What if Palestinians don't want peace?

I've said many times that I support Israel's right to retaliate, and bring Hamas to justice.

The sad part is they are destroying Gaza. The Palestinians that they have trapped and ghettoized are not responsible. But they are paying the price for Hama's crimes. Every point of humanitarianism is rejected by Netanyahoo because he never intended to care about Palestinian lives. So he justifies killing people in hospitals by saying Hamas is hiding under them. The homes he blows up, he claims have Hamas tunnel entry points. How would he know? Hamas proved Israel's vaunted spy network was blind to what was happening. The raid caught them with their pants down.
Killing Hamas is not bringing them to justice.
 
The sad part is they are destroying Gaza. The Palestinians that they have trapped and ghettoized are not responsible. But they are paying the price for Hama's crimes. Every point of humanitarianism is rejected by Netanyahoo because he never intended to care about Palestinian lives. So he justifies killing people in hospitals by saying Hamas is hiding under them. The homes he blows up, he claims have Hamas tunnel entry points. How would he know? Hamas proved Israel's vaunted spy network was blind to what was happening. The raid caught them with their pants down.
Killing Hamas is not bringing them to justice.

and mossad started hamas. to provide theatrics and live action role playing for the deep state psysoperation.
 
The sad part is they are destroying Gaza.

WRONG. Hamas destroyed Gaza. The sad part is that you are a dumb, uneducated, terrorist loving moron.

The Palestinians that they have trapped and ghettoized are not responsible.

The Israelis are not trapping Gaza Arabs. Hamas is simpleton. :palm:

But they are paying the price for Hama's crimes. Every point of humanitarianism is rejected by Netanyahoo because he never intended to care about Palestinian lives. So he justifies killing people in hospitals by saying Hamas is hiding under them. The homes he blows up, he claims have Hamas tunnel entry points. How would he know? Hamas proved Israel's vaunted spy network was blind to what was happening. The raid caught them with their pants down.

Moronic terrorist talking points. You really are THAT repugnant and stupid.

Killing Hamas is not bringing them to justice.

Only morons think Hamas will lay down their arms and give up their fight. You bring ignorance and stupidity to new level NerdBerg.
 
A lie.

You thread banned me, pendejo.

Extremely unlikely. It's more likely that you're confusing me w/ another poster whose name looks like mine - as many have.

You're actually the threadban leader here. I don't think I've seen you start a thread where you didn't try to ban most if not every liberal or non-Trumper here.
 
You have evidence that Mossad started Hamas right?

The Israelis saw Qutb's adherents in the Palestinian territories, including the wheelchair-bound Sheik Ahmed Yassin, as a useful counterweight to Arafat's PLO.


"When I look back at the chain of events I think we made a mistake," one Israeli official who had worked in Gaza in the 1980s said in a 2009 interview with the Wall Street Journal's Andrew Higgins. "But at the time nobody thought about the possible results."


Share this article
Share
Higgins's article is worth reading in full. He goes on to outline the type of assistance the Israelis initially gave Yassin, whom the PLO at one time deemed a "collaborator," and Gaza's other Islamists:

Israel's military-led administration in Gaza looked favorably on the paraplegic cleric, who set up a wide network of schools, clinics, a library and kindergartens. Sheikh Yassin formed the Islamist group Mujama al-Islamiya, which was officially recognized by Israel as a charity and then, in 1979, as an association. Israel also endorsed the establishment of the Islamic University of Gaza, which it now regards as a hotbed of militancy. The university was one of the first targets hit by Israeli warplanes in the [2008-9 Operation Cast Lead].
Yassin's Mujama would become Hamas, which, it can be argued, was Israel's Taliban: an Islamist group whose antecedents had been laid down by the West in a battle against a leftist enemy. Israel jailed Yassin in 1984 on a 12-year sentence after the discovery of hidden arms caches, but he was released a year later. The Israelis must have been more worried about other enemies.


Eventually, the tables turned. After the 1993 Oslo accords, Israel's formal recognition of the PLO and the start of what we now know as the peace process, Hamas was the Israelis' bete noire. Hamas refused to accept Israel or renounce violence and became perhaps the leading institution of Palestinian resistance to Israeli occupation, which, far beyond religious ideology, is the main reason for its continued popularity among Palestinians.

Yassin was killed in an Israeli airstrike in 2004. In 2007, after a legitimate Hamas election victory that rankled both the West and Fatah, the Islamist group took over Gaza — a move that led to strict Israeli blockades and the grinding cycle of conflict that is once more repeating itself.

But, as Aaron David Miller, a Middle East expert at the Woodrow Wilson Center, observes, a strange, self-sustaining relationship remains. Israel's hawkish government — comprising many politicians who have little interest in seeing the creation of a separate Palestinian state — dwells on the security threat that Hamas's crude rockets pose. Hamas depends, Miller writes, on "an ideology and strategy steeped in confrontation and resistance."

And so, he concludes, they are "two parties who can't seem to live with one another — or apparently without one another either."


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/07/30/how-israel-helped-create-hamas/
 
Like the same reason I hate democrats. Got it.

Sir, you hate everyone including yourself.

All one has to do to become a victim if your hatred, is just disagree with you on any given subject!

The truth is, your hatred does not affect those who disagree with you, but it will totally destroy your soul and health!

Hatred is a feeling that we all have felt and experienced at some point in our lives, especially when we have been betrayed or hurt by someone that we are attached to. Hateful feelings are normal when they occur sporadically. However, the effects of feeling hatred over a long period of time can have devastating effects on your mind and body. Feelings of rage and hatred build up in the mind, body and soul, affecting the body’s organs and natural processes and breeding further negative emotions. Hatred is a form of neurosis, fixation and judgment that is harmful to you. If continued, it leads to conflicts in relationships and to bodily dis-ease.

Research shows that hatred changes the chemistry in the brain as it stimulates the premotor cortex which is responsible for planning and execution of motion. This prepares us to act aggressively when feeling hateful, either to defend or as an attack . This activation also triggers the autonomic nervous system, creating “fight or flight” responses, increasing cortisol and adrenalin. Both these hormones deplete the adrenals and contribute to weight gain, insomnia, anxiety, depression and chronic illness. And so the cycle of bodily and mental dis-ease continues. Hatred also triggers the mind to try to predict what the actions of the person being hated may do, as a way to protect you, but this leads to further anxiety, restlessness, obsessive thinking and paranoia, which also then impacts negatively in the way you engage in relationships. It’s important to note that all these reactions affect only the hater, and not the hated, breaking down your nervous – immune – and endocrine system, and your mental well-being.

Sir, you are every bit as hateful as Donald Trump! No surprise there! But you may want to find some new leadership!

Just sayin'!
 
Last edited:
Sir, you hate everyone including yourself.

All one has to do to become a victim if your hatred, is just disagree with you on any given subject!

The truth is, your hatred does not affect those who disagree with you, but it will totally destroy your soul and health!

Hatred is a feeling that we all have felt and experienced at some point in our lives, especially when we have been betrayed or hurt by someone that we are attached to. Hateful feelings are normal when they occur sporadically. However, the effects of feeling hatred over a long period of time can have devastating effects on your mind and body. Feelings of rage and hatred build up in the mind, body and soul, affecting the body’s organs and natural processes and breeding further negative emotions. Hatred is a form of neurosis, fixation and judgment that is harmful to you. If continued, it leads to conflicts in relationships and to bodily dis-ease.

Research shows that hatred changes the chemistry in the brain as it stimulates the premotor cortex which is responsible for planning and execution of motion. This prepares us to act aggressively when feeling hateful, either to defend or as an attack . This activation also triggers the autonomic nervous system, creating “fight or flight” responses, increasing cortisol and adrenalin. Both these hormones deplete the adrenals and contribute to weight gain, insomnia, anxiety, depression and chronic illness. And so the cycle of bodily and mental dis-ease continues. Hatred also triggers the mind to try to predict what the actions of the person being hated may do, as a way to protect you, but this leads to further anxiety, restlessness, obsessive thinking and paranoia, which also then impacts negatively in the way you engage in relationships. It’s important to note that all these reactions affect only the hater, and not the hated, breaking down your nervous – immune – and endocrine system, and your mental well-being.

and you hate trump right?

for being anti-globalist?
 
Sir, you hate everyone including yourself.

All one has to do to become a victim if your hatred, is just disagree with you on any given subject!

The truth is, your hatred does not affect those who disagree with you, but it will totally destroy your soul and health!

Hatred is a feeling that we all have felt and experienced at some point in our lives, especially when we have been betrayed or hurt by someone that we are attached to. Hateful feelings are normal when they occur sporadically. However, the effects of feeling hatred over a long period of time can have devastating effects on your mind and body. Feelings of rage and hatred build up in the mind, body and soul, affecting the body’s organs and natural processes and breeding further negative emotions. Hatred is a form of neurosis, fixation and judgment that is harmful to you. If continued, it leads to conflicts in relationships and to bodily dis-ease.

Research shows that hatred changes the chemistry in the brain as it stimulates the premotor cortex which is responsible for planning and execution of motion. This prepares us to act aggressively when feeling hateful, either to defend or as an attack . This activation also triggers the autonomic nervous system, creating “fight or flight” responses, increasing cortisol and adrenalin. Both these hormones deplete the adrenals and contribute to weight gain, insomnia, anxiety, depression and chronic illness. And so the cycle of bodily and mental dis-ease continues. Hatred also triggers the mind to try to predict what the actions of the person being hated may do, as a way to protect you, but this leads to further anxiety, restlessness, obsessive thinking and paranoia, which also then impacts negatively in the way you engage in relationships. It’s important to note that all these reactions affect only the hater, and not the hated, breaking down your nervous – immune – and endocrine system, and your mental well-being.

No I don't hate everything including myself but I don't really expect retarded maggots like you to understand that.
 
and you hate trump right?

for being anti-globalist?

No, why should I hate Trump?

I happen to think Donald Trump is a horrible person, but I do not have to be a hateful person to realize that!

Because Donald Trump's hateful and selfish ways are obvious to everyone!

GettyImages-478986316.0.0.jpg
 
No, why should I hate Trump?

I happen to think Donald Trump is a horrible person, but I do not have to be a hateful person to realize that!

Because Donald Trump's hateful and selfish ways are obvious to everyone!

no they aren't.

he actually exemplifies looking past self by advocating working class interests.
 
Back
Top