Taichiliberal
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One of the major problems in the world is that a lot of people don't want real justice or peace, they actually want retribution. Until they acknowledge this, things will sadly continue as always.
What I really, really want!
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BidenPresident
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One of the major problems in the world is that a lot of people don't want real justice or peace, they actually want retribution. Until they acknowledge this, things will sadly continue as always.
But is not retribution a part of justice?
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
Nope. At least it shouldn't be, being that justice should be "blind" in it's dispense.
One of the major problems in the world is that a lot of people don't want real justice or peace, they actually want retribution. Until they acknowledge this, things will sadly continue as always.
It was not always this way, people used to be better.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
Dooyeweerd argues that the true sense of "retribution" is not revenge, but balance.....One of the major problems in the world is that a lot of people don't want real justice or peace, they actually want retribution. Until they acknowledge this, things will sadly continue as always.
The ancient Babylonians said that if a house builder's house collapses, and kills the owner of the house, then the house builder was to be executed. So far, extreme, but I kind of understand it. Note that it was an accident, but one assumed to be caused by negligence. If the son of the home owner was killed, then the son of the builder would be killed. This is a bit more extreme, but I understand the logic.
The part that confused me was if the owner's slave died, then the builder's slave was to be executed. Now I do not support slavery at all, but for the sake of argument let's just say slavery was legal, and we will not debate that part. The builder's slave could be handed over to the owner, and the owner could have been made whole. There would have been a death, but not a death of someone who had legal rights in Babylon, and more importantly to us, there would only be one death, not two. Killing a random slave makes no one better off.
The reality is there will never be a balancing. The best we can hope for is to prevent more crime by warning off potential criminals with punishment, and by taking past criminals off the streets.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
I bet there are at least three other things that I disagree with the Babylonians about.......
Geeko Sportivo
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One of the major problems in the world is that a lot of people don't want real justice or peace, they actually want retribution. Until they acknowledge this, things will sadly continue as always.
Republitards are going to cause trouble, no matter what.
They are not happy unless they are slinging shit and trying to own the libs and minorities.
It's a kind of hatred that is taught to them by their racist parents.
They were born into the hatred, and never stood up to it!
In other words- RUINED FOR LIFE AS WE KNOW IT!
Taichiliberal
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No, history tells us not. Mind you, there has always been a minority of people throughout the world who actually wanted justice and peace...but the majority are as I say and unfortunately always have been. What happened to Ghandi is a prime example.
Taichiliberal
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No, history tells us not. Mind you, there has always been a minority of people throughout the world who actually wanted justice and peace...but the majority are as I say and unfortunately always have been. What happened to Ghandi is a prime example.
Taichiliberal
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A moot point to a large degree. One can't just focus on a relatively current generation and ignore all the history that developed such.
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
I disagree....human beings create their own reality once they've got food, shelter and medical licked to a large degree. The nano-second Ghandi said, "yeah, and I mean YOU as well", he gets whacked.
It can be done....it just a collective will and courage.
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
But my point is that most people to a degree are guilty of the OP no matter perpetrator or victim, regardless of race, creed or color or what side of the political/social/economic fence you are on.
One of the major problems in the world is that a lot of people don't want real justice or peace, they actually want retribution. Until they acknowledge this, things will sadly continue as always.
How was your forced vacation, shit-for-brains?
T. A. Gardner
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I would add in this day and age, that there are many who see being punished severely for severe crimes as just as criminal as the original committer of the crime.
Matt Dillon
Semolina comes from wheat
One of the major problems in the world is that a lot of people don't want real justice or peace, they actually want retribution. Until they acknowledge this, things will sadly continue as always.
You want a large cactus dildo, amirite?
One of the major problems in the world is that a lot of people don't want real justice or peace, they actually want retribution. Until they acknowledge this, things will sadly continue as always.
If people acknowledge they want retribution, how does that bring about more real justice and peace?
I read this three times and could not decode it.
I am however deep into partying into the apocalypse.