Who does Ron Paul REALLY serve?

blackascoal said:
My brother .. you cannot be suggesting that the congress he's running against would be the protection that saves America from him. If that's the case .. why would we need him?

I never said that "under Paul all this would happen" because I know that he doesn't have the ability to make anything happen even if he were the president. A look at his vapid legislative record is a glaring demonstration that he doesn't know how to make things happen politically.

What I'm countering is AHZ's assertion that Paul does not serve the corporate elite. Yes he does. And I'm arguing the inconsistency of libertarian thought on corporations. You cannot be anti-corporate and for removing all limits, restrictions, and regulations on the "free market" both at the same time. It's illogical

Unleash the "free market" to do whatever they want to the American people and corporations won't need subsidies. Remove all campaign finance restrictions as Paul wants to do and corporations will simply buy the congress. Remove Supreme Court oversight from impending legislation as Paul wants to do and lobbyists will be writing the law of the land.

Whether he has the ability to accomplish his delusional myopic fantasy is not the point. These are the issues he's running on and what he believes.

Libertarians and Paul supporters want it both ways. They want Paul and libertarian thought discussed in a positive light but don't want any critique or scrutiny of what's under that light .. which is not what I'm suggesting that you're trying to do.
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I actually think you nailed me, blackascoal. mark this day on your calendar.

yep. and Any libertarian who says he's for enforcing the borders is also not a real libertarian.
 
blackascoal said:
FRAUD NUMBER ONE

"While Ron Paul is leading in all polls for the Republican presidential race"

The latest (8/4) polls

Newsweek Poll
Ron Paul - 2%

NBC News/Wall Street Journal Poll
Ron Paul - 2%

Pew Research Center for the People & the Press Survey
Ron Paul - 2%

Diageo/Hotline Poll
Ron Paul - 2%

ABC News/Washington Post Poll
Ron Paul - 2%

FOX News/Opinion Dynamics Poll
Ron Paul - 2%

CBS News/New York Times Poll
Ron Paul - ? (Other)

Gallup Poll
Ron Paul - 3%

Zogby America Poll
Ron Paul - 1%

American Research Group poll
Ron Paul - 1%

Associated Press-Ipsos poll
Ron Paul - 0%

CNN/Opinion Research Corporation Poll
Ron Paul - 2%

Cook Political Report/RT Strategies Poll
Ron Paul - 2%

Quinnipiac University Poll
Ron Paul - 1%

Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg Poll
Ron Paul - 0%

McLaughlin & Associates
Ron Paul - 0%

http://pollingreport.com/wh08rep.htm

WHERE ARE THESE POLLS HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE LEADING IN?

In the scientific polls, only one have him with as much as 3% and he averages about 1.67% among all polls.

FRAUD NUMBER TWO



If this were true, where is the money? Howard Dean raised MILLIONS on the internet and Obama has raised even more MILLIONS on the net than Dean. Paul has raised 2.3 million and all of that did not come from the net.
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Black, this was just the first story that popped up whenever I typed "Ron Paul" into google news. I was just trying to make a joke... at least beefy got it...
 
Watermark said:
Black, this was just the first story that popped up whenever I typed "Ron Paul" into google news. I was just trying to make a joke... at least beefy got it...
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I pretty much consider most stuff about Ron Paul to be a joke. But you have to put a big ass smiley face on a post like that because this is America.

Even after Bush himself was forced to admit that Saddam had no connection to 9/11 a sizeble percentage of Americans still believed that bullshit.

I was just making sure nobody took that seriously.
 
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