Robo
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WHY? Do you ever post links for your post? If I feel like it I'll think about sending you a link. I don't expect y'all lefties to even know about it since you only watch CNN & MSNBC fake news!
What The FBI Did To Flynn Should Be Illegal.
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WHY? Do you ever post links for your post? If I feel like it I'll think about sending you a link. I don't expect y'all lefties to even know about it since you only watch CNN & MSNBC fake news!
Flynn’s Son, ‘Pizzagate’ Promoter, Is No Longer On Trump ...
Flynn tweeted on Nov. 2, linking to an article on truepundit.com which cited “NYPD sources” who claimed evidence existed linking Hillary Clinton to various crimes including “Child ...
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/michael-flynn-son-not-on-transition-team-pence
floridafan
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Expected, more of your fucking lies.
jimmymccready
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Don't lie to the cops if it is illegal to lie.
Simply refuse to answer.
Simply refuse to answer.
“Until #Pizzagate proven to be false, it’ll remain a story. The left seems to forget #PodestaEmails and the many “coincidences” tied to it,” the younger Flynn wrote Sunday night, one of many statements defending the conspiracy theory.
His father, retired Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn, has dabbled in the conspiratorial, as well: “U decide – NYPD Blows Whistle on New Hillary Emails: Money Laundering, Sex Crimes w Children, etc…MUST READ!” Flynn tweeted on Nov. 2, linking to an article on truepundit.com which cited “NYPD sources” who claimed evidence existed linking Hillary Clinton to various crimes including “Child exploitation” and “sex crimes with minors (children).”
The elder Flynn has promoted conspiracies about various members of President Obama and Hillary Clinton’s inner circles, pushing 16 dubious stories since August 9, according to a Politico tally.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/michael-flynn-son-not-on-transition-team-pence
His father, retired Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn, has dabbled in the conspiratorial, as well: “U decide – NYPD Blows Whistle on New Hillary Emails: Money Laundering, Sex Crimes w Children, etc…MUST READ!” Flynn tweeted on Nov. 2, linking to an article on truepundit.com which cited “NYPD sources” who claimed evidence existed linking Hillary Clinton to various crimes including “Child exploitation” and “sex crimes with minors (children).”
The elder Flynn has promoted conspiracies about various members of President Obama and Hillary Clinton’s inner circles, pushing 16 dubious stories since August 9, according to a Politico tally.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/michael-flynn-son-not-on-transition-team-pence
Althea
Althea told me...........
Once he was fired from the Pentagon for a number of violations, he really became a money grabbing machine. That's not necessarily different from other retired generals who take on high paying 'advisory' roles, but as you mentioned above...Flynn refused to comply with simple regulations.
Something he was famous for when he was still employed by the military.
Incoming national security adviser's son spreads ... - POLITICO
The son of retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, Donald Trump’s pick for national security adviser, embraced a baseless conspiracy theory about Hillary Clinton on Sunday after a man who claimed to be ...
https://www.politico.com/story/2016...-spreads-fake-news-about-dc-pizza-shop-232181
The son of retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, Donald Trump’s pick for national security adviser, embraced a baseless conspiracy theory about Hillary Clinton on Sunday after a man who claimed to be ...
https://www.politico.com/story/2016...-spreads-fake-news-about-dc-pizza-shop-232181
You undoubtedly stood on the sidelines cheering when a Republican congress impeached and tried to remove from office a president for lying about a blowjob with a consenting female.
Your opinion on fair, equitable, and proportional justice means nothing - and you have no standing to post about it.
Sometimes old men fall apart after years and years of resentment. As I recall, Flynn's mgmt style was toxic.
This is my understanding of what I have read in press reports:
General Flynn was an ‘operational’ intelligence official. He was responsible for pushing an accelerated ‘streamlined’ program to use intelligence information obtained in raids in Iraq more quickly than before. Rather than ‘taking their time’ and digging ‘deep’ for info to get the teams out more quickly for further raids. I may misunderstand the info I have read; but again he was highly respected as an ‘operational’ intelligence officer.
When he was put in as head of the DIA he convened a meeting with his new staff and told them they would all get along as long as they understood he was always right. Things went downhill from there, as he would get into vociferous disagreements with his staff. It turned out he was good at the ‘in-the-field’ level but did not have the talent to deal with people who were not under his ‘command’ but professionals in their own right. Complaints followed and in the end Flynn was fired because he could not run the DIA competently. (In common parlance, Flynn does not play well with others.)
I believe Flynn believed that President Obama fired him for being ‘right’ and that it was a conspiracy. (My belief is no proof. But Flynn’s behavior was so egregious and I believe intemperate I cannot find any other reason for him to be doing some of the stuff he had been doing.)
Rubin: The real reason Flynn was fired - philly.com
But former military colleagues of Flynn told me he was hot-tempered, a bad manager, extremely hard to work with - and prone to conspiracy theories. These negative qualities got Flynn fired as head of the Defense Intelligence Agency under President Barack Obama.
http://www2.philly.com/philly/opinion/20170215_Rubin__Why_Flynn_was_fired.html
But former military colleagues of Flynn told me he was hot-tempered, a bad manager, extremely hard to work with - and prone to conspiracy theories. These negative qualities got Flynn fired as head of the Defense Intelligence Agency under President Barack Obama.
http://www2.philly.com/philly/opinion/20170215_Rubin__Why_Flynn_was_fired.html
Rubin: The real reason Flynn was fired - philly.com
But former military colleagues of Flynn told me he was hot-tempered, a bad manager, extremely hard to work with - and prone to conspiracy theories. These negative qualities got Flynn fired as head of the Defense Intelligence Agency under President Barack Obama.
http://www2.philly.com/philly/opinion/20170215_Rubin__Why_Flynn_was_fired.html
But former military colleagues of Flynn told me he was hot-tempered, a bad manager, extremely hard to work with - and prone to conspiracy theories. These negative qualities got Flynn fired as head of the Defense Intelligence Agency under President Barack Obama.
http://www2.philly.com/philly/opinion/20170215_Rubin__Why_Flynn_was_fired.html
Althea
Althea told me...........
Finally...a moment of clarity
'Lil' Flynn was active in the illegal Flynn consulting firm. He's just as liable as his father.
Flynn departure erupts into a full-blown crisis for the Trump White House
This chaotic management style is embarrassing the country. It is angering our allies and emboldening our enemies. Far from making Trump look tough, it is turning him into a global figure of fun and bemusement.
The Flynn scandal is a perfect example of the cost of making foreign policy on the fly.
Flynn was hired because he was one of very few prominent security professionals who endorsed the Trump candidacy early. Also, he was a fierce critic of Hillary Clinton's, leading raucous chants at the GOP convention of "Lock her up!"
But former military colleagues of Flynn told me he was hot-tempered, a bad manager, extremely hard to work with - and prone to conspiracy theories. These negative qualities got Flynn fired as head of the Defense Intelligence Agency under President Barack Obama.
They were hardly the qualities needed to advise a thin-skinned, ill-informed, conspiracy-minded president on national security issues. Famously unwilling to read more than a few bullet points and certain he knows everything, Trump needed a steadying hand more than any president in memory.
Yet under Flynn, National Security Council meetings were disorganized and dysfunctional. According to the New York Times, attendees struggled to keep up with Trump's tweets, which often contained stunning foreign policy pronouncements. Nor was the council informed of what Trump told foreign leaders in his phone calls.
This was not the normal presidential learning curve. One day Trump's tweets led the Mexican president to cancel a visit; on other days he rudely insulted the Australian and French prime ministers on the telephone. The president veered forward and backward, tweeting threats to junk key elements of long-standing U.S. policy on China, then eventually backing off in the face of Beijing anger.
Experienced Republican foreign policy hands were unwelcome for senior positions because they had criticized Trump during the campaign. Only weeks into Trump's presidency, White House infighting was already vicious, as chief strategist Steve Bannon muscled in on Flynn's role and jostled with Defense Secretary James Mattis.
The president (who damned Clinton for her security breaches) talked and tweeted on an unsecured cell phone and held key security talks on North Korea in an unsecured dining room at his Mar-a-Lago club house with diners snapping photos.
The world looks on agog at Trump's foreign policy reality show.
But on one issue Trump and Flynn remained in tandem: an unseemly eagerness to appease Vladimir Putin. And that brings us to the unfolding scandal that brought Michael Flynn down.
Supposedly, Flynn was fired because he lied to Vice President Pence about phone conversations with the Russian ambassador to Washington on Dec. 29 - right after Obama imposed sanctions on Moscow for hacking the U.S. elections. Flynn said he didn't speak to the ambassador about the sanctions; this would have broken an obscure law since Flynn did not yet hold office. Pence repeated this denial on TV.
Flynn got caught because U.S. security agencies were taping the Russian ambassador and someone leaked the transcripts to the Washington Post (the mercurial Flynn had a personal war ongoing with the intel community and the leak was payback).
But I don't believe Flynn's downfall came because he lost "the trust" of his bosses. After all, he was just following Trump's line, signaling to the Kremlin that once Trump took office the sanctions would probably be lifted.
And Trump was given the transcript of Flynn's conversation on Jan. 26, so - if trust was the issue - why not dump him before now?
Nor do I buy the claim that Flynn was subject to Russian blackmail because the Kremlin knew he lied to Pence. Moscow loves Flynn; he has appeared on the Kremlin's propaganda outlet, RT, for which he took money, and been photographed schmoozing with Putin. The Russians have no more interest in blackmailing Flynn than they do in smearing Putin's chief White House admirer - Trump.
No, I believe Flynn was fired because the leaks made the story go public, and embarrassed Pence. If the leaks hadn't happened, I'm certain Flynn would still hold his post.
Never mind that he worsened the utter confusion in the White House on foreign policy. Never mind his mistaken assumptions that big U.S. concessions to Putin will woo him away from his warm relations with Iran and China and create an ally against ISIS. After all, Trump thinks the same.
Flynn's departure won't stop Trump's tweets, or his nasty calls to allies (or his attacks on stores that don't carry Ivanka's brand). Nor will it instill cohesion into White House foreign policy. Even a more sober NSC adviser couldn't do that, unless two miracles occur.
First, Bannon, another prophet of chaos in the White House, would have to resign too. And the president would have to grasp the gravity of his office and stop behaving like a reality-TV star. But that would mean he could no longer be Trump.
http://www.philly.com/philly/opinion/20170215_Rubin__Why_Flynn_was_fired.html
This chaotic management style is embarrassing the country. It is angering our allies and emboldening our enemies. Far from making Trump look tough, it is turning him into a global figure of fun and bemusement.
The Flynn scandal is a perfect example of the cost of making foreign policy on the fly.
Flynn was hired because he was one of very few prominent security professionals who endorsed the Trump candidacy early. Also, he was a fierce critic of Hillary Clinton's, leading raucous chants at the GOP convention of "Lock her up!"
But former military colleagues of Flynn told me he was hot-tempered, a bad manager, extremely hard to work with - and prone to conspiracy theories. These negative qualities got Flynn fired as head of the Defense Intelligence Agency under President Barack Obama.
They were hardly the qualities needed to advise a thin-skinned, ill-informed, conspiracy-minded president on national security issues. Famously unwilling to read more than a few bullet points and certain he knows everything, Trump needed a steadying hand more than any president in memory.
Yet under Flynn, National Security Council meetings were disorganized and dysfunctional. According to the New York Times, attendees struggled to keep up with Trump's tweets, which often contained stunning foreign policy pronouncements. Nor was the council informed of what Trump told foreign leaders in his phone calls.
This was not the normal presidential learning curve. One day Trump's tweets led the Mexican president to cancel a visit; on other days he rudely insulted the Australian and French prime ministers on the telephone. The president veered forward and backward, tweeting threats to junk key elements of long-standing U.S. policy on China, then eventually backing off in the face of Beijing anger.
Experienced Republican foreign policy hands were unwelcome for senior positions because they had criticized Trump during the campaign. Only weeks into Trump's presidency, White House infighting was already vicious, as chief strategist Steve Bannon muscled in on Flynn's role and jostled with Defense Secretary James Mattis.
The president (who damned Clinton for her security breaches) talked and tweeted on an unsecured cell phone and held key security talks on North Korea in an unsecured dining room at his Mar-a-Lago club house with diners snapping photos.
The world looks on agog at Trump's foreign policy reality show.
But on one issue Trump and Flynn remained in tandem: an unseemly eagerness to appease Vladimir Putin. And that brings us to the unfolding scandal that brought Michael Flynn down.
Supposedly, Flynn was fired because he lied to Vice President Pence about phone conversations with the Russian ambassador to Washington on Dec. 29 - right after Obama imposed sanctions on Moscow for hacking the U.S. elections. Flynn said he didn't speak to the ambassador about the sanctions; this would have broken an obscure law since Flynn did not yet hold office. Pence repeated this denial on TV.
Flynn got caught because U.S. security agencies were taping the Russian ambassador and someone leaked the transcripts to the Washington Post (the mercurial Flynn had a personal war ongoing with the intel community and the leak was payback).
But I don't believe Flynn's downfall came because he lost "the trust" of his bosses. After all, he was just following Trump's line, signaling to the Kremlin that once Trump took office the sanctions would probably be lifted.
And Trump was given the transcript of Flynn's conversation on Jan. 26, so - if trust was the issue - why not dump him before now?
Nor do I buy the claim that Flynn was subject to Russian blackmail because the Kremlin knew he lied to Pence. Moscow loves Flynn; he has appeared on the Kremlin's propaganda outlet, RT, for which he took money, and been photographed schmoozing with Putin. The Russians have no more interest in blackmailing Flynn than they do in smearing Putin's chief White House admirer - Trump.
No, I believe Flynn was fired because the leaks made the story go public, and embarrassed Pence. If the leaks hadn't happened, I'm certain Flynn would still hold his post.
Never mind that he worsened the utter confusion in the White House on foreign policy. Never mind his mistaken assumptions that big U.S. concessions to Putin will woo him away from his warm relations with Iran and China and create an ally against ISIS. After all, Trump thinks the same.
Flynn's departure won't stop Trump's tweets, or his nasty calls to allies (or his attacks on stores that don't carry Ivanka's brand). Nor will it instill cohesion into White House foreign policy. Even a more sober NSC adviser couldn't do that, unless two miracles occur.
First, Bannon, another prophet of chaos in the White House, would have to resign too. And the president would have to grasp the gravity of his office and stop behaving like a reality-TV star. But that would mean he could no longer be Trump.
http://www.philly.com/philly/opinion/20170215_Rubin__Why_Flynn_was_fired.html
montgomery
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Yes, the FBI definitely exposed Flynn's crimes and turned him.
The Trump supporters are truly faced with trying to spin Flynn the criminal as the poor mistreated victim and the FBI/Mueller as bullies. It's simply not going to work.
Flynn could have chosen to stand with Trump and eventually be pardoned. Because he was military and stood with his high ideals of America being the righteous, he realized that he had acted as a traitor to his country.
Sadly, he'll be commended for doing that as he is able to walk free. He should have rightfully been tried for treason, convicted, and sentenced to the death penalty. But be patient because that will all come out as Mueller reveals the whole truth and the extent of Trump's evil.
You're so willing to compromise your ideals old soldier! Archie Bunker would have never sold out the way you have.
You don't expect a cogent answer from a convicted fraudster with a history of mental illness like her, do you?
Robo
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Comey Told Congress FBI Agents Didn't Think Flynn Liedhttps://www.realclearpolitics.com/2018/02/13/comey_told_congress_fbi_agents_didn039t_think_flynn_lied_434274.html
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ess-fbi-agents-didnt-think-michael-flynn-lied
1. House report backs claim that FBI agents did not think Flynn lied ... https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ho...d-not-think-flynn-lied-despite-guilty-pleaApr 27, 2018 ... House report backs claim that FBI agents did not think Flynn lied, despite ... Comey, however, denied that he ever told lawmakers agents didn't ...
Robo
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I never expect any honest or rational conversation and or debate from the left, especially where the word "Trump" comes into the conversation. It never ceases to amaze me how some folks can simply close their minds and be brainwashed by partisan nonsense. And just think, they get that way because a proven felon Hillary Clinton got "Electoral College" trounced by The Donald.
Robo
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Yet, there's no news of his indictment, trial and conviction that I've noticed to this day. Can you please supply that info, I'm very interested in reading all about it.
Meh, they were the same during both Bush Administrations, and the Reagan Administration, and the Nixon Administration. Hatred and intolerance are their watchwords, and using the courts to reverse election results they don't like is their modus operandi.