What was sooo Bad about PODESTA and DNC emails that has sent the left into a TIZZY

Guille said:
Yes, they are. See, most people don't actually know what they believe or why they believe it. They want to be slaves and that goes for some republicans just like it does for some democrats.
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If they quack left wing nonsense, they're left wing not right wing.
 
Guille said:
What is left wing nonsense? Totalitarianism? The nanny state?
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The mindset that one person that earned what they have somehow owes that to another person when they didn't. That wanting to keep more of what you earned is greedy while expecting a portion, however small, of what another person earned is not. That someone born a male can think they're a female because they feel that way. The concept that what a woman does with her body is her choice and no one else's business until she can't afford the results and it, therefore, becomes someone else's responsibility to support it.
 
CFM said:
The mindset that one person that earned what they have somehow owes that to another person when they didn't. That wanting to keep more of what you earned is greedy while expecting a portion, however small, of what another person earned is not. That someone born a male can think they're a female because they feel that way. The concept that what a woman does with her body is her choice and no one else's business until she can't afford the results and it, therefore, becomes someone else's responsibility to support it.
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So basically your problem is with money and not so much morality.
 
Guille said:
So basically your problem is with money and not so much morality.
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My problem is with the lack of personal responsibility people that demand someone else's money show toward themselves.

Morals can have nothing to do with it. Lefties have regularly said you can't legislate morals, that is, until they want to push their version of it.
 
Guille said:
So basically your problem is with money and not so much morality.
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I think the conversation moved on to the question of what is left wing nonsense.

Another aspect of this Russian hacking...the Comey letter was brought about by Huma and Anthony, classic lovebirds and close Hillary associates, and discovered by the FBI.

No Russian hackers involved.
 
CFM said:
My problem is with the lack of personal responsibility people that demand someone else's money show toward themselves.

Morals can have nothing to do with it. Lefties have regularly said you can't legislate morals, that is, until they want to push their version of it.
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I wouldn't go there, the GOP does that too.

I do think I have a handle on where you're coming from though and I don't disagree. Taxes should be for the benefit of society as a whole. I don't have a problem with a safety net either but I understand the counter-argument and can't dismiss it outright.
 
Guille said:
I wouldn't go there, the GOP does that too.

I do think I have a handle on where you're coming from though and I don't disagree. Taxes should be for the benefit of society as a whole. I don't have a problem with a safety net either but I understand the counter-argument and can't dismiss it outright.
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Taxes should be used for what the Constitution says the government has the authority to do. I have a problem with the safety net because those defending it do so under the guise that those with owe something to those without. The only was I owe it to another person or they deserve it is if I voluntarily hand it to them without mandate or punishment if I choose to not do so.
 
Starts smelling like pizza with all the flames going on up in here.

Trump alledgedly digs golden showers and the Podesta Bros are Toddler Gobblers.

Yeah. He's yugely bad...
 
CFM said:
Taxes should be used for what the Constitution says the government has the authority to do. I have a problem with the safety net because those defending it do so under the guise that those with owe something to those without. The only was I owe it to another person or they deserve it is if I voluntarily hand it to them without mandate or punishment if I choose to not do so.
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Actually, technically, your problem is with a federal safety net.
 
Guille said:
Actually, technically, your problem is with a federal safety net.
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Like I said, what the Constitution says the government has the authority to do.

It's not a safety net. It's a way for those not being responsible to be enable to remain irresponsible.
 
Guille said:
But states could do it.
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Like I said, what the Constitution gives government the authority to do.

It's like Romneycare in Massachusetts. While I don't support the concept as outlined in either Romneycare or Obamacare, I can make a distinction between the existence of the two based on the statement above. Don't confuse my thinking that a certain level of government, as the authority is outlined in the Constitution, being able to do something equates to me supporting the concepts behind it. I don't have to like what it does in order to view it as being within what the Constitution allows to be done. I don't have to support what something does in order to support the legality of it as long as it's done at the level of government according to what the Constitution says.

Also understand that whether a state does it or not is up to them. That's what reserved powers means in the 10th Amendment. It doesn't mean because it's within a state's authority to do so that a state has to do it. Reserved powers means that if the state chooses to do so, it can. To go even further, if a state doesn't choose to address an issue within it's reserved powers that, by default, it falls on the federal government.
 
CFM said:
Yet you still claim to no oppose social welfare programs on the federal level. That either makes you stupid or a liar.
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I already explained this in another thread. You're one of those huh? You picking and choosing what you like from multiple threads so you don't actually have to defend yourself in any of them?

Yep. Dogshitbagger.
 
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