol they're idiots.

Anybody still claiming homos are 'born that way' are seriously far behind the times and facts.
 
I have no idea what you're trying to say.

Let me say it very slowly for you:

1. You think sexual attraction is a matter of choice for gay people.
2. You don't feel like YOU had to make a choice to be straight
3. ERGO: You believe gay people were born with the requirement to choose their sexuality but you were born "normal" and didn't have to choose.
4. God decrees that gay relations are an "abomination"

What this means is you worship a God who put a stumbling block in front of gay people that he didn't force you to have to go over.

Yet we are told this God loves all people and would NEVER create someone for the express purposes of torturing them forever
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That makes your God logically inconsistent.


 
Anybody still claiming homos are 'born that way' are seriously far behind the times and facts.

Maybe some day (when you are "exploring" the urges you currently feel) you'll be in a gay bar somewhere and you can ask a REAL GAY PERSON what they think about "choice" of sexual attraction.

Oh yeah and your buddies in the "Christian DeConversion Class"? Yeah, they aren't straight. They're just fighting their nature every minute of every day so that God won't send them to hell to torture them forever.
 
I have no idea what you're trying to say. It's irrelevant whether someone is born via vaginal delivery (more common) or via c-section (less common). What does "being straight" mean, and why are only happy people forced to choose to be whatever that is? You're not making any sense.

As usual, you still aren't making any sense.

He's trying to say he gets hysterical when homos aren't treated like a master race or something, and if you criticize them well them you're a homo too, some cognitively dissonant bullshit like that.
 
Maybe some day (when you are "exploring" the urges you currently feel) you'll be in a gay bar somewhere and you can ask a REAL GAY PERSON what they think about "choice" of sexual attraction.

lol you mean we should ask mentally ill fetishists if they think their sickness is 'normal n stuff'??? lol you're really silly.
Oh yeah and your buddies in the "Christian DeConversion Class"? Yeah, they aren't straight. They're just fighting their nature every minute of every day so that God won't send them to hell to torture them forever.

lol you really hate those uppity xians, eh? Hey, if sucking dicks and taking it up the ass bothers you and obviously makes you feel bad, just stop doing it.
 
Actually no, I find FAKE Christians to be repulsive.

lol you don't know any. They terrify you, like they do all deviants and fetishists. You don't have any knowledge that would allow you to even determine if they're fake or not.

Now run along; Douche will be happy to 'breast feed' you and make you feel 'loved'.
 
lol you really hate those uppity xians, eh? Hey, if sucking dicks and taking it up the ass bothers you and obviously makes you feel bad, just stop doing it.
Actually no, I find FAKE Christians to be repulsive.
Agreed. They are the equivalent of snakeoil salesmen. Charlatans. They lie about their beliefs for political reasons to undermine the rights of others. They are evil.

One way to tell is when they use a phrase like "uppity xians". Another way is to read their posts to see if they follow the tenets of Christianity.

Example: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=xtian
xtian
abbreviated form of Christian, often used as a derogatory term by Satanists, militant Atheists, etc. It is derived from the use of X as an abbreviation for Christ, as in Xmas. Strictly speaking, this rule dictates it be spelled "xian," but it is spelled "xtian" to avoid confusion with the city of Xian,China.
Satanist(online): "Modern society has such a disregard for the living world. I blame the xtian scum!"
by IntestinePoet May 31, 2007
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people who claim to be followers of Jesus Christ, but have a pattern of behavior that is contradictory to the teachings of Christ.

a christian in name only.

a religious person who lacks empathy.

a religious person who is not to be trusted.

Unlike the rest of her gossiping xtian coworkers, Sarah didn't think that yelling racist insults at a Trump rally was what Jesus would do.
 
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