What makes him different than Muslims who kill for religion?

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Cypress said:
Using the conventional logic, it is Christian terrorism.

My personal opinion is that Islam and Christianity have nothing to do with terrorism, and criminal gangs with political goals hijack and twist some religious themes to justify their crimes.
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Christian Identity is not actually a Christian denomination.......
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
It's in the OP.

"Carothers was charged with second-degree murder twice before, according to the Murfreesboro-based Daily News Journal. He was convicted of that crime in 1999 and in 2011 pleaded guilty to a lesser charge, the newspaper reported."
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thanks. I find it incomprehensible how someone can be convicted of second degree murder less than 20 years ago and still be out in enough time to be charged with it AGAIN 12 years later.....................and be charged with it AGAIN 7 years after that..............
 
TTQ64 said:
A white man accused of burning a black man alive in Tennessee earlier this year was a known white supremacist, an expert in extremism told HuffPost, and subscribed to a racist and anti-Semitic ideology known as Christian Identity.


John Daniel Carothers, 53, stands accused in the March murder of 40-year-old Robert Miller at a house in Murfreesboro. Prosecutors said in court this month that authorities had recently intercepted a jailhouse letter Carothers wrote and sent to a white supremacist group. In the letter, Carothers confessed to the grisly murder and expressed white supremacist views, according to the prosecutors.


“To my brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ our savior and Lord, My name is John D. Carothers and I believe the Bible is about white people and for white people,” the handwritten letter said. “I am in Rutherford County jail for burning a black man. I set him on fire with lighter fluid poured on his head.”


Carla Hill, a senior investigative researcher at the Center on Extremism at the Anti-Defamation League, told HuffPost the letter was addressed to Kingdom Identity Ministries in Harrison, Arizona — the country’s largest publisher of Christian Identity propaganda. Adherents of the Christian Identity movement believe white Europeans are the true Israelites; that Jews are the spawn of Satan; and that non-whites are sub-human “mud people.”


Its twisted theology has been embraced by many white supremacist groups, and Christian Identity followers have been connected to multiple murders, shootings and bombings since the 1980s.


Hill said she and other researchers have been aware of Carothers “for years.”


“He comes from a family that practices a particularly vitriolic brand of white supremacy that’s explicitly very racist and anti-Semitic,” Hill said.


“The fact that Carothers said the Bible is for white people is something a Christian Identity adherent would say,” she added.


Hill also pointed to Carothers’ Facebook page, where he goes by the name Horst Fisher — a reference to Dr. Horst Fischer, the Nazi SS doctor tasked with deciding which Jews and other inmates lived and died at the concentration camp in Birkenau, Germany.


Carothers’ Facebook page is filled with white supremacist memes and pro-Nazi postings. His posts show him spewing hate against blacks, Muslims and Jews, and praising white supremacist leaders dead and alive, including Catholic priest Charles Coughlin and Matthew Heimbach.


In 2009, Carothers, who also goes by the name “David Carothers,” was reportedly spotted with his son passing out National Alliance pamphlets outside a gun show in Columbus, Georgia. The National Alliance was a genocidal neo-Nazi group that called for the eradication of Jews and non-whites from America.


Carothers’ son, Michael Weaver, was once named National Alliance’s “activist of the year.” In 2011, Weaver pleaded guilty to aggravated assault after pepper-spraying a black man in Columbus — an attack prosecutors said was motivated by hate.


“He’s Out! Free! Free At Last,” Carothers wrote on his Facebook in January 2017, celebrating Weaver’s release from prison.


Details on Carothers’ background comes amid a surge in violence linked to white supremacists across the U.S. White supremacists murdered twice as many people in 2017 as they did the year before, according to a report from the ADL, helping make the year the fifth deadliest for extremist violence in the nation since 1970.


Carothers faces charges of first-degree murder, reckless endangerment and aggravated arson stemming from Miller’s death. The alleged murder took place at a halfway home for veterans, where both Carothers and Miller had lived.


Carothers was charged with second-degree murder twice before, according to the Murfreesboro-based Daily News Journal. He was convicted of that crime in 1999 and in 2011 pleaded guilty to a lesser charge, the newspaper reported.


Rutherford County District Attorney Jennings Jones told NewsChannel5 Monday that although Tennessee has no hate crime law, he may pursue a hate crime enhancement for Carothers’ sentence if he is found guilty at trial







https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/john-daniel-carothers_us_5b857e4ee4b0cf7b002f89ca
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"Carothers was charged with second-degree murder twice before, according to the Murfreesboro-based Daily News Journal. He was convicted of that crime in 1999 and in 2011 pleaded guilty to a lesser charge, the newspaper reported."

There's your problem.

What doesn't any of this have to do with Muslims?
 
SmarterthanYou said:
thanks. I find it incomprehensible how someone can be convicted of second degree murder less than 20 years ago and still be out in enough time to be charged with it AGAIN 12 years later.....................and be charged with it AGAIN 7 years after that..............
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Agree. I hope that there are more calls for justice and a revamp of the correctional system from more than just us anonymous message board members.
 
christiefan915 said:
He really is a disgusting swine. I hope he can't plea bargain his way out of this and gets locked up for the rest of his sorry life.
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White males have always gotten away with killing Blacks.

Justice "MAY" be served now that it's hit national news.

But then again, look at Zimmerman.
 
archives said:
True, but it seems as if Islam is the only one to be completely condemned because of the actions of the "sick people" in their religion
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Not so.
Christians have been historically pretty fucked up as well.
They don't blame condemn themselves, of course, but there are still plenty of people calling them out.
People with a gripe with me often don't know what a secular humanist is. They just blame "commie liberals" instead.
 
anonymoose said:
So you give a pass to jihadists who blow up innocent people who are non-believers.
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WTF are you talking about?

My post is very clear. If you can't understand it, then you're probably who I'm talking about.

I don't buy the white mans reasoning for hate or racism against another group of people. So fuck off with your jihadists nonsense.

My problem in this country is with RACIST WHITE MEN!
 
christiefan915 said:
Ridiculous.
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Really ?

In one horrifying case, a Christian migrant returned from church to find a notice in one of the rooms saying: “To all Muslims: now is the time to behead the unbelievers.”*

Christians were forced to flee the camp in a desperate bid to avoid an attack, according to research by Open Doors.*
 
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