What Ron DeSantis’ Silence on Antisemitic Messages Says About the GOP

[Dutch Uncle]

Absolutely. It's what they do.

There are Jussie Smollet antics everywhere. It's what the fascist left does.

Are you admitting that the Trumpers at those rallies who let in all the Neo-Nazi Jew-haters were stupid for doing so? Don't you think the swastikas and Nazi salutes were a dead-giveaway?

What about the Confederate flags? Lefty Democrats too?

 

[Guno צְבִי]

The left hates Jews as they destroy their cult of victimhood myth. The Jews prove the narrative is a farce to keep the less intelligent on the Democrat plantation via votes.

Leftists always side with the Palestinians and their murder of Israelis. The code word for their veiled Nazi hate is "Zionist."

A Jew voting Democrat is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders.

The hate on the left for Jews is proven in spades.

Over 80 % of us Jews are libs /leftists you ignorant goy

U.S. Presidential Elections: Jewish Voting Record
(1916 - Present)


https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jewish-voting-record-in-u-s-presidential-elections

 

[Life is Golden]

Yea because an old goy says I'm not Better call Israel and tell them to take away my citizenship because a drunken old goy like you says so

You havce no clue goyim brains

At 70, you're much older than me but clearly that doesn't translate into intelligence as I have to school you on what is so evident anyone can see it.

I don't drink, smoke or do drugs. Making up lies about me doesn't change the fact the left despises Jews as there is proof in spades of this.

It's not my fault you are too stupid to see it. They HATE Jews and Israel. Watch the term "Zionist," it is the out word for their Nazi-ism.

 

[Guno צְבִי]

U.S. Jews’ political views
Pew Research Center surveys, including the 2020 study, show that Jews are among the most consistently liberal and Democratic groups in the U.S. population. Seven-in-ten Jewish adults identify with or lean toward the Democratic Party, and half describe their political views as liberal.

 

[Life is Golden]

Are you admitting that the Trumpers at those rallies who let in all the Neo-Nazi Jew-haters were stupid for doing so? Don't you think the swastikas and Nazi salutes were a dead-giveaway?

What about the Confederate flags? Lefty Democrats too?

If you can refute my post, please do so.

If you want to troll and post stupid pictures and lies, then move on. I won't reply again.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

If you can refute my post, please do so.

If you want to troll and post stupid pictures and lies, then move on. I won't reply again.

I'm asking questions. If you don't have the answers, please be honest enough to say so without lowering yourself to trolling and insults. TIA

 

[Life is Golden]

I'm asking questions. If you don't have the answers, please be honest enough to say so without lowering yourself to trolling and insults. TIA

Those questions are nothing I have ever written.

Please stick to what I have actually written in posts or refute any post with which you disagree.

Assigning false positions I have never espoused is equivalent to lying, i.e., trolling. And I have no desire to do that.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Those questions are nothing I have ever written.

Please stick to what I have actually written in posts or refute any post with which you disagree.

Assigning false positions I have never espoused is equivalent to lying, i.e., trolling. And I have no desire to do that.

How do I refute your opinion that the neo-nazis marching with the militias and KKK are Lefties?

The evidence indicates the Nazis were aligned with the White Supremacists and KKK.

Example:
https://www.npr.org/2019/06/28/7369...ille-protester-is-sentenced-to-life-in-prison
Neo-Nazi Who Killed Charlottesville Protester Is Sentenced To Life In Prison

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/09/charlottesville-kkk-rally-confederate-statue-racism
KKK rally over Confederate statue stirs deep-rooted tensions in Charlottesville
This article is more than 5 years old
As the liberal Virginia city attempts to ‘tell the truth about race in our history’, the Ku Klux Klan, counter-protesters and Confederate loyalists clash over what that means to them

 

[Life is Golden]

How do I refute your opinion that the neo-nazis marching with the militias and KKK are Lefties?

The evidence indicates the Nazis were aligned with the White Supremacists and KKK.

Example:
https://www.npr.org/2019/06/28/7369...ille-protester-is-sentenced-to-life-in-prison
Neo-Nazi Who Killed Charlottesville Protester Is Sentenced To Life In Prison

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/09/charlottesville-kkk-rally-confederate-statue-racism
KKK rally over Confederate statue stirs deep-rooted tensions in Charlottesville
This article is more than 5 years old
As the liberal Virginia city attempts to ‘tell the truth about race in our history’, the Ku Klux Klan, counter-protesters and Confederate loyalists clash over what that means to them

Here is just one example of the fake "white supremacists".

It's what they do, Jussie Smollet style.

https://nypost.com/2021/10/29/glenn...auliffe-team-of-fake-white-supremacist-stunt/

The left HATES Jews and I have explained my opinion.

If you can prove otherwise or refute it, do so. But stop wasting my time with trolling nonsense. This is my last reply if this is all you can do.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Here is just one example of the fake "white supremacists".

It's what they do, Jussie Smollet style.

https://nypost.com/2021/10/29/glenn...auliffe-team-of-fake-white-supremacist-stunt/

The left HATES Jews and I have explained my opinion.

If you can prove otherwise or refute it, do so. But stop wasting my time with trolling nonsense. This is my last reply if this is all you can do.

Jussie belongs in prison just like the violent Nazis and White Supremacists.

Thanks for the link. It confirms two things; that the Unite the Right rally were RW white supremacists and that the Republican Lincoln Project exemplifies the split within the Republican Party...a fratricidal war that's been going on since Newt pushed the acronym RINO into popular parlance.

https://lincolnproject.us/

 

[T. A. Gardner]

The original premise here is nothing but a non sequitur fallacy. It amounts to this:

Kanye West said antisemitic shit.
Ron DeSantis didn't condemn on it
Therefore, DeSantis is an antisemite.

In a non sequitur fallacy the original premise, that Kanye West is antisemitic because he said antisemitic shit, and therefore anyone--including DeSantis--who fails to condemn this is also an antisemite, must be antisemitic too. The conclusion doesn't follow the premise.

That is a completely idiotic fallacy on Guano's part. There are many who are not antisemitic who don't even know who West is. There are lots of others with better things to do than comment on everything asinine thing some celebrity utters.

Thus, DeSantis is not antisemitic simply because he failed to comment or condemn something some jackass celebrity said. Logical fallacy fail on the OP's part.

 

[Life is Golden]

Jussie belongs in prison just like the violent Nazis and White Supremacists.

Thanks for the link. It confirms two things; that the Unite the Right rally were RW white supremacists and that the Republican Lincoln Project exemplifies the split within the Republican Party...a fratricidal war that's been going on since Newt pushed the acronym RINO into popular parlance.

https://lincolnproject.us/

The left has staged false operations and riots at Trump rallies.

Why do you avoid my point about the left and Jews? That is germane to the thread.

You have no idea how to debate a topic. Apparently you think making up a bunch of lies and claiming the poster holds the views is how it's done. It's just trolling and a waste of time. It certainly doesn't look intelligent.

 

[archives]

It’s been almost two full days since the words “Kanye is right about the Jews” were displayed on a screen at TIAA Bank Field stadium in Jacksonville, Florida (and on another building in that city)—a reference to Kanye “Ye” West’s recent antisemitic comments that were straight out of the notorious forgery and roadmap for antisemitic conspiracy theories, The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

The state’s governor, Ron DeSantis, who was in attendance at the game, hasn’t said a thing in public about the messages, even as other leaders condemned them. This includes his Democratic opponent for governor, Charlie Crist (a former congressman and governor himself), who blasted DeSantis’ silence as a “disgusting and absolute failure of leadership.”

As of Monday morning, DeSantis’ office has declined to comment on the incident. This craven silence is becoming a trend for the GOP star governor, the leading contender to be Trump’s successor as leader of the GOP.

DeSantis has run campaign ads that included Christian nationalist Pastor Larry Jinks, who has been quoted as saying, “We are called to be at odds with any religion that does not acknowledge Jesus as the Prince of Peace and the only way to the Father.” Jinks, earlier this year, wrote on his Facebook page that “It’s a shame that the Jews, who should know better,” rejected Jesus as their messiah.

DeSantis has also trafficked in antisemitic tropes, vilifying Democrats as puppets of financier George Soros and condemning one official he fired as being “Soros-backed.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...A13Ai4B?cvid=559c19e44e3241578b80f57c64fa2c9d

No, just as he, and the majority of Republicans will never recognize the hate rhetoric from their side that led to the assault on the Capitol or Pelosi’s husband, the lemmings don’t want to hear it, so they, especially DeSantis, aren’t going to mention it

 

[Dutch Uncle]

The original premise here is nothing but a non sequitur fallacy. It amounts to this:

Kanye West said antisemitic shit.
Ron DeSantis didn't condemn on it
Therefore, DeSantis is an antisemite.

It's the same logic as the assualt on Paul Pelosi:

RWNJ assaults Paul Pelosi
LWers didn't condemn man outside Kavanaugh home
Therefore, RWNJ assaults are okay.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

The left has staged false operations and riots at Trump rallies.

Why do you avoid my point about the left and Jews? That is germane to the thread.

You have no idea how to debate a topic. Apparently you think making up a bunch of lies and claiming the poster holds the views is how it's done. It's just trolling and a waste of time. It certainly doesn't look intelligent.

No doubt. Nutjobs abound. The WSEs have done the same at BLM protests. Back in the 1960s both Left and Right Wing agitators tried to stir shit up at protests.

One favorite trick I remember? Tossing light bulbs off a roof. They sound like gunshots when they hit. Sometimes the police would take the bait and start shooting "the negras".

Maybe you can use that at a WSE or BLM march to shake things up?

As for your claim that LW Nazis hate Jews, I continue to disagree since it's a non sequitur. There are no LW Nazis, only RW ones as proved by the links I provided.

 

[Life is Golden]

No doubt. Nutjobs abound. The WSEs have done the same at BLM protests. Back in the 1960s both Left and Right Wing agitators tried to stir shit up at protests.

One favorite trick I remember? Tossing light bulbs off a roof. They sound like gunshots when they hit. Sometimes the police would take the bait and start shooting "the negras".

Maybe you can use that at a WSE or BLM march to shake things up?

As for your claim that LW Nazis hate Jews, I continue to disagree since it's a non sequitur. There are no LW Nazis, only RW ones as proved by the links I provided.

Ok we're done here. Good luck finding someone else to troll.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Ok we're done here. Good luck finding someone else to troll.

Not trolling. You are not obligated to attempt to rectify the disconnect of claiming neo-Nazis are Lefties with the fact they are a main part of the Unite the Right protest and continue to support the White Supremacist ideology espoused by the ex-Prez and many of his fans.

I understand why you don't want to discuss it, but I'd encourage you to look into it on your own.

https://time.com/charlottesville-white-nationalist-rally-clashes/
CLASHES OVER A SHOW OF WHITE NATIONALISM IN CHARLOTTESVILLE TURN DEADLY

Violence erupted in the college town of Charlottesville on Aug. 12 after hundreds of white nationalists and their supporters who gathered for a rally over plans to remove a Confederate statue were met by counter-protesters, leading Virginia’s governor to declare a state of emergency....

...The night before Saturday’s violence, hundreds of white nationalists marched through the University of Virginia campus while carrying burning torches.

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2022/08/11/unite-right-5-years-later-where-are-they-now
Unite the Right' 5 Years Later: Where Are They Now?

Five years after white supremacists descended on Charlottesville, Virginia, the statue they came to protect is gone, and the “alt-right” coalition they embodied has imploded. At the same time, the existential threat that far-right extremism poses to the U.S. has arguably never been more severe...

...SPLC warned in January 2017 that a pro-Trump, neo-Nazi blog called The Daily Stormer had emerged as “the top hate site in America,” surpassing its older rival Stormfront. Daily Stormer editor and owner Andrew Anglin appeared to revel in the negative attention. He declared in May 2017 that his readers and everyone else should prepare for “The Summer of Hate.”

“This summer, a Black Sun will pass over America,” he wrote, referring to the esoteric Nazi sonnenrad (or “black sun”) symbol, comparing it to a total solar eclipse.

Daily Stormer writers including Anglin and Robert “Azzmador” Ray, head of the membership groups known as “Stormer book clubs,” promoted Unite the Right throughout that summer. On Aug. 9, 2017, Anglin appeared to call for war.

“We are angry. There is an atavistic rage in us, deep in us, that is ready to boil over,” he wrote. “There is a craving to return to an age of violence.”

 

[Guno צְבִי]

The mistake in equating right-wing and left-wing antisemitism


A gunman entered the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh during Shabbat morning services on Oct. 27, 2018, killing 11 worshippers and wounding six more in the deadliest attack ever on Jews in the United States.

On the same day in 1938, the Nazis started rounding up and sending Polish Jews living in Germany back to Poland.

The throughline of those 80 years — from the expulsion of Polish Jews to the Tree of Life massacre — is white supremacy. The same line stretches from my mother’s incarceration in Auschwitz to the virulent antisemitism of this past year — from white nationalist rallies to a mass shooting in Buffalo, New York, inspired by racist and antisemitic conspiracy theories.

Our experience of growing antisemitism spurs us to redouble our efforts to fight it. But the fear it evokes, propelled by the pain of past trauma, can lead to abrupt and disproportionate responses that weaken those very efforts.

“When people are in pain,” my mother said, “they don’t think in relative terms. They react to a fly as if it were a vulture.”

But it is imperative to think in relative terms in order to effectively confront contemporary antisemitism. We must understand the differences **between its various types and sources — particularly right-wing and left-wing antisemitism.

For example, unlike other forms of antisemitism in America today, left-wing antisemitism is often a hatred that begins with anger toward Israel. It is not a hatred of Jews qua Jews. As the historian Steven Beller told me, “Antisemitism stemming from the Israel-Palestine conflict is not inherently due to antisemitic ideology, nor a sense of the Jews not being legitimate members of society.”

On this anniversary of the Tree of Life massacre, when ideologies like the great replacement theory are infiltrating the Republican Party on the eve of midterm elections

read on


https://forward.com/opinion/522629/the-mistake-in-equating-right-wing-and-left-wing-antisemitism/

 

[Theywillneverlearn!]

It’s been almost two full days since the words “Kanye is right about the Jews” were displayed on a screen at TIAA Bank Field stadium in Jacksonville, Florida (and on another building in that city)—a reference to Kanye “Ye” West’s recent antisemitic comments that were straight out of the notorious forgery and roadmap for antisemitic conspiracy theories, The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

The state’s governor, Ron DeSantis, who was in attendance at the game, hasn’t said a thing in public about the messages, even as other leaders condemned them. This includes his Democratic opponent for governor, Charlie Crist (a former congressman and governor himself), who blasted DeSantis’ silence as a “disgusting and absolute failure of leadership.”

As of Monday morning, DeSantis’ office has declined to comment on the incident. This craven silence is becoming a trend for the GOP star governor, the leading contender to be Trump’s successor as leader of the GOP.

DeSantis has run campaign ads that included Christian nationalist Pastor Larry Jinks, who has been quoted as saying, “We are called to be at odds with any religion that does not acknowledge Jesus as the Prince of Peace and the only way to the Father.” Jinks, earlier this year, wrote on his Facebook page that “It’s a shame that the Jews, who should know better,” rejected Jesus as their messiah.

DeSantis has also trafficked in antisemitic tropes, vilifying Democrats as puppets of financier George Soros and condemning one official he fired as being “Soros-backed.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...A13Ai4B?cvid=559c19e44e3241578b80f57c64fa2c9d

Yawn. STFU you fake ass white woke never served wannabe Jew. Post your welfare collecting address. Time to take steps here.

 

[Trumpet]

Yawn. STFU you fake ass white woke never served wannabe Jew. Post your welfare collecting address. Time to take steps here.

Poopeye, the mayor of Pickle Park.