Daylight63
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Who's Dutch Oven?
What ever the outcome of '24, the GOP, DEM, MSM brands are all used up!
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Who's Dutch Oven?
in you and his case, it is more about what a dutch oven is
it's the smell of you entering a thread. it lingers
A weapon of mass distraction.
I note no one is addressing the subject of the OP. But lots of talk about Daylight...
The point I was making in the OP, was that due to the damage done by the 2024 election process, no matter who wins, the American political landscape is now significantly damaged.
We will be far less able to openly discuss, and come up with solutions, to the enormous problems created by the Biden administration, because Biden and his administration, then the lawfare lefties, and Harris, have significantly damaged: Free Speech, the Respect for the Courts, the Rule-of-Law, and loaded our nation down the with the costs of carrying millions of illegal immigrants who consume much, and so far, contribute nothing but fraud votes.
It is almost as if the Democratic Party has become completely under the control of a hate-filled, lawless, deep funded, enemy foreign nation... or six.
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I note no one is addressing the subject of the OP. But lots of talk about Daylight...
The point I was making in the OP, was that due to the damage done by the 2024 election process, no matter who wins, the American political landscape is now significantly damaged.
We will be far less able to openly discuss, and come up with solutions, to the enormous problems created by the Biden administration, because Biden and his administration, then the lawfare lefties, and Harris, have significantly damaged: Free Speech, the Respect for the Courts, the Rule-of-Law, and loaded our nation down the with the costs of carrying millions of illegal immigrants who consume much, and so far, contribute nothing but fraud votes.
It is almost as if the Democratic Party has become completely under the control of a hate-filled, lawless, deep funded, enemy foreign nation... or six.
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Boring nonsense from a Trump fascist.^^
Why thank you Hume, that's the nicest thing any one has said to me all day.
By the way, How's your Yemenese Camel-Bride?
Daylight63
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Hmmm. Only been here a bit. Not sure how you have amassed sufficient data to draw a meaningful conclusion.
As you wish, though.
back to ignore
Shhhhhh, Hume and the Mrs Camel must be expecting, and he's not getting enough sleep.
I've heard that Camel "Morning Sickness" goes on 24/7 for several months...
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Daylight63
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I agree that this election and the last 8 years have come close to completely destabilizing the American polity. I think I disagree with you on what the actual cause is.
Problems created by Biden. I'm working on figuring out what that is. During his presidency the inflation rate has returned to near normal, the market has never been hotter, manufacturing jobs have been gained, unemployment seems to be relatively OK. I will grant that the residual issues from the inflationary spike caused by the COVID shutdown ARE a significant burden on a lot of Americans.
Not everything can be perfect. If my 401k holds, though, I will be a very happy American.
Lawfare indicates that the DOJ is being used against Trump but not against the Left. There's no evidence of that. Hunter Biden was convicted. So that hypothesis is kaput.
Respect for the courts? So the MAGA folks who despise an American court decision because it didn't go their way respect the courts?
Rule of Law usually would indicate that a man convicted of dozens of felonies awaiting sentencing which could land him in jail would not be able to run for President.
With the minor exception of the fact that there is ZERO evidence of systemic voter fraud by illegals. Why on earth would an illegal risk being deported by trying to vote in an election?
Also as far as your theory that they contribute "nothing" I have to wonder where you think America's vegetables and fruit come from. And if they contribute NOTHING then why are there so many Americans picking up illegal day labor at the Home Depot parking lot every single day of every year? And why would American companies employ them at all?
Or, hear me out, you could be deluded.
My concern is that we are headed toward a societal collapse, and the very mechanisms which might be able to find solutions, have been shut down by TDS, combined with hostile foreign nations meddling win our political system, to insure that in the general election, we always get choose between two BAD choices.
Allot of the time, the good, and no matter how good, they are human, and have flaws and frailties, are destroyed by deliberate campaigns of cancellation by foreign enemies. The honey traps set up by Epstein were funded by hostile foreign nations. They eliminated a number of good people, who had very human flaws, which were expertly exploited by foreign agents.
Huma Abiden... Fang Fang... Hana Koecher... the list is way too long to even outline here.
There are many other techniques in use, not just the Honey-Trap. The false-accusation of Sexual Harassment is probably even more common than the Honey Trap.
This "Elimination of the Good People" tactic is not just happening in politics and high level appointed government officials, but is also true in our national labs, military leadership, pharmaceutical research companies, and TLAs.
Does anybody really think that John Brennan, John Bolden, or Eric Holder, were wise choices?
Well, in hindsight, we now know that all three of those individuals were largely selected by campaigns funded and driven by hostile foreign nations.
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Allot of the time, the good, and no matter how good, they are human, and have flaws and frailties, are destroyed by deliberate campaigns of cancellation by foreign enemies. The honey traps set up by Epstein were funded by hostile foreign nations. They eliminated a number of good people, who had very human flaws, which were expertly exploited by foreign agents.
Huma Abiden... Fang Fang... Hana Koecher... the list is way too long to even outline here.
There are many other techniques in use, not just the Honey-Trap. The false-accusation of Sexual Harassment is probably even more common than the Honey Trap.
This "Elimination of the Good People" tactic is not just happening in politics and high level appointed government officials, but is also true in our national labs, military leadership, pharmaceutical research companies, and TLAs.
Does anybody really think that John Brennan, John Bolden, or Eric Holder, were wise choices?
Well, in hindsight, we now know that all three of those individuals were largely selected by campaigns funded and driven by hostile foreign nations.
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Daylight63
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Do you see any role for the rhetoric coming from the Right?
If I agree that the Left has rhetoric that is possibly destabilizing, would you agree that the Right, equally does?
Why is it wrong for the Left to say "Trump sounds like HItler" when Trump uses Hitler phrases against Americans like calling them "vermin" and "the enemy within"?
If we on the Left would agree to STOP comparing Trump to Hitler could the Right agree to have Trump stop sounding like Hitler and expressing admiration for Hitler?
Call it a TRUCE!
Or are we on the Left supposed to just stay quiet and your guy gets to say and do whatever he wants?
T. A. Gardner
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Daylight63
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Several witnesses including a decorated Marine Corps general told us he admires Hitler.
If you have to deny the word of everyone on earth to support Trump you might be on the wrong side of history.
If you like his Hitlerian rhetoric at least be man enough to admit it.
But don't piss on our legs and tell us its raining. We aren't as stupid as your side appears to be.
T. A. Gardner
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Several of their staff have now said, unequivocally, they're lying. Given other top officials having lied against Trump in the past, I'm not taking their word for it. You have to do better. Let's see some vetted video or the like.
The Cancel Culture, like the Identity Politics Culture are both fatally Toxic to any civilized society.
There two precepts of Western Law which have been a part of the JUSTICE of America, from the times before the creation of Constitution and the Bill of Rights:
1] You cannot inherent Criminal Guilt or Debt
2] You cannot be convicted of a crime, because you belong to the same Ethnicity or Race, as someone else of the same Ethnicity or Race, who committed a crime sometime in the past. IOW Similar Appearance Criminal Convection is not allowed.
Well, Cancel Culture and Identity Politics are fundamentally based on over-turning those two Legal Precepts.
And it destroys the TRUST needed to make a functional society!
It doesn't matter which side wins or steals, the damage to our society is being done in the Process of our election system being converted from one with protections, like the two above Legal Precepts, to a society which CANNOT live harmoniously.
We doomed for the nation to collapse into low productivity, distrust, hate-filled divisions, riots, looting, assault, and eventual civil war without a number of basic, logical, fundamental legal/societal precepts.
Where in the hell did Identity Politics come from anyway? Answer: Hostile Foreign Nations Psyops, during a War. Go read the history of the Frankfurt School in 1932 Germany!
Critical Theory was born there.
The above two legal precepts are not the only problems America is facing, there are many other things which have been deliberately fomented by outsiders, such as the abuse of the courts and the intel agencies as political weapons.
The Division and dysfunction in America in 2020---> is not an accident, it is often a psyop by a hostile foreign nation during an international war!
Iran, China, Davos/WEF ... they are not our friends.
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There two precepts of Western Law which have been a part of the JUSTICE of America, from the times before the creation of Constitution and the Bill of Rights:
1] You cannot inherent Criminal Guilt or Debt
2] You cannot be convicted of a crime, because you belong to the same Ethnicity or Race, as someone else of the same Ethnicity or Race, who committed a crime sometime in the past. IOW Similar Appearance Criminal Convection is not allowed.
Well, Cancel Culture and Identity Politics are fundamentally based on over-turning those two Legal Precepts.
And it destroys the TRUST needed to make a functional society!
It doesn't matter which side wins or steals, the damage to our society is being done in the Process of our election system being converted from one with protections, like the two above Legal Precepts, to a society which CANNOT live harmoniously.
We doomed for the nation to collapse into low productivity, distrust, hate-filled divisions, riots, looting, assault, and eventual civil war without a number of basic, logical, fundamental legal/societal precepts.
Where in the hell did Identity Politics come from anyway? Answer: Hostile Foreign Nations Psyops, during a War. Go read the history of the Frankfurt School in 1932 Germany!
Critical Theory was born there.
The above two legal precepts are not the only problems America is facing, there are many other things which have been deliberately fomented by outsiders, such as the abuse of the courts and the intel agencies as political weapons.
The Division and dysfunction in America in 2020---> is not an accident, it is often a psyop by a hostile foreign nation during an international war!
Iran, China, Davos/WEF ... they are not our friends.
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