What the Mueller investigation will tell us in the end.

Phantasmal said:
We don’t know everything Mueller had on these people, only the minimal crime he decided to use as to not reveal his full investigation. These people are too impatient.
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Too impatient? The investigation has been going on since May 17, 2017. You think that 18 months is insufficient time to determine if a campaign had stolen an election by colluding with Russians who presumably hacked into the DNC?

I almost have to laugh every time I type that. The Russians got Trump elected; how fucking dense does one have to be to buy into that one. While Obama is in charge nonetheless!!! :laugh:
 
Jarod said:
1) You are hopefully ignorant, it is illegal.
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What is? You have proven NOTHING.

Jarod said:
2) You misunderstand about what and how the report gets released, the House has subpoena power over it for example.
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You misunderstand how our judicial process works and the purpose of a special counsel. You think that if someone you don't like gets elected, it is okay to investigate them until we can find some kind of crime; that's Fascist and stupid.

Jarod said:
3) Why was Comey fired, we never got a straight answer about that?
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There doesn't need to be a reason; he serves at the pleasure of the President, not the Congress and certainly not the DNC. Was it illegal? Yes or no?
 
Jarod said:
Id use a different phrase, willfully ignorant.
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Yes it is willfully ignorant to impugn a Presidency or the office of the President on hearsay and innuendo. It is also willfully ignorant to impugn our electoral process just because one does not like the outcome.

So why are liberals and Democrats to willfully ignorant? Is it due to the fact that they seek political power regardless of the cost? That, of course, was rhetorical.
 
I expect Jarod to run away from this thread knowing he has nothing much like he does in every other thread he has ever started with such lame and incoherent arguments.
 
reagansghost said:
Mueller's investigation will reveal Trump's decades long efforts to build a huge cash cow in Moscow, working with whichever Russian despot, crashed and burned during his campaign, and included collusion with whichever Russian intel group by seedy Team Trump toady's as required, then was fully compromised by Putin after lying to the American people on the campaign trail about doing business in Russia

or something similar
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Is it illegal to do business in Russia? Can you please cite the law?
 
Jarod said:
Plenty of people are guilty of things they are never charged with.
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Like Hillary?

Thanks for finally coming around.

BTW in most plea deals prosecutors want to charge their star witness with the crime they are trying to get the big fish for

According to you Mueller could have charged Manafort with jaywalking to get him to flip.

That isn’t how it is supposed to work. I really hope you get what you want. You have a lot invested
 
Irish said:
Sure, but its all speculation. You keep asserting theories as facts, while showing no proof.
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Here are just a few of those facts. (And you should check out this terrific database on the Russia investigation from CNN's Russia team.)
1. There have been 192 criminal charges brought by Mueller.
2. With Michael Cohen pleading guilty to lying to congressional investigators about his ties to Russia on Thursday, there are now seven people who have pleaded guilty and agreed to cooperate with the Mueller probe.

3. Among those seven are: Cohen (Trump's former personal lawyer and fixer), Paul Manafort (former Trump campaign chairman), Rick Gates (former deputy campaign chairman) and Michael Flynn (former national security adviser). These are not low-level underlings.
4. Manafort, who is accused of breaking his plea deal by lying to Mueller's team, was convicted by a jury of his peers for his pre-Trump campaign work with the Ukrainian government.

5. Mueller was appointed as special counsel on May 17, 2017. That's 18 months ago. That's far shorter than other high-profile special investigations like it -- including Whitewater and Iran Contra, both of which lasted more than six years.

6. The direct costs that Congress has allocated for the special counsel's office is $10.4 million for fiscal year 2017 and $10.4 million for fiscal year 2018, which runs through September 2019. So the direct cost of the investigation could -- if the probe last until next September -- be north of $20 million. Not $40 million.

7. Three people -- Alex van der Zwaan, Richard Pinedo and George Papadopoulos -- have been sentenced to prison as a result of the Mueller investigation.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...donald-trump-mueller-investigation/index.html
 
Phantasmal said:
Here are just a few of those facts. (And you should check out this terrific database on the Russia investigation from CNN's Russia team.)
1. There have been 192 criminal charges brought by Mueller.
2. With Michael Cohen pleading guilty to lying to congressional investigators about his ties to Russia on Thursday, there are now seven people who have pleaded guilty and agreed to cooperate with the Mueller probe.

3. Among those seven are: Cohen (Trump's former personal lawyer and fixer), Paul Manafort (former Trump campaign chairman), Rick Gates (former deputy campaign chairman) and Michael Flynn (former national security adviser). These are not low-level underlings.
4. Manafort, who is accused of breaking his plea deal by lying to Mueller's team, was convicted by a jury of his peers for his pre-Trump campaign work with the Ukrainian government.

5. Mueller was appointed as special counsel on May 17, 2017. That's 18 months ago. That's far shorter than other high-profile special investigations like it -- including Whitewater and Iran Contra, both of which lasted more than six years.

6. The direct costs that Congress has allocated for the special counsel's office is $10.4 million for fiscal year 2017 and $10.4 million for fiscal year 2018, which runs through September 2019. So the direct cost of the investigation could -- if the probe last until next September -- be north of $20 million. Not $40 million.

7. Three people -- Alex van der Zwaan, Richard Pinedo and George Papadopoulos -- have been sentenced to prison as a result of the Mueller investigation.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...donald-trump-mueller-investigation/index.html
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All process crimes that would not have happened absent the investigation

Mueller has got nothing on the underlying crime

GayRod wants us to believe that Mueller has proof that Manafort, Cohen and Paladopolous all collided with Russia but decided to only get them for lying to FBI

ROFLMAO

GayRod will believe anything. He still believes Manafort met with Assange

ROFLMAO
 
Phantasmal said:
Oh, I know better, maybe it’s why you’re still single? Smoothie woochie!
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No dear Rana, you do not know better. Which is why you continue to project your emotions on to me. Sorry if your life is that rough. I'm doing quite well. You really should try to stop defending the idiots on the board. It is making you look rather sad.
 
Superfreak said:
No dear Rana, you do not know better. Which is why you continue to project your emotions on to me. Sorry if your life is that rough. I'm doing quite well. You really should try to stop defending the idiots on the board. It is making you look rather sad.
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Nah, and I know far more than you will ever realize :)
 
Irish said:
Sure, but its all speculation. You keep asserting theories as facts, while showing no proof.
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That is because, like his hero Avenatti, Garud lies a lot and he doesn't know the difference between facts a wild speculation. It is why he is forced to chase ambulances and hopefully get to victims while they are heavily medicated.
 
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