I clarified that much earlier in the thread that I was talking about the worship space, because I was comparing my experience to the painting. The painting clearly shows a flag displayed in the worship space.
I've seen flag poles outside churches.
What does this painting mean to you?
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I've seen flag poles outside churches.
christiefan915
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My point is that the days of the week weren't named in the Bible, just numbered. So the seventh day could have been given any name. A human being decided the name of the seventh day would be Saturday, just like another human being wanted the day of rest to be Sunday. The Romans didn't start using names for the days until the 3rd century. And in the end, why does it matter?
I don't read posts by IBDaMan, he's a nut job.
So in your VAST experience there are no churches that display American flags. God wants us to be good citizens
Matt 22:21 They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.
No, I actually said in my very first post that I never saw a flag in the worship space of a church, and it took you three posts to finally agree with me that the practice is rare.
The whole church is a worship space. We pray in EVERY room of our church.
You missed my point. God defined the 7th day as the Sabbath and he gave how to observe it in the 4th commandment. We know Christ lived a sinless life. We also know Christ was a Jew and observed the 7th day in harmony with God's law. Jews all over the world still observe the same 7th day Sabbath as Christ did. So if we observe the same day that they observe today it is still the 7th day Sabbath that Christ observed over 2000 years ago. What we call the 7th day in our language does not make any difference the 7th day is still the Sabbath.
Here are some examples on what the 7th day that we call Saturday is called around the world
Spanish: sábado
Italian: sabato
Portuguese: sábado
Polish: sobota
Greek: Σάββατο
Romanian: sâmbătă
Czech: sobota
Slovak: sobota
Croatian: subota
Slovenian: sobota
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I'm not playing word games with you. Look at the painting. It's the room, the sanctuary, the nave, the 'whatever you want to call it' that has pews, and where the sermon, communion, and liturgy takes place.
christiefan915
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The Sabbath was for a day of rest, right? You're saying that for your denomination the Sabbath is Saturday; I'm saying for mine (and mainstream protestantism) it's Sunday. Somebody in my group chose Sunday as the day of rest and to re-celebrate the Resurrection. My point is not what you call it, but what you do with it. It seems to me that your point is more about putting a name to the seventh day, rather than observing what the day stands for.
You need to respond to what I actually wrote, not to what you wish I wrote -->
Indeed…excellent summation of these far left loons who hate America.
The problem is the Church is supposed to take his message to the whole world. That takes the effort of an organization.
Rev 14:6
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And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
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Rev 14:7
Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
Rev 14:8
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And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
IBDaMann
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... or Catholic.
Omniscience fallacy. You claim to avoid more than anyone on this board.
That sounds like an admission of deliberate blindness and of willful ignorance.
Find a topic about which you are somewhat familiar.
So you are saying these churches don't do it.
"And I have made the rounds; I've been to Methodist, Presbyterian, Episcopalian, Evangelical, Lutheran, Unitarian, Quaker, Catholic, and Orthodox services."
^^Baptist
^^Episcopal
^^^ Methodist
^^^St. Vincent de Paul
Which will never happen, there are so many more lifeforms out there than the ones here on this planet. We will never even complete the first commandment (to classify and name all the animals) until we can get off this miniscule rock and start moving throughout the Universe...
And I'm saying you aren't following God's word you are following MAN'S word.
You can choose to honor the Resurrection if you want but that is not what God wants. Think about this. During Christ's death the ONLY full day he rested was on the Sabbath.
It is a simple choice follow man or follow God.
You say almost all Catholics and Protestants observe the 1st day of the week(Sunday) and you are correct. Being in the majority does not make you right.
Mat 7:14
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Fortunately he limited it to
earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
kin·dred
/ˈkindrəd/
noun
- one's family and relations.
AND to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,Fortunately he limited it to
earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
kin·dred
/ˈkindrəd/
noun
- one's family and relations.
Notice AND there... It says to go to all the Earth AND... It is including more. Or do you think God Himself has no idea that there rest of the Universe is out there? You know, according to your religion, He created it right?
This is not limited to this planet. Unless you think that God somehow only created this one and not the trillions of other planets out there.
Meaning you are sticking with your blind guess no matter what?
I accept your tacit admission that I never claimed that it never happens.
I also accept your tacit admission I have been to a far broader range of Protestant, Catholic, Orthodox services than you ever have, or ever will.
Posting random Google images isn't proof this practice is widely employed.
Even Damocles agreed with me that political flags in the sanctuary space is not a common practice.
Is that what they throw into the grave on top of the casket these days?
Where do they get it?
And...no virgins for you guys?