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Uwaa OmO
Your rights do not trump my rights. And in response to your third assertion, in MI, for example, private clubs ARE NOT EXEMPT.
Which Poster Hates Freedom the Most?
- Thread starter Minister of Truth
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DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
Actually they do, for the reasons stated.
You also have the right to shoot a gun, but not across a public street. It comes down to personal responsibility. With rights comes your personal responsibility to keep your actions from harming the public.
Its not my fault you live in a shitty state run by lib-tard Democrats. Take the private club issue up with the State of Michigan, not me.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
You're accusation has been addressed by facts so instead of replying to these facts you ignore them and repeat your same baseless allegation. Fail.
I succeeded almost as well as the shamefacing you received earlier in this thread. you claim to be about freedom, but what you are really about is only your freedom and everyone elses freedom takes a back seat to yours. this is called elitism, which makes you no better than any liberal.
I thought I made that clear, IMO it does not. It does restrict your right to smoke where you wish without regard to the rights of others, however.
Minister of Truth
Practically Perfect
I succeeded almost as well as the shamefacing you received earlier in this thread. you claim to be about freedom, but what you are really about is only your freedom and everyone elses freedom takes a back seat to yours. this is called elitism, which makes you no better than any liberal.
What's wrong with elitism?
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
I succeeded almost as well as the shamefacing you received earlier in this thread. you claim to be about freedom, but what you are really about is only your freedom and everyone elses freedom takes a back seat to yours. this is called elitism, which makes you no better than any liberal.
.You're accusation has been addressed by facts so instead of replying to these facts you ignore them and repeat your same baseless allegation. Fail.
Truck Fump / h1b
Verified User
It's a particularly assholish mindset which justifies mistreatment of others, cruelty, genocide, and any other bad thing you can think of. elitism tells assholes they're "better" when really they're just assholes.
AnyOldIron
Atheist Missionary
I hate freedom. It sucks.
Truck Fump / h1b
Verified User
only the bottom up viewpoint of atomistic comprehension will reveal the underlying principles of the collective. The top down approach is theoretical error, so divorced from reality, it has not operational or predictive value and relies on delusion and murder to sustain itself.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
has england successfully discredited the winston churchill era yet?
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
Typical liberal sentiment. Nice that you admit it though.
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WinterBorn
Guest
LMAO! From you that is hilarious.
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
AnyOldIron
Atheist Missionary
What is freedom?
Truck Fump / h1b
Verified User
its mostly a word. People who must work for the fascists for their bread are not free. you're free when you have enough resources to not go to work. freedom is not the choice between slave labor coroporation a or slave labor corporation b.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
Keeping what you earned.
AnyOldIron
Atheist Missionary
That would be what is described as negative freedom.
You might find this interesting:
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/liberty-positive-negative/
Liberty
Libertarian Minded
What is freedom? Freedom is the right to choose: the right to create for
oneself the alternatives of choice. Without the possibility of choice and the
exercise of choice a man is not a man but a member, an instrument, a
thing.
Truck Fump / h1b
Verified User
Except for this:
freedom is not the choice between slave labor coroporation a or slave labor corporation b.