Trump could be inviting him to pull a Khashoggi on him......Hehehehehe.....
"White House says Turkey's Erdogan to visit Nov. 13"
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Trump could be inviting him to pull a Khashoggi on him......Hehehehehe.....
All that makes it all copacetic? Trump abondoning the US ally in its fight against ISIS is rationalized cause some official from Turkey says they will only advance twenty miles? And who do you think lives in that twenty miles? Currently Turkey is bombing Kurd installations to include Kurdish villages, and you are happy with some twenty mile promise?
Point being, Monday sold the Kurds down the drain, via twitter no less, Turkey starts bombing Kurds in anticipation of an invasion, and Tuesday Trump invites the individual responsible for that bombing of a loyal US ally to the White House as his "guest." And you don't see this as a problem?
this is what you wrote
which is not true-why I asked for a cite.
I know what the warhawks are saying -they say a lot of jingoistic shit to justify staying in Syria.
But if you want to war game it -OK fine.
1.this is a very narrow incursion,and only along a small area of the border.
Turkey has overwhelming firepower advantage,and reports show they are moving in quickly right behing softening the Kurds.
The Kurds guarding the prisoner are detailed as such, and there is no reason to say they will leave them
unattended or "jailbreaks" or the other hoopla I'm hearing.
2.If they are not in the fighting zone they would have to advance against the Turkish air/army, which really cant be done without being seen and targeted..so no they aren't going to leave the prisoners and advance into the fighting
So no -this is a false premise
So Trump didn't "abondon" the Kurds, via a tweet no less? And the Kurds haven't been our ally in fighting ISIS, actually, one of the few allies fighting ISIS on the ground? And one day after Trump shits on the Kurds he invites the guy currently bombing their villages to the White House, and you don't see a problem with this?
I've gone over this ad nauseum
I am not debating the entire operation over and over.
I will say 20 miles is much less then I thought and I can only think of 2 towns where we might have had Special forces, which would not have stopped the op.
Erdogan has been wanting to go in since the caliphate was destroyed it was in the cards with or without a few US forces
Darth Omar
Russian asset
Who’s been telling you it was a problem?
Erdogan is an ally *according to treaty*. If you want to argue Turkey has no business being in NATO I’m all ears.
What's that? A regular American citizen who loves her country but despises the kowtowing egomaniacal despot-ass-kissing shitgibbon in our White House?
It's sad what YOU'VE become: An apologist for a treasonous grifter who throws our allies under the bus when it suits him, and begs foreign countries to fuck around in our elections.
Trump is dead inside, therefore, he has no sense of anything. He's a greedy zombie-like parasite that exists to suck up all the wealth he can regardless of the means.
Oh, so now Trump does know more than the Pentagon and even his own intelligence entities on the situation, and you really think the Kurds are going to just give up cause Turkey is supposedly moving too fast for them to counter?
And now you are telling us that the Kurds, who watched Trump abandon them, and are experiencing Turkish bombardment while Trump invites the person responsible for that bombardment as his "guest" to the White House, are going to help out Trump and not come to the aid of their countrymen but rather continue to guard the ISIS prisoners sworn to fight the US?
Hardly a "false premise," rather a likely probability, there was a reason I included a military source as verification
And it is noticeable that you didn't respond to the simple question of Trump inviting to the White House one day after Trump abandons via tweet the Kurds the very person now bombing the Kurds
How's that bromance and nuclear disarmament with Kim going? Or shouldn't we talk about that?
Hope you got BOB fresh batteries for tonight's rally.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
How many home runs have the Pentagon and the ‘intelligence agencies’ [something of an oxymoron lately] hit in the Middle East in the last 20 years lol?
Oh, so inviting to the White House as your "guest" the very person who one day after you kiss off an ally is bombing that ally is copacetic? That is a great message to send to the world community, and surely they noticed
Good luck finding another ally for intelligence or actual ground fighting if situations in the Middle East demand such, better yet, finding an ally with Trump promises
What ever it is it is higher than Trump's
How's that bromance and nuclear disarmament with Kim going? Or shouldn't we talk about that?
Hope you got BOB fresh batteries for tonight's rally.
And Trump abandons allies on the bull shit premise of removing troops for their sake but sends troops to the Saudis who butchered a journalist alive and produced the 9/11 hijackers.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
No one in the Middle East is going to turn down military help from the US.
You keep falling back on the boilerplate ‘ally’ thing. If and when it happens the Kurds find us useful, they will welcome us as ‘allies’.
Take it to the bank.
it wouldn't be the first time the Pentagon endorsed Iraq and Libya.
They are warhawks -they skew their thinking as such
I explained to you the logistics would make it impossible or very difficult/ these are what you don't get while watching expert on TV.
They talk in general terms of "abandoning the Kurds", but don't drill down to the operational level and game it
TYey were wrong about "jailbreaks and other crap as well -you would do better thinking things thru for yourself
"military sources" would have us in perpetual deployment.
Unless you see a step by step war game analysis -at least take it with a jaundiced eye.
I'm fine with it. They need to meet up we have lots of mutual concerns, and conflicts to work thru
I remember when Obama came to the Kurds rescue with all our troops and supplies when they were getting gassed by Assad? The great humanitarian efforts he did were, well, non existent. Never happened. Were you upset then? I was. Am now.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
Trump has yet to make an error lol.
Give us a ballpark figure. How many Home Runs have the ‘experts’ hit in the Middle East?
we will when we need it if it meets the needs of a potential partner.
It's called "transactionalism" -or I call it realpolitik.
If it's in a states interest the will do it - if not they wont.
Hopefully Trumps goal of STAYING THE FUCK OUT OF FOREIGN CIVIL WARS means we wont need them