When Mitt loses this elction the right will hate him again

The Democrats did not allow the Occupy people to take over a major portion of the party.
 
I saw where 25% of Ohio Repubilcans give Mitt Romney credit for killing OBL. How can you work with that kind of crazy.
 
blackascoal said:
The problems with the Republican Party run even deeper. They cannot continue to win national elections when their party is virtually all white.

There are many thinking republicans who are speaking to this truth today.

In order to adopt to changing demographics, they will have to change their agenda, outlook, and vision. I'm not sure they have that capability, but they will not be able to attract non-white voters with a confederate flag in the background and Rick Santorum at the podium.

What I expect and hope for is the breakdown of both major parties.

The Democratic Party push to the right will continue to alienate the left .. which the Democratic Party does not represent.

Republicans on the right .. democrats in the center/right .. and the emergence of various political parties on the left, right, and in between.
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I would gladdly become a republican if they go for the real winning ideas.


You know the ones that include EVERY American as an equal and ideas that WORK based on facts.


the names of the partys mean nothing to me its the ideas that matter.


If the Rs did this right in ten years they can be the party of ideas and facts.
 
GWB did such damage to the Republican brand that Willard is still suffering badly. Presidents Clinton and Obama have been able to tie those policies to Willard's neck like an anchor. "We cant afford to double down on trickle down."
 
The other problem for the Republicans is that our culture has taken a step foward on social issues and they are, in typical fasion, dragging there heels.
 
evince said:
I would gladdly become a republican if they go for the real winning ideas.


You know the ones that include EVERY American as an equal and ideas that WORK based on facts.


the names of the partys mean nothing to me its the ideas that matter.


If the Rs did this right in ten years they can be the party of ideas and facts.
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:rofl2:
 
FactsRStubborn said:
Yes. A true conservative would have drawn stark contrasts with Maobama and won the election. That is why during the GOP primary there was a concerted effort by the lame stream media to clear the field for Romney
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Don't look now brother but there is nothing remotely liberal or moderate about Romney's agenda. In fact, his agenda is right in line with his handlers, the Tea Party. His agenda is far-right .. and that's the distinction that I'm talking about.

A true MODERATE conservative could have, and probably would have beaten Obama.

A MODERATE conservative who avoided all the knuckle-headed social issues that Romney didn't.

A MODERATE conservative in the vein of Jack Kemp who would not have offended the base on the left and sent them running to the polls to beat him or her .. would not have energized Obama's base which was otherwise disappointed and frustrated with him.

The distinction is all-important.

But teabaggers chased the moderates out of your party. Whose fault is that?
 
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that is how stupid you are FRS.


you are so stuck in thinking about labels you completely ignore facts to benifit you label.



There is a time in history I would have been a republican and I can see a time in the future I will be a republican.


If the Dems are allowed to go unchallenged for a few years without a healthy second party to challenge them guess who buys them out.

The wealthy fucks who have bought your party and brought it to ruin.

They nearly ruined our whole country and they will try agian under any fucking name.
 
Jarod said:
I saw where 25% of Ohio Repubilcans give Mitt Romney credit for killing OBL. How can you work with that kind of crazy.
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I'd say about 75% of Americans think OBL did 9/11.

That's the kind of uninformed, misinformed crazy that this nation is.
 
blackascoal said:
Unknown.

What has been PROVEN by thorough investigation by the best terrorism investigative units on the planet .. is that it was not Bin Laden.

There isn't a shred of evidence that connects him to it.
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Do you delieve it was a false flag operation perpetrated by the Neo-cons?
 
Damocles said:
I think early polls are equal to fantasy.

At this point, Dukakis was beating Bush too, by (I think) 8.
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Are you ever right about anything? You were wrong about Reagan-Carter (at this point they were tied) and you're wrong about Bush- Dukakis (Bush was up 8, not Dukakis).
 
Rune said:
Do you delieve it was a false flag operation perpetrated by the Neo-cons?
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The "New Pearl Harbor"

Of course it was ..

.. but don't get me beat up for derailing this thread.

I'll be glad to discuss it with you in an appropriate thread good brother.
 
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