WTF, that's crazy, I'm shocked. Can you give me one historical example where admitting defeat and backing down led to anything good? Peace through strength isn't just some catchy phrase; it's the proven best way to avoid war, demonstrated time and again. I'm starting to think you might be one of those who believe there aren't extremely motivated, evil leaders out there plotting our destruction every single day. China, Iran, North Korea, Russia, and at least a dozen other tin-pot countries run by despotic leaders all want us dead. The moment we show any sign of weakness, they strike. The nightmares we've seen in the last four years are just the latest proof of what American weakness breeds. And it's not for the reasons they spread through propaganda on countless sites, posing as Americans, pushing lies to advance their agendas. These 'good' guys are supposedly just mad at us because we're so unfair and evil, and if we'd just leave them alone, they'd leave us alone. That's got to be the most dangerously naive thinking out there.