WHITE HOUSE RACE HOTS UP: Now Trump draws LEVEL with Clinton in the polls

Mott the Hoople said:
Well for one, national polls at that small a sample are not that meaningful given our electoral system. Secondly though Clinton has seen a small decline where have those voters gone? Trump has not seen a corresponding increase in his poll numbers.
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there is no question that third party candidates are hurting Hillary more than they are Trump......do you think she will have them killed before the election?.......
 
I don't think people are reading the data correctly. Recent national polls have shown both Clinton and Trump support declining slightly. Clinton has lost about 3%. Trump, however has not gained from her loss. In fact he's lost about 1%. The data clearly shows they have both lost support to Johnson, Stein and undecideds.so anyone reading this as a gain for Trump is bullshitting themselves. Particularly considering Clinton is leading in electoral college polling ~340 to Trumps ~ 200.
 
Thing1 said:
Well, to be fair, that works both ways this time.

Pretty much any other Republican, and Hillary would be trailing right now. If it was Kasich, she wouldn't even be close.
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LOL, he would be acceptable to far more ppl & someone I would certainly listen to......... To bad no one wanted to hear what the actual best candidate had to say. They preferred the carni barker telling them what they wanted to hear even if he was making it all up. Sad really..
 
Mott the Hoople said:
so anyone reading this as a gain for Trump is bullshitting themselves. Particularly considering Clinton is leading in electoral college polling ~340 to Trumps ~ 200.
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of course no one would consider that fact that he is closer to her might be a gain.....at least not anyone desperately clinging to the possibility of a Hilliary win......and such a person might even pretend Hilliary has 340 electoral votes......
 
Polls are a joke. Pay attention to who's showing up to each respective nominee's functions and get your info from outside the lame-stream media.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Remain? Huh? You said that I said something similar about Brexit when I hadn't. In fact I made no predictions on Brexit. I still haven't.
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I believe you said that the UK would be mad to leave the EU and that it was in our best interests to stay.

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Milagro said:

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Donald Trump has pulled into an effective tie with Democratic rival Hillary Clinton

The Republican presidential candidate has erased a substantial deficit as he consolidated support among his party's likely voters in recent weeks, according to a Reuters/Ipsos national tracking poll released Friday. The poll showed 40 per cent of likely voters supporting Trump and 39 per cent backing Clinton for the week of 26 August to 1 September. Mrs Clinton's support has dropped steadily in the weekly tracking poll since August 25, eliminating what had been a eight-point lead for her.

Mr Trump's gains came as Republican support for their party's candidate jumped by six per cent over the past two weeks, to about 78 per cent.
That is still below the 85 per cent support Republican nominee Mitt Romney enjoyed in the summer of 2012, but the improvement helps explain Mr Trump's rise in the poll. The Reuters/Ipsos poll is conducted online in English in all 50 states.

The latest poll surveyed 1,804 likely voters over the course of the week; it had a credibility interval, a measure of accuracy, of three per cent.
Different polls have produced widely different results over the course of the campaign. In part that's because some, like Reuters/Ipsos, have attempted to measure the preferences of who's likely to vote, while others have surveyed the larger pool of all registered voters.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/706890/White-House-race-Donald-Trump-level-Hillary-Clinton-polls
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We also have to consider the people who are never counted in these polls .. the people who haven't voted for the last two to three election cycles.

I've said all along that the republicans should tap into a virtual goldmine, the voter eligible, non voting segment of the country and I believe that Trump will do exactly that in considerable numbers.
 
philly rabbit said:
We also have to consider the people who are never counted in these polls .. the people who haven't voted for the last two to three election cycles.

I've said all along that the republicans should tap into a virtual goldmine, the voter eligible, non voting segment of the country and I believe that Trump will do exactly that in considerable numbers.
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Hispanics are registering to vote in record numbers in key electoral states, Trump doesn't have a chance with those voters.
 
Rana said:
Hispanics are registering to vote in record numbers in key electoral states, Trump doesn't have a chance with those voters.
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Perhaps many are thinking he finally turned the corner, afterall he went down to Mexico & didn't insult the Presidente' & Mexican ppl till he got back home to the states..?? Hey, he has to start somewhere, right?? :rolleyes:
 
Mott the Hoople said:
I don't think people are reading the data correctly. Recent national polls have shown both Clinton and Trump support declining slightly. Clinton has lost about 3%. Trump, however has not gained from her loss. In fact he's lost about 1%. The data clearly shows they have both lost support to Johnson, Stein and undecideds.so anyone reading this as a gain for Trump is bullshitting themselves. Particularly considering Clinton is leading in electoral college polling ~340 to Trumps ~ 200.
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A relative gain is still a gain.

Hillary is a shade over the margin of error in both the RCP Poll and the RCP 4 way average poll. That's why I'm saying if the election were today voter turnout would be critical.

Granted, the election is won or lost on electoral grounds but it's not like you can just slough off national polls numbers---at some point they are going to influence the electoral college. But even in the battle ground states, Hillary has lost ground.

Only two states [VA and PA] are gimmes for Hillary, while the rest either teeter around the margin of error or fall well under it.
 
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