What gun changes do you want to see ???

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Quasar44

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I fully support any gun for home defense !!! Yes even ARs
I don’t support concealed guns because too many mentally ill idiots are carrying . Here in Nevada it seems everyone has a gun and many are loose cannons . I am afraid to honk my horn as I may get a bullet through the window
What civilized society allows concealed guns ???
 
Automobiles are dangerous in the wrong hands. And they can easily be stolen. In order for an automobile to be returned to it's rightful owner, it must have a serial number that must be registered. When an automobile is sold, it must be registered in the new owners name, so they can be held responsible for the automobile in case it is involved in an accident.

Guns should be registered for all the same reasons.

So I am for gun registration.

If you fail to register your car- there is no way to acquire a license for it.

Only licensed drivers are allowed to operate an automobile on a public road. And only registered vehicles are allowed on public roads.

If you fail to obtain a drivers license- you can be fined or thrown into jail and even be restricted from obtaining a license! Obtaining a license gives you the authority to sell a gun to someone else who must also have a license in order to purchase a gun.

So gun owners should also have to have a license to own a gun- and if you don't obtain one, you should be fined, and if you break gun laws, you should lose your 2nd amendment right to own guns just as felons are.

Also, Gun registration and requiring owners to be licensed, would prevent the selling of weapons illegally.

And if you should try to circumvent the law, and sell a gun illegally to someone who should not own one- YOU COULD LOSE YOUR LICENSE TO OWN GUNS AND THEY COULD BE CONFISCATED.

So Gun registration owner licensing would cover a lot of ground in keeping America safe from guns.
 
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Geeko Sportivo said:
Automobiles are dangerous in the wrong hands. And they can easily be stolen. In order for an automobile to be returned to it's rightful owner, it must have a serial number that must be registered. When an automobile is sold, it must be registered in the new owners name, so they can be held responsible for the automobile in case it is involved in an accident.

Guns should be registered for all the same reasons.

So I am for gun registration.

If you fail to register your car- there is no way to acquire a license for it.

Only licensed drivers are allowed to operate an automobile on a public road. And only registered vehicles are allowed on public roads.

If you fail to obtain a drivers license- you can be fined or thrown into jail and even be restricted from obtaining a license! Obtaining a license gives you the authority to sell a gun to someone else who must also have a license in order to purchase a gun.

So gun owners should also have to have a license to own a gun- and if you don't obtain one, you should be fined, and if you break gun laws, you should lose your 2nd amendment right to own guns just as felons are.

Also, Gun registration and requiring owners to be licensed, would prevent the selling of weapons illegally.

And if you should try to circumvent the law, and sell a gun illegally to someone who should not own one- YOU COULD LOSE YOUR LICENSE TO OWN GUNS AND THEY COULD BE CONFISCATED.

So Gun registration owner licensing would cover a lot of ground in keeping America safe from guns.
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This is wrong in many ways.
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
Automobiles are dangerous in the wrong hands. And they can easily be stolen. In order for an automobile to be returned to it's rightful owner, it must have a serial number that must be registered. When an automobile is sold, it must be registered in the new owners name, so they can be held responsible for the automobile in case it is involved in an accident.

Guns should be registered for all the same reasons.

So I am for gun registration.

If you fail to register your car- there is no way to acquire a license for it.

Only licensed drivers are allowed to operate an automobile on a public road. And only registered vehicles are allowed on public roads.

If you fail to obtain a drivers license- you can be fined or thrown into jail and even be restricted from obtaining a license! Obtaining a license gives you the authority to sell a gun to someone else who must also have a license in order to purchase a gun.

So gun owners should also have to have a license to own a gun- and if you don't obtain one, you should be fined, and if you break gun laws, you should lose your 2nd amendment right to own guns just as felons are.

Also, Gun registration and requiring owners to be licensed, would prevent the selling of weapons illegally.

And if you should try to circumvent the law, and sell a gun illegally to someone who should not own one- YOU COULD LOSE YOUR LICENSE TO OWN GUNS AND THEY COULD BE CONFISCATED.

So Gun registration owner licensing would cover a lot of ground in keeping America safe from guns.
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Constitutional rights shouldn't require a license.

Background checks are understandable, but registration is just a tool that can later be used for gun confiscation. Australia did this, for example.
 
Woko Haram said:
Constitutional rights shouldn't require a license.

Background checks are understandable, but registration is just a tool that can later be used for gun confiscation. Australia did this, for example.
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So, do you also believe that Automobile Registration is just a tool to confiscate your car?

So I suppose you also think Immigrants coming here should not register legally to be here- BECAUSE that can later be used to deport them by someone like a Donald Trump?
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
Automobiles are dangerous in the wrong hands. And they can easily be stolen. In order for an automobile to be returned to it's rightful owner, it must have a serial number that must be registered. When an automobile is sold, it must be registered in the new owners name, so they can be held responsible for the automobile in case it is involved in an accident.

Guns should be registered for all the same reasons.

So I am for gun registration.

If you fail to register your car- there is no way to acquire a license for it.

Only licensed drivers are allowed to operate an automobile on a public road. And only registered vehicles are allowed on public roads.

If you fail to obtain a drivers license- you can be fined or thrown into jail and even be restricted from obtaining a license! Obtaining a license gives you the authority to sell a gun to someone else who must also have a license in order to purchase a gun.

So gun owners should also have to have a license to own a gun- and if you don't obtain one, you should be fined, and if you break gun laws, you should lose your 2nd amendment right to own guns just as felons are.

Also, Gun registration and requiring owners to be licensed, would prevent the selling of weapons illegally.

And if you should try to circumvent the law, and sell a gun illegally to someone who should not own one- YOU COULD LOSE YOUR LICENSE TO OWN GUNS AND THEY COULD BE CONFISCATED.

So Gun registration owner licensing would cover a lot of ground in keeping America safe from guns.
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You dont actually believe that registration is about who to punish do you ?
 
Quasar44 said:
I fully support any gun for home defense !!! Yes even ARs
I don’t support concealed guns because too many mentally ill idiots are carrying . Here in Nevada it seems everyone has a gun and many are loose cannons . I am afraid to honk my horn as I may get a bullet through the window
What civilized society allows concealed guns ???
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Guns should be open carry nationwide. Machine guns for everybody!
 
Quasar44 said:
I fully support any gun for home defense !!! Yes even ARs
I don’t support concealed guns because too many mentally ill idiots are carrying . Here in Nevada it seems everyone has a gun and many are loose cannons . I am afraid to honk my horn as I may get a bullet through the window
What civilized society allows concealed guns ???
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go fuck yourself, gun grabber.
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
So, do you also believe that Automobile Registration is just a tool to confiscate your car?

So I suppose you also think Immigrants coming here should not register legally to be here- BECAUSE that can later be used to deport them by someone like a Donald Trump?
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If various regimes had a history of seizing cars after registration, then I'd say yes. So far, we see it with guns but not usually cars, hence why my perception of this differs between the 2.

As for your second question, state control of citizen property is quite different from state control over who enters the country and who is allowed to stay. It used to be understood that citizens of a free society could expect to have their rights and property only diminished in extreme circumstances, like after committing a crime. Meanwhile, it was also understood that non-citizens were allowed to enter and stay in a country at the discretion of the corresponding state.

This common sense is apparently less common in the West than it used to be.
 
Woko Haram said:
If various regimes had a history of seizing cars after registration, then I'd say yes. So far, we see it with guns but not usually cars, hence why my perception of this differs between the 2.

As for your second question, state control of citizen property is quite different from state control over who enters the country and who is allowed to stay. It used to be understood that citizens of a free society could expect to have their rights and property only diminished in extreme circumstances, like after committing a crime. Meanwhile, it was also understood that non-citizens were allowed to enter and stay in a country at the discretion of the corresponding state.

This common sense is apparently less common in the West than it used to be.
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I am a gun owner, not a gun-toter by any means, but I know how to protect my home, property, and campsites I visit!

I am for any law that will help cool down the thoughts of people who are concerned about how to have the freedom to sell guns, yet protect people from becoming a victim of of a crime from someone having a gun that should never have had it in the first place.

One of my best friends- (OK it was 25 years ago now), but he was a Dallas Sheriff investigating a burglary of a business and was shot dead through the heart by someone who acquired the gun illegally on the black market.

This personal loss changed my views on Registration- and I have been speaking up about it ever since.
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
Automobiles are dangerous in the wrong hands. And they can easily be stolen. In order for an automobile to be returned to it's rightful owner, it must have a serial number that must be registered. When an automobile is sold, it must be registered in the new owners name, so they can be held responsible for the automobile in case it is involved in an accident.

Guns should be registered for all the same reasons.

So I am for gun registration.

If you fail to register your car- there is no way to acquire a license for it.

Only licensed drivers are allowed to operate an automobile on a public road. And only registered vehicles are allowed on public roads.

If you fail to obtain a drivers license- you can be fined or thrown into jail and even be restricted from obtaining a license! Obtaining a license gives you the authority to sell a gun to someone else who must also have a license in order to purchase a gun.

So gun owners should also have to have a license to own a gun- and if you don't obtain one, you should be fined, and if you break gun laws, you should lose your 2nd amendment right to own guns just as felons are.

Also, Gun registration and requiring owners to be licensed, would prevent the selling of weapons illegally.

And if you should try to circumvent the law, and sell a gun illegally to someone who should not own one- YOU COULD LOSE YOUR LICENSE TO OWN GUNS AND THEY COULD BE CONFISCATED.

So Gun registration owner licensing would cover a lot of ground in keeping America safe from guns.
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The right to own and drive a vehicle is not in the constitution.
As a card carrying libertarian my first priority is personal responsibility and I believe owning a deadly weapon requires proof of that.

However I'm also a strict constitutionalist so 'd like to see the 2nd Amendment repealed.
BUT as a constitutionalist , as long as the 2nd Amendment remains, every citizen has the unlimited right to bear arms including front and rear mounted 20mm – F-15E Gatling Gun Systems on your vehicle for protection.
The insanity of that would force the repeal of the 2nd Amendment.
 
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