What god did Einstein believe in?

Courtier's fallacy.
Precisely 100 percent of all the knowledge you have about physics and astronomy comes from subject matter experts. It didn't just randomly appear in your brain. But then you want to claim that expertise and professional authority carry no weight and do not matter 🤣
 
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What god did Einstein believe in, anyway?​

Einstein “was a pantheist who maintained certain Jewish traditions,” and he preferred to be called an agnostic and disliked militant atheists.
"I want to know God’s thoughts,” Albert Einstein once said. “The rest are mere details.” True quote. But what did Einstein mean by “God”?​

He was raised a Jew, and likely believed in the God of Abraham . . . at least for a while. So folk like to claim him as one of their “own.” But then, so do atheists.

In truth, Einstein was likely at neither extreme, according to this new article at Big Think. The article cites a 1936 letter a sixth-grade girl wrote to Einstein, asking, “Do scientists pray, and what do they pray for?”

In his reply, Einstein wrote, “Everyone who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that some spirit is manifest in the laws of the universe, one that is vastly superior to that of man. In this way the pursuit of science leads to a religious feeling of a special sort, which is surely quite different from the religiosity of someone more naive.”

Scholars generally agree that the theoretical physicist was an actual pantheist, believing that God is “in everything,” or that all is “at one with God.” In particular, as Einstein once told a rabbi, “I believe in Spinoza’s God, who reveals himself in the harmony of all that exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fate and the doings of mankind.”

Big Think concludes that Einstein “was a pantheist who maintained certain Jewish traditions,” and that he “preferred to be called an agnostic and disliked militant atheists.



Always liked his quote "God does not play dice with the Universe" and Hawking's rebuttal: "God not only plays dice with the Universe, sometimes He throws them where they cannot be seen."
 
Always liked his quote "God does not play dice with the Universe" and Hawking's rebuttal: "God not only plays dice with the Universe, sometimes He throws them where they cannot be seen."
Good quotes! I don't remember that one from Hawking (y) Most scientists aren't typically known for pithy clever aphorisms!
 
All of it was revealed to Melchizedek!
There's a huge difference between "Blind" Faith! And Faith revealed by the Holy Spirit!
Only in the mind of someone who cannot (or more correctly, WILL NOT) acknowledge that saying "there is a god" (or "there are no gods) IS NOTHING BUT A BLIND GUESS.

The fact that your blind guesses include this "revealed by the Holy Spirit" does not change things.
 
Only in the mind of someone who cannot (or more correctly, WILL NOT) acknowledge that saying "there is a god" (or "there are no gods) IS NOTHING BUT A BLIND GUESS.

The fact that your blind guesses include this "revealed by the Holy Spirit" does not change things.
Thanks for outing yourself as an Atheist.
 
Not so much that it is moot; it seems like it could be a very important matter, depending on the involvement of said deity.

The point is that atheists simply have not been sufficiently convinced of any theism to adopt it, which doesn't say anything about the importance of the matter. If I were to scream that your house is on fire, and that you had better get your family out right now or you're all going to die ... well, that's a pretty important matter, but seeing as how you are inside your house checking every room and there is no smoke, no fire, no heat, ... you can still remain unconvinced that there is any fire.
Fair enough.
Math and logic are atheistic because they are closed functional systems that do not include any theism.
Quite right.
Science, on the other hand, is atheistic not because God has not yet been discovered in a repeatable way, but simply because science is not belief. If you and I were to discover God, draft up the science, note that our new God science survives the scrutiny of the scientific method, God would become science, and cease being religion, and science would revert back to being atheistic.
I understand your reasoning, but consider this:

If God walked up to you and shook your hand and told you who He was, would you believe him?

Even THAT requires faith.
Exactly. The 1st law of theistodynamics states that the supernatural cannot be willed into existence out of nothing, and the supernatural cannot be destroyed into nothing, although the supernatural can change form.

Supernatural (t) = Supernatural (t+1)
Therefore, the 'supernatural' is natural.
Let's see ... we will divide:

The completely broke into the "pennyless" and the "militant pennyless."
The completely illiterate into those who cannot read and those who militantly cannot read.
The completely bald into those who are hairless, and those who are militantly-hairless.
Watermelons into seedless watermelons and militantly-seedless watermelons.
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The claim of "there is no god" is a theistic claim that precludes atheism.
Quite right. I call it the Church of No God. It is a fundamentalist style religion.
The trouble is, too many people think this religion is 'atheism'. They don't know English.
 
Fair enough.

Quite right.

I understand your reasoning, but consider this:

If God walked up to you and shook your hand and told you who He was, would you believe him?

Even THAT requires faith.

Therefore, the 'supernatural' is natural.

:thumbsup: :laugh:

Quite right. I call it the Church of No God. It is a fundamentalist style religion.
The trouble is, too many people think this religion is 'atheism'. They don't know English.
@Dutch Uncle isn't this the same person talking to himself? LOL
 
Precisely 100 percent of all the knowledge you have about physics and astronomy comes from subject matter experts. It didn't just randomly appear in your brain. But then you want to claim that expertise and professional authority carry no weight and do not matter 🤣
Courtier's fallacy. Science isn't 'experts'. Science isn't a 'profession'. Science isn't an 'authority'.

Science is a set of falsifiable theories. It isn't even people at all, though each theory of science was created by one or more people. Each theory stands or fails on it's own. No people needed.

You might as well claim that a playing card didn't just happen randomly.
 
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