Who is Trump Talking About?

They needed Hamas/Al Qassam's local support in Gaza, or the deal will never work.
There's no Hamas in the equation. Iran funds, coordinates and authorizes Al Qassam in partnership with Qatar. Qatar is the only place the negotiations could occur.

Remember the hostages are somewhere in Gaza.
Remember, nobody knows this to be true. In fact, the IDF would have already rescued the hostages if they were actually in Gaza.

It seems pretty likely that Al Qassam escaped with at least some of the hostages.

Part of the problem with the negotiations is that the people who actually control the hostages are hard to communicate with.
Nope. They're all there in Qatar. As such, the deal was reached.
 
Trump will take all the credit for any peace in the middle east all because They think Trump is so crazy he just might do anything and just go in there and just start killing anybody and everybody YES Trump IS that nuts.
Apparently it's solving big problems. It's not crazy to be a menacing figure to the enemies of the country you lead.

Did you see Trump when he was talking to Joe Rogan? He said he liked John Bolton for one reason only so he could bring him with to negotiate with hostile countries and when they saw Bolton lurking back in the room they thought "Oh shit there's that crazy war dude" A useful war monger.
 
There's no Hamas in the equation.
Worth noting that the current leader of Hamas in Gaza is Mohammed Sinwar. He is also the military commander of the Al-Qassam Brigades. Without his consent, there is no possibility of peace.

In theory, Iran could cutoff funding if Sinwar does not fall into line... But funding has already been cutoff. Assad's government in Syria through which funding was distributed has collapsed. Maybe funding will be restored at some point in the future, but there would probably need to be a peace process for that to happen.

Qatar is the only place the negotiations could occur.
Well, it could happen in Turkey too. Turkey does not want the attention, but the USA can meet some part of Hamas in either location. The USA could not find Hamas in Gaza.

The problem for a couple of months was that Hamas outside of Gaza lost contact with Hamas in Gaza. Without the approval of Hamas in Gaza, there is no peace process possible.

In fact, the IDF would have already rescued the hostages if they were actually in Gaza.
The hostages could not have been gotten out of Gaza, so therefore they are in Gaza... But no one knows where in Gaza. When they get released, they will be released from Gaza.

It seems pretty likely that Al Qassam escaped with at least some of the hostages.
I am pretty sure the vast majority of Al-Qassam Brigades in Gaza is dead right now. The rest seem eager to stay and fight.

They're all there in Qatar. As such, the deal was reached.
That is just not reality.
 
I think getting elected President three consecutive times after becoming a self-made billionaire qualifies as being a genius.
trump has not been elected three consecutive times. And he is not a self-made billionaire... Or basically not. he inherited a huge amount of money. If he took that money and put it in an indexed fund, he would be a lot richer than he is today. Basically, he is below average at business.
 
Worth noting that
It's wirth noting that your statement is false. Al Qassam is not Hamas.

In theory, Iran could cutoff funding if Sinwar does not fall into line
It's not theory. Iran can cut off funding whenever Iran so desires.

... But funding has already been cutoff.
False.

Assad's government in Syria through which funding was distributed has collapsed.
That's not how funding is distributed.

The problem for a couple of months was that Hamas outside of Gaza lost contact with Hamas in Gaza.
There is no Hamas outside of Gaza, and there is effectively no Hamas within Gaza either, having been slaughtered by the IDF.

Al Qassam is not Hamas.

The hostages could not have been gotten out of Gaza,
Many of the hostages were probably taken from Gaza. Your statement is stupid.


But no one knows where in Gaza.
The IDF has scoured every inch of Gaza, to include the tunnels. Guess what. The hostages aren't in Gaza.

When they get released, they will be released from Gaza.
We'll see.

I am pretty sure the vast majority of Al-Qassam Brigades in Gaza is dead right now.
Al Qassam launched their attack and bugged out, with a bunch of hostages.
 
trump has not been elected three consecutive times.
Sure he was: 2016, 2020 and 2024.

And he is not a self-made billionaire...
Sure he is. You are rather illinformed.

he inherited a huge amount of money.
Yes, Trump inherited a few $million and turned it into several $billions.

If he took that money and put it in an indexed fund, he would be a lot richer than he is today.
So you are arguing that you are much better at wealth-building than Donald Trump, yes?

Basically, he is below average at business.
How many businessmen are self-made billionaires? How many?

How many index fund investors have become billionaires? How many?
 
This is a question for Team Israel ... and for everybody else who cares.

Trump just issued a threat that if the hostages are not released by the day he is inaugurated, those responsible will be hit harder than anybody has been hit in the long and storied History of the United States of America. RELEASE THE HOSTAGES NOW!"

Who is Trump talking about? Why didn't he specify "Hamas"? Why didn't he say "I'll destroy Gaza"? I know that all of you on Team Israel have insisted that Hamas, and only Hamas, was responsible for the Oct 7th (2023) attack on Israel and taking of hostages, so you are certain that Trump isn't talking about Iran and Al Qassam, right?

You must be certain that Trump intends to unleash "ALL HELL TO PAY" on the remaining civilian noncombatants in Gaza, right?
Have I missed the memo from 'Team Israel'? Because I sure haven't heard anyone from Trump's inner circle or anyone you'd slap with the 'Team Israel' label saying what you're suggesting. First off, I need a crash course on what 'team Israel' even means. I mean, I support Israel's right to exist, to defend itself, and to respond to terrorist attacks or anyone who's dead set on wiping them off the map, especially when they're indoctrinating kids with Jew-hatred from the cradle. If my neighbor was out there saying he wants my whole family dead and training his kids to do the job, you bet I'd take him out before he got to us. So, by that logic, I'm on 'Team Israel', right? But back to my questions, which still stands, and I'm eagerly waiting for some answers here.
 
Trump bought into the Swamps "Peace through Strength" so he is ramping up the threats when we need to go in the opposite direction.

This will get us all killed, the American Empire must admit defeat...every day we face the choice all around the world admit defeat or escalate....the neocons who have no reverse gear and dont give a flying fuck what We The People think/want/need always escalate.

Buckle Up.
WTF, that's crazy, I'm shocked. Can you give me one historical example where admitting defeat and backing down led to anything good? Peace through strength isn't just some catchy phrase; it's the proven best way to avoid war, demonstrated time and again. I'm starting to think you might be one of those who believe there aren't extremely motivated, evil leaders out there plotting our destruction every single day. China, Iran, North Korea, Russia, and at least a dozen other tin-pot countries run by despotic leaders all want us dead. The moment we show any sign of weakness, they strike. The nightmares we've seen in the last four years are just the latest proof of what American weakness breeds. And it's not for the reasons they spread through propaganda on countless sites, posing as Americans, pushing lies to advance their agendas. These 'good' guys are supposedly just mad at us because we're so unfair and evil, and if we'd just leave them alone, they'd leave us alone. That's got to be the most dangerously naive thinking out there.
 
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WTF, that's crazy, I'm shocked. Can you give me one historical example where admitting defeat and backing down led to anything good? Peace through strength isn't just some catchy phrase; it's the proven best way to avoid war, demonstrated time and again. I'm starting to think you might be one of those who believe there aren't extremely motivated, evil leaders out there plotting our destruction every single day. China, Iran, North Korea, Russia, and at least a dozen other tin-pot countries run by despotic leaders all want us dead. The moment we show any sign of weakness, they strike. The nightmares we've seen in the last four years are just the latest proof of what American weakness breeds. And it's not for the reasons they spread through propaganda on countless sites, posing as Americans, pushing lies to advance their agendas. These 'good' guys are supposedly just mad at us because we're so unfair and evil, and if we'd just leave them alone, they'd leave us alone. That's got to be the most dangerously naive thinking out there.
Just remember...this is who they thought would be the better choice to deal with the evil leaders plotting our destruction...
 
WTF, that's crazy, I'm shocked. Can you give me one historical example where admitting defeat and backing down led to anything good? Peace through strength isn't just some catchy phrase; it's the proven best way to avoid war, demonstrated time and again. I'm starting to think you might be one of those who believe there aren't extremely motivated, evil leaders out there plotting our destruction every single day. China, Iran, North Korea, Russia, and at least a dozen other tin-pot countries run by despotic leaders all want us dead. The moment we show any sign of weakness, they strike. The nightmares we've seen in the last four years are just the latest proof of what American weakness breeds. And it's not for the reasons they spread through propaganda on countless sites, posing as Americans, pushing lies to advance their agendas. These 'good' guys are supposedly just mad at us because we're so unfair and evil, and if we'd just leave them alone, they'd leave us alone. That's got to be the most dangerously naive thinking out there.
The Russians are the good guys....America is the worlds premier terrorist.....and we are going to get our asses kicked.....the world is done with our abuse.

You can either deal with this, or not.....and I recommend that you see that the people who run America have turned that abuse on Americans...and the citizens are waking up.
 
The final straw for me was the Debacle In Iraq.....an Empire project to build Greater Israel that does not benefit the America people launched and sold with lies.....with which my government greatly harmed my family.

I was betrayed.
 
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