Who is Jonathan Ross? ICE agent who killed Renee Good

domer76 said:
Unless the feds ignore a court’s order, and they’ve pushed it to the max in the past, they can’t just hide him if he’s charged by the state.

SCOTUS gave Trump, as president, immunity for official acts. I don’t know if that applies to appointed officials. I doubt it.

There is no pardon for state convictions.
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My friend, the feds have already ignored a law - 12/19 all the Epstein docs were supposed to be released. It was a law trump signed, not a "suggestion". Bondi and her thugs are playing patty-cake with America. So if you think a court order or a law is going to stop trump's crime-ing - I just don't think so, based on recent history.
 
LurchAddams said:
My friend, the feds have already ignored a law - 12/19 all the Epstein docs were supposed to be released. It was a law trump signed, not a "suggestion". Bondi and her thugs are playing patty-cake with America. So if you think a court order or a law is going to stop trump's crime-ing - I just don't think so, based on recent history.
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I don’t know if the courts have weighed in on Epstein or whether there’s anybody really pushing the envelope on it.

After seeing Minnesota’s AG, if they decide to charge, they will press it to the max.

Yep, there will be fed roadblocks, but the state has resources as well. Time will tell.
 
domer76 said:
I don’t know if the courts have weighed in on Epstein or whether there’s anybody really pushing the envelope on it.

After seeing Minnesota’s AG, if they decide to charge, they will press it to the max.

Yep, there will be fed roadblocks, but the state has resources as well. Time will tell.
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Alright, my friend - like you, I hope justice is done.
 

anonymoose said:
Wlhat struck me was that the ICE agent was forced to jump out of the way so as to not get hit.
And he still got hit.
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When the wife said drive baby drive she drove right at him as she tried to get away.... He had what...A second to react? Of course he's gonna defend himself.. He doesn't know what her intention is... He just knows the car went into gear and accelerator... He was at the front of the vehicle because the wife was following and taunting him and urging him in that direction... She knows she's responsible for giving the directions that led to actions that resulted in her death.... How different it would have been if she would have just reached in and shut off the car....Or Renee just gets out... Which is what most people would have done.... If she got arrested she would have been out in an hour....
 
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When the wife said drive baby drive she drove right at him as she tried to get away.... He had what...A second to react? Of course he's gonna defend himself.. He doesn't know what her intention is... He just knows the car went into gear and accelerator... He was at the front of the vehicle because the wife was following and taunting him and urging him in that direction... She knows she's responsible for giving the directions that led to actions that resulted in her death.... How different it would have been if she would have just reached in and shut off the car....Or Renee just gets out... Which is what most people would have done.... If she got arrested she would have been out in an hour....
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Not even close.

He was FRONT LEFT as all videos and the windshield shot shows, with CLEAR visibility of her turning the steering wheel to the right.

She does not have to comply with illegal orders, which these were. ICE is not law enforcement nor have ANY authority to try to extricate her from her car. A violation of unreasonable search and seizure.

They violated all rules of jurisdiction, training, protocol and the Constitution and unnecessarily escalated a non-hostile situation.

Murder.
 
domer76 said:
Not even close.

He was FRONT LEFT as all videos and the windshield shot shows, with CLEAR visibility of her turning the steering wheel to the right.

She does not have to comply with illegal orders, which these were. ICE is not law enforcement nor have ANY authority to try to extricate her from her car. A violation of unreasonable search and seizure.

They violated all rules of jurisdiction, training, protocol and the Constitution and unnecessarily escalated a non-hostile situation.

Murder.
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What is ICE and what powers do its agents have to use force?​


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Its agents can stop, detain and arrest people they suspect of being in the US illegally. The agents' legal permission to enter a home or other private space requires a signed judicial warrant.

Agents can detain US citizens in limited circumstances, such as if a person interferes with an arrest, assaults an officer, or ICE suspect the person of being in the US illegally....
 
LurchAddams said:
My friend, the feds have already ignored a law - 12/19 all the Epstein docs were supposed to be released. It was a law trump signed, not a "suggestion". Bondi and her thugs are playing patty-cake with America. So if you think a court order or a law is going to stop trump's crime-ing - I just don't think so, based on recent history.
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Take them too court Lurch.
 
domer76 said:
He’d best take a plea to manslaughter. A jury will find him guilty of second degree murder. No doubt.
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In absentia?

Will Jonathan Ross be prosecuted?

No, Jonathan Ross is unlikely to be prosecuted in the near term, and there are significant legal and political barriers that make state-level charges difficult or impossible.
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domer76 said:
Three shots. All not from in front of the vehicle. Two after it had passed the shooter. He’s fucked.
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TOP said:
When the wife said drive baby drive she drove right at him as she tried to get away.... He had what...A second to react? Of course he's gonna defend himself.. He doesn't know what her intention is... He just knows the car went into gear and accelerator... He was at the front of the vehicle because the wife was following and taunting him and urging him in that direction... She knows she's responsible for giving the directions that led to actions that resulted in her death.... How different it would have been if she would have just reached in and shut off the car....Or Renee just gets out... Which is what most people would have done.... If she got arrested she would have been out in an hour....
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Sorry sweetpea, but the video tells a different tale. www.instagram.com/reel/DTQT6VrAX-Q/
 
FastLane said:

What is ICE and what powers do its agents have to use force?​


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Its agents can stop, detain and arrest people they suspect of being in the US illegally. The agents' legal permission to enter a home or other private space requires a signed judicial warrant.

Agents can detain US citizens in limited circumstances, such as if a person interferes with an arrest, assaults an officer, or ICE suspect the person of being in the US illegally....
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Yep. Except no assault or interference took place.

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anonymoose said:
In absentia?

Will Jonathan Ross be prosecuted?

No, Jonathan Ross is unlikely to be prosecuted in the near term, and there are significant legal and political barriers that make state-level charges difficult or impossible.
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Yeah, the barriers are the feds blocking their access.
 
domer76 said:
No interference. They were able to walk completely around her car and even record it. Unimpeded.

No assault. The evidence shows she was steering AWAY from the ICE guy, who was violating every protocol possible, including her constitutional rights.

Murder.
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They were there interfering with an operation that was happening... She moved the car right into him when the wife screamed drive baby drive... She knew he was there....She looked right at him... Very poor decisions were made that day on the part of the two women...resulting tragedy...it was not murder... Murder ...as you know ....is premeditated....
 
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They were there interfering with an operation that was happening... She moved the car right into him when the wife screamed drive baby drive... She knew he was there....She looked right at him... Very poor decisions were made that day on the part of the two women...resulting tragedy...it was not murder...
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No interference. ZERO evidence that he was struck. Two fatal shots in the side window AFTER the car had passed him.

The wife encouraging her to drive away is not criminal nor does it imply interference. Just the opposite. Telling her to drive away, and that will be the wife’s testimony, means she wanted her to avoid any further encounter.

She looked right at him and said “I’m not mad at you.” He looked right at her as she steered to the right and shot her from the FRONT LEFT of her car. With his feet firmly on the ground.

Murder.

You really suck at this with your suppositional and desperate stretch of the evidence.
 
domer76 said:
No interference. ZERO evidence that he was struck. Two fatal shots in the side window AFTER the car had passed him.

The wife encouraging her to drive away is not criminal nor does it imply interference. Just the opposite. Telling her to drive away, and that will be the wife’s testimony, means she wanted her to avoid any further encounter.

She looked right at him and said “I’m not mad at you.” He looked right at her as she steered to the right and shot her from the FRONT LEFT of her car. With his feet firmly on the ground.

Murder.

You really suck at this with your suppositional and desperate stretch of the evidence.
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Absolute not murder... the two were interfering in an investigation... If she wasn't mad at him, then there was no problem.She should have just Turn off the car and exit... If she had been arrested , the worst that could happen was she would have gone to jail and been out in an hour.... She was looking right at him as she drove off.As directed by the wife... Very very poor decisions resulting in tragedy... Absolutely no premeditation on the officer's part... Tell me what did they hope to accomplish by interfering like that to begin with? Not a thing could be accomplished by what they were doing... Drop your children off at school and go home.... If you want to play games with federal officers Then be aware of what can happen if you choose to drive into one of them.... Or even in the direction of one of them... The minute she put that car into gear and stepped on the gas.It became a weapon and he had the right to defend himself ...
 
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