What ever the outcome of '24, the GOP, DEM, MSM brands are all used up!

[Kurmugeon]

With all the negative ads, false accusations, lawfare, exposed corruption, abuse of govt. power, personal attacks...

What ever the outcome of the 2024 election cycle, the Brands of the Democrats and the Republicans, are all used up. The Trust is Gone!

By 2028 a majority of Americans will be independents, and most people will not get their news from the current big names in the MSM.

I think Many Americans will switch their registration to Independent, and then simply stop voting, in a system which is so clearly corrupt.

Oh, the Loud Mouths of the Woke will still be spewing, but they are 0.001% of the population.

The 99.999% of the working class, will simply be stock piling, training, not spending on anything not survival oriented, and staying silent, waiting for the trigger that brings the collapse. Pay for Netflix? WHY? A vacation? When? With What?

No working person will trust the Uniparty, the courts, or the MSM.

No working person will care how many 1%er owned companies will go bankrupt.

Work hard? Why? To provide for the Elites, Illegals and Muslim Imports?

To Pay for the Board Member's multi-million annual bonus? To pay for the Free Phones, Hotel Rooms, Health Care and Education for the Illegals? To pay the Jizya ?

To pay for Reparations because you have a superficial similar appearance to someone who did something bad 200 years before you were born?

Are we going to arrest and hang for stage-coach robbery, anyone who looks a bit like Jesse James did? Inherited criminal guilt and debt? Guilt by similar appearance?

The Trust is gone.

It will be the calm before the collapse.

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[Daylight63]

With all the negative ads, false accusations, lawfare, exposed corruption, abuse of govt. power, personal attacks...

What ever the outcome of the 2024 election cycle, the Brands of the Democrats and the Republicans, are all used up. The Trust is Gone!

By 2028 a majority of Americans will be independents, and most people will not get their news from the current big names in the MSM.

I think Many Americans will switch their registration to Independent, and then simply stop voting, in a system which is so clearly corrupt.

Oh, the Loud Mouths of the Woke will still be spewing, but they are 0.001% of the population.

The 99.999% of the working class, will simply be stock piling, training, not spending on anything not survival oriented, and staying silent, waiting for the trigger that brings the collapse. Pay for Netflix? WHY? A vacation? When? With What?

No working person will trust the Uniparty, the courts, or the MSM.

No working person will care how many 1%er owned companies will go bankrupt.

Work hard? Why? To provide for the Elites, Illegals and Muslim Imports?

To Pay for the Board Member's multi-million annual bonus? To pay for the Free Phones, Hotel Rooms, Health Care and Education for the Illegals? To pay the Jizya ?

To pay for Reparations because you have a superficial similar appearance to someone who did something bad 200 years before you were born?

Are we going to arrest and hang for stage-coach robbery, anyone who looks a bit like Jesse James did? Inherited criminal guilt and debt? Guilt by similar appearance?

The Trust is gone.

It will be the calm before the collapse.

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So is the solution to this electing a man who explicitly admires Hitler, is friends with just about every authoritarian dictator all over the globe and whose own rhetoric constantly screams of Naziism?

I think there has to be a middle path.

But I also can appreciate that this post of yours is a "wishlist" for what you hope will happen to the Left. We on the Left have a similar wishlist. At the top of it is that the GOP will fracture and allow the re-establishment of a rational and reasonable opposition party.

But that isn't how it will work out. We've already crossed some Rubicon and now I fear the only way back is through some super painful lessons.

This is the ebb and flow of history.

Only 50% of America will be surprised by the outcome.

 

[Yakuda]

So is the solution to this electing a man who explicitly admires Hitler, is friends with just about every authoritarian dictator all over the globe and whose own rhetoric constantly screams of Naziism?

I think there has to be a middle path.

But I also can appreciate that this post of yours is a "wishlist" for what you hope will happen to the Left. We on the Left have a similar wishlist. At the top of it is that the GOP will fracture and allow the re-establishment of a rational and reasonable opposition party.

But that isn't how it will work out. We've already crossed some Rubicon and now I fear the only way back is through some super painful lessons.

This is the ebb and flow of history.

Only 50% of America will be surprised by the outcome.

It's people as stupid as you that have pushed us to where we are today as a country.

 

[Daylight63]

It's people as stupid as you that have pushed us to where we are today as a country.

Please let everyone know you think a US Marine Corps General with the Distinguished Service Medal, whose own son died in combat for America is a "stupid" liar.

Why do you hate America's men and women in uniform?

 

[Yakuda]

Please let everyone know you think a US Marine Corps General with the Distinguished Service Medal, whose own son died in combat for America is a "stupid" liar.

Why do you hate America's men and women in uniform?

Oh you're offended by my calling him a "stupid" liar? Would you prefer "ignorant" liar? Or are you suggesting that, "...a US Marine Corps General with the Distinguished Service Medal, whose own son died in combat for America..." couldn't possibly lie?

I don't hate America or the military I despise you're stupidity.

 

[Daylight63]

Oh you're offended by my calling him a "stupid" liar? Would you prefer "ignorant" liar? Or are you suggesting that, "...a US Marine Corps General with the Distinguished Service Medal, whose own son died in combat for America..." couldn't possibly lie?

I don't hate America or the military I despise you're stupidity.

As you wish.

When I am faced with a choice between believing a decorated Marine Corp general whose own son died in service to my country or a man who spends most of his time calling Americans "vermin", "cockroaches" and "the enemy within" and whose only service to this country was employing a doctor to get him out of Vietnam I think I'll believe the decorated Marine Corp general.

Obviously you have different preferences.

 

[Kurmugeon]

As you wish.

When I am faced with a choice between believing a decorated Marine Corp general whose own son died in service to my country or a man who spends most of his time calling Americans "vermin", "cockroaches" and "the enemy within" and whose only service to this country was employing a doctor to get him out of Vietnam I think I'll believe the decorated Marine Corp general.

Obviously you have different preferences.

I was the man on the moon before Neil Armstrong. I said it on the internet, so it must be true.

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[NiftyNiblick]

People who are too absorbed with their personal lives to even care about social concerns are inherently inferior people.
Those who make excuses for them are very near behind.
When they become the majority, a civilization falls.

Let's see if ours is on the precipice of collapsing.
If Trump wins, then it's already happened.
If Harris wins but doesn't get a cooperative congress, it's almost there anyway.

 

[MAGA]

Please let everyone know you think a US Marine Corps General with the Distinguished Service Medal, whose own son died in combat for America is a "stupid" liar.

I don't think he's stupid but he's a liar. Trump knows better than to say things like that even if he felt them around a certain audience.

So it's possible Trump slipped and said something and forgot who was listening. We all do that. Ok let's say that's true for the sake of argument.

But when the guy said he did it on more than one occasion I knew he was lying. We tend not to make mistakes like that twice. By "tend" I mean we are damned careful. And Trump has these skills for sure.

Yes he's a lying POS I don't care what he did for a living. Once TDS is involved all bets are off.

 

[Yakuda]

As you wish.

When I am faced with a choice between believing a decorated Marine Corp general whose own son died in service to my country or a man who spends most of his time calling Americans "vermin", "cockroaches" and "the enemy within" and whose only service to this country was employing a doctor to get him out of Vietnam I think I'll believe the decorated Marine Corp general.

Obviously you have different preferences.

Yeah we do have different preferences and unlike you I'm not a brain dead idiot who thinks people with fancy titles can't lie. What amazes me even more is you morons think because trump lies no one else can. You're a moron

 

[MAGA]

People who are too absorbed with their personal lives to even care about social concerns are inherently inferior people.
Those who make excuses for them are very near behind.
When they become the majority, a civilization falls.

Let's see if ours is on the precipice of collapsing.
If Trump wins, then it's already happened.
If Harris wins but doesn't get a cooperative congress, it's almost there anyway.

This civilization has already failed and is in the process of being rebuilt. You are in the denial stage of grief about it.

 

[zymurgy]

Please let everyone know you think a US Marine Corps General with the Distinguished Service Medal, whose own son died in combat for America is a "stupid" liar.

Why do you hate America's men and women in uniform?

being a member of any branch of the service does not exempt a person from being a mouth breathing moron

that you think it does is pretty telling to be frank, Frank.

 

[Kurmugeon]

I think I said in the OP, it doesn't matter who "Wins/Steals" in 2024...


The process has poisoned the Trust!


And, we have 2M unvetted Muslims, and 22Million other illegals from just the Biden years, many of whom are military aged males from Hostile foreign nations, and they are costing the American Tax Payer an average of $65,000 per year per person (CBO) .


65K X 24M = ... do the math! Per YEAR! Do the math yourself, so you believe it!


If we don't deport them, they will bankrupt U.S.!

 

[Daylight63]

I was the man on the moon before Neil Armstrong. I said it on the internet, so it must be true.

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Yes, we have established that MAGA distrusts our country's men and women in uniform and holds them in disdain if they speak out against Trump.

 

[Kurmugeon]

Yes, we have established that MAGA distrusts our country's men and women in uniform and holds them in disdain if they speak out against Trump.

I don't see any uniform on you. And my Space Suit Trumps *sic your uniform anyway.

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[Daylight63]

being a member of any branch of the service does not exempt a person from being a mouth breathing moron

So you trust the man who dodged the Draft in Vietnam and distrust the man who served with honor and distinction and whose son died in service to this country?

All things being equal that sounds like you might have a messed up sense of direction.

that you think it does is pretty telling to be frank, Frank.

Trump lies. You like the lies so you support Trump. Kelly isn't the only person who has said these things about Trump. And we've all watched in real time as Trump has publicly said things like "the enemy within" "poisoning our blood" "vermin" and "cockroaches". He took time during a public debate to knowingly pass along a LIE about an ethnic group. He even said IN PUBLIC that he'd be willing to consider using troops against US citizens.

You think that's a great political position? Good for you. You think that person will care about YOU if you are found to be "of questionable loyalty" at some point? LOL. I have some exciting news for you.

 

[Daylight63]

Yeah we do have different preferences and unlike you I'm not a brain dead idiot who thinks people with fancy titles can't lie. What amazes me even more is you morons think because trump lies no one else can. You're a moron

OK. I understand. You love Trump and he could literally fuck a puppy to death on 5th Avenue in front of 1000 cameras and you'd deny it happened. Got it.

 

[zymurgy]

So you trust the man who dodged the Draft in Vietnam and distrust the man who served with honor and distinction and whose son died in service to this country?

yep. I don't trust people that cry they were groped 12 days before an election or those that break Godwin's law 12 days before the election

I also don't trust or believe people that pretend to be new - but act like every other shit stain sock puppet on this forum has acted for the last 3.5 years

you aren't original or new or honest - you are Hume or one of the other retards that people laugh at and stopped debating long ago

 

[Daylight63]

yep. I don't trust people that cry they were groped 12 days before an election or those that break Godwin's law 12 days before the election

I also don't trust or believe people that pretend to be new - but act like every other shit stain sock puppet on this forum has acted for the last 3.5 years

you aren't original or new or honest - you are Hume or one of the other retards that people laugh at and stopped debating long ago

As you wish.

 

[zymurgy]

^in hindsight - this new sock puppet is a Dutch Oven variant

same retarded behavior that will soon go on ignore