What white privilege looks like - samurai sword-style...

[Cypress]

For the sake of discussion considering it was young people at a liberal campus who called the cops do they get it?

I would believe in a heart beat that some dorm kid from a liberal family called the cops, although we will never know.
I am on record over and over, stating that white people of all political stripes can profile, indulge the prejudices, and participate subconsciously in institutional racial and gender bias.

When I am staying in downtown Oakland, I have affluent liberal work colleagues who are afraid to go walk around on the streets with me - apparently finding a city core filled with blacks, Asians, Hispanics, and homeless, collectively a decidedly darker shade of humanity than they are used to, strange, intimidating, or whatever their problem is. So I ditch them, and tool around on my own!

But you know what I have learned in 15 years of message board adventures? There is only one political ideology who's members are open to consider the adverse consequences of institutional racism and sexism, to at least acknowledge it's existence. and to endeavor to make strides towards self-improvement and self-reflection.

And that would be the liberal ideology.

You know perfectly well, as do I, that the conservative ideology in large measure is in complete denial of the malignancy of lingering institutional discrimination in this nation.

 

[cawacko]

I would believe in a heart beat that some dorm kid from a liberal family called the cops, although we will never know.
I am on record over and over, stating that white people of all political stripes can profile, indulge the prejudices, and participate subconsciously in institutional racial and gender bias.

When I am staying in downtown Oakland, I have affluent liberal work colleagues who are afraid to go walk around on the streets with me - apparently finding a city core filled with blacks, Asians, Hispanics, and homeless, collectively a decidedly darker shade of humanity than they are used to, strange, intimidating, or whatever their problem is. So I ditch them, and tool around on my own!

But you know what I have learned in 15 years of message board adventures? There is only one political ideology who's members are open to consider the adverse consequences of institutional racism and sexism, to at least acknowledge it's existence. and to endeavor to make strides towards self-improvement and self-reflection.

And that would be the liberal ideology.

You know perfectly well, as do I, that the conservative ideology in large measure is in complete denial of the malignancy of lingering institutional discrimination in this nation.

It's funny to hear black friends talk about Oakland now. A buddy who grew up there said he saw a group of young white kids walking through west Oakland recently and he was like WTF?!?! Haha. Another black friend said he saw an old white lady walking her dog in DT Oakland and had the same wtf reaction. One way or the other neighborhoods and areas generally change. DT Oakland is an interesting place. I worked there my first year out of college in '96 and after 5:00 it was a ghost town. When Jerry Brown was mayor he worked to build housing downtown and it has helped to liven up the area. Much more fun now.

Acknowledging institutional racism is great but doing something about it is a whooole other issue and I'll point to housing where the actions don't match the rhetoric.

 

[Bigdog]

You know perfectly well, as do I, that the conservative ideology in large measure is in complete denial of the malignancy of lingering institutional discrimination in this nation.

And it's at such epidemic levels ... that you have to post a story that is a lie ... in order to "make your point"

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

You're right we don't know. There are conservatives on liberal campuses just as there are liberals on conservative campuses. Just my opinion but I don't think this story shows young people in some exemplary fashion.

I think the story was meant to show the difference between being a white person and being a black person in this country, and how the difference is seen and responded to.

 

[cawacko]

I think the story was meant to show the difference between being a white person and being a black person in this country, and how the difference is seen and responded to.

I'm saying this in a friendly tone but of all stories to highlight it's one where someone is holding any kind of gun, even if it is only a glue gun?

 

[Cypress]

I'm saying this in a friendly tone but of all stories to highlight it's one where someone is holding any kind of gun, even if it is only a glue gun?

This is a university in which hundreds of students take art classes, year after year, decade after decade. Literally hundreds, if not thousands of (mostly white) Colgate University students have walked around campus with glue guns.

Do you think it is sheer coincidence that a black student working on an art project was singled out for a campus wide panic??

 

[cawacko]

I think the story was meant to show the difference between being a white person and being a black person in this country, and how the difference is seen and responded to.

Since we're sharing personal stories/experiences my brother in law is black and is President of a software firm in the Silicon Valley. I saw a cop pull up to him when he was standing in front of his $3 million home and ask if he was the Gardner. I think my jaw still hurts from hitting the ground so fast.

 

[cawacko]

This is a university in which hundreds of students take art classes, year after year, decade after decade. Literally hundreds, if not thousands of (mostly white) Colgate University students have walked around campus with glue guns.

Do you think it is sheer coincidence that a black student working on an art project was singled out for a campus wide panic??

No, it's fvcked up. Not a question. But it's hard to deny the irony about a gun. (not that it is important but just saying)

 

[Minister of Truth]

I would believe in a heart beat that some dorm kid from a liberal family called the cops, although we will never know.
I am on record over and over, stating that white people of all political stripes can profile, indulge the prejudices, and participate subconsciously in institutional racial and gender bias.

When I am staying in downtown Oakland, I have affluent liberal work colleagues who are afraid to go walk around on the streets with me - apparently finding a city core filled with blacks, Asians, Hispanics, and homeless, collectively a decidedly darker shade of humanity than they are used to, strange, intimidating, or whatever their problem is. So I ditch them, and tool around on my own!

But you know what I have learned in 15 years of message board adventures? There is only one political ideology who's members are open to consider the adverse consequences of institutional racism and sexism, to at least acknowledge it's existence. and to endeavor to make strides towards self-improvement and self-reflection.

And that would be the liberal ideology.

You know perfectly well, as do I, that the conservative ideology in large measure is in complete denial of the malignancy of lingering institutional discrimination in this nation.

I recommend that you listen to your colleagues and avoid walking around the streets of Oakland.

 

[Sirthinksalot]

I think the story was meant to show the difference between being a white person and being a black person in this country, and how the difference is seen and responded to.

What about the difference between some people's hysteria regarding firearms versus other lethal objects?

 

[USFREEDOM911]

This is a university in which hundreds of students take art classes, year after year, decade after decade. Literally hundreds, if not thousands of (mostly white) Colgate University students have walked around campus with glue guns.

Do you think it is sheer coincidence that a black student working on an art project was singled out for a campus wide panic??

I think it's sheer stupidity to try and say this has anything to do with privilege.

 

[tsuke]

could it be that in college people dont mind others wielding samurai swords as they think its for some nerdy purpose and cant really kill en masse while they are concerned about something that may look like a gun?

 

[RB 60]

Particularly white conservative males, who all have victim cards stapled to their own foreheads.

18 years ago. Suburb of St. Louis, MO. Two work buddies, working moms who didn't make much money, both drove old beaters to work. One buddy was white, the other black. They both had a 15-mile commute, from opposite directions. One lost her muffler on a gravel country road with a big divot in it; the other lost hers to a pothole on her suburban street. Neither had the money to get the mufflers fixed right away. Within a week both were pulled over by the local cops by the place of employment. One was just told by the young man to get that fixed because the law says you got to have a muffler. The other got a $35 ticket for not having a muffler.

Guess which one got the ticket?

It wasn't me.

Although I believe this "story" is utter bullshit, simply because this "incident" doubtfully happened at the same time and by the same cop,
if there is any truth to it, that cop probably pitied the poor white woman who was obviously beaten hard with the ugly stick and left her go.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Although I believe this "story" is utter bullshit, simply because this "incident" doubtfully happened at the same time and by the same cop,
if there is any truth to it, that cop probably pitied the poor white woman who was obviously beaten hard with the ugly stick and left her go.

I'm sure that the white woman, who didn't get the ticket, immediately went down to the Police Station, demanded that she be treated equally, and issued one also; seeing as how they were "work buddies".

 

[Teflon Don]

This student explains white privilege after a black sophomore caused a campus lockdown for carrying a glue gun to class



https://thetab.com/us/2017/05/05/colgate-glue-gun-student-66854

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[Teflon Don]

The broad in the story was probably Cawackos relative and she is just virtue signaling for BACs approval


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[Taichiliberal]

liberal arts students freak out over a glue gun, but let's blame whitey

Who the hell do you think runs the campus, you dip stick!?!?! Typical brain dead bigot response by you....ignore the FACTS staring you in the face in favor of your prejudice presumptions.

 

[Taichiliberal]

For those who still don't get it (or don't want to hear about it):


http://sk.sagepub.com/video/tim-wise-on-white-privilege

 

[Althea]

Hey, take it up with the author of the article you linked to, because it reads, "Jenny Lundt, a sophomore at Colgate, wrote about how she was able to regularly carry a sword around school without attracting police attention".

So why is there only one picture of her with the sword, and it's not taken in the quad? Lol, libs will believe anything.

Colgate is in NY. The knife laws in NY delineate between simply carrying one, and brandishing one as a weapon. If this girl was 'running around the quad' brandishing it as she is in the picture, that's probably illegal.

Of course, her claim is that she doesn't get reported, so she gets away with breaking the law.

 

[Althea]

Indeed.
Virtually all human beings are subject to prejudice, bias, and profiling. Does not matter if one is liberal or conservative. The important thing is to recognize it, to acknowledge privilege is a real thing, and try to work at self-improvement.

I basically can count on one hand the number of white conservatives who recognize institutional racism, sexism, and white privilege exist in this country.

Generally, they'll refer to AA as just the opposite of white privilege. Hey...we had a thread about those 'get out of jail free' cards in NYC.

Having special treatment is one thing. Recognizing that you do is another.