Who makes the best beer on earth?

[Booyah!]

And I include lagers, porters, ales, stouts, and bitters.

 

[BRUTALITOPS]

us micro brews own the world

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

I do.

 

[/MSG/]

America, with England in a close 2nd.

 

[Damocles]

Ireland.

 

[Minister of Truth]

America, with England in a close 2nd.

I do like good brown ale, which is what is popular in England. I am currently going through a case of Moose Drool.

 

[/MSG/]

I do like good brown ale, which is what is popular in England. I am currently going through a case of Moose Drool.

Browns are nice, but ESBs are my personal favorite.

 

[cancel2 2022]

If you are talking about lager then without doubt it is a three way tie between the Belgians, Czechs and Germans. I admire the Germans especially for sticking to the Reinheitsgebot beer purity laws even though they have been officially rescinded. American beers like Budweiser, Michelob, Miller etc. are just insipid by comparison. For stout, then it has to be Ireland for Guinness, Murphys and Beamish. For bitters and cask conditioned ales, then it has to be England. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&search=reinheitsgebot&ns0=1&redirs=0

 

[/MSG/]

If you are talking about lager then without doubt it is a three way tie between the Belgians, Czechs and Germans. I admire the Germans especially for sticking to the Reinheitsgebot beer purity laws even though they have been officially rescinded. American beers like Budweiser, Michelob, Miller etc. are just insipid by comparison. For stout, then it has to be Ireland for Guinness, Murphys and Beamish. For bitters and cask conditioned ales, then it has to be England.

Budweiser, Miller, Ect. are not indicative of actual American lagers. A much better example would be Anchor Steam, or Bells Lager of The Lakes. As for your choice in stouts, well that really only applies to Irish Drys. They're not properly comparable to say... A RIS such as Old Rasputin. Stout is too broad a term. And English Bitters, well it's hard not to agree, but us Americans can do quite well in that department too.

 

[cancel2 2022]

Budweiser, Miller, Ect. are not indicative of actual American lagers. A much better example would be Anchor Steam, or Bells Lager of The Lakes. As for your choice in stouts, well that really only applies to Irish Drys. They're not properly comparable to say... A RIS such as Old Rasputin. Stout is too broad a term. And English Bitters, well it's hard not to agree, but us Americans can do quite well in that department too.

We don't really get any of the US microbreweries over here, shame really.

 

[Booyah!]

It's worth noting that many beers, ales, lagers, stouts etc. must be sampled in the country of origin as export versions often vary from the home market originals.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

If you are talking about lager then without doubt it is a three way tie between the Belgians, Czechs and Germans. I admire the Germans especially for sticking to the Reinheitsgebot beer purity laws even though they have been officially rescinded. American beers like Budweiser, Michelob, Miller etc. are just insipid by comparison. For stout, then it has to be Ireland for Guinness, Murphys and Beamish. For bitters and cask conditioned ales, then it has to be England. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&search=reinheitsgebot&ns0=1&redirs=0

Have ya tried a Sam Adams lager Tom?

 

[Booyah!]

It's available in the UK at http://www.beersofeurope.co.uk/acatalog/Beers_of_Europe__American_Beer_88.html

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

Reinheitsgebot just prevented German brewers from making wheat beers and such. They could only use barley and hops, completely obliterating any style of beer that differed from this (a lot of local varieties of beer varieties that had existed for centuries were obliterated when this law spread to the national level). It was a pretty dumb law, and a lot of beers that use other ingredients (such as wheat beers) still market themselves as in compliance because people are stupid and will believe anything.

 

[Minister of Truth]

I understand the vote for Ireland, and especially for Belgium, but what's with the Netherlands vote? Anyway, I do like English beer.

Billy, I assume you've had the Redhook ESB?

 

[Booyah!]

I understand the vote for Ireland, and especially for Belgium, but what's with the Netherlands vote? Anyway, I do like English beer.

Billy, I assume you've had the Redhook ESB?

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[Mott the Hoople]

It's available in the UK at http://www.beersofeurope.co.uk/acatalog/Beers_of_Europe__American_Beer_88.html

I think the explosion of microbrews has opened the eyes of the major brewers that the American people have discovered what good beer is and expect a higher level of quality and are willing to pay for it. I can't remember the last time I've bought Miller or Budweiser or any of their products in the last 5 years. My every day drinking beer now is Sam Adams lager and I enjoy some of the local microbrews from here in Ohio (Great Lakes dortumunder is excellent and Columbus Breweries IPA is better, I think, then Dogfishheads 60 minute IPA.). To bad neither is on this list but understandable for Columbus as their brews are both unfiltered nor pastuerized so it doesn't travel well.

 

[Minister of Truth]

I don't really like pale ales, although I have become accustomed to a few. I do love white ales, though. I will refrain from judging them for Heineken, since its like their version of Busch.

 

[cancel2 2022]

Reinheitsgebot just prevented German brewers from making wheat beers and such. They could only use barley and hops, completely obliterating any style of beer that differed from this (a lot of local varieties of beer varieties that had existed for centuries were obliterated when this law spread to the national level). It was a pretty dumb law, and a lot of beers that use other ingredients (such as wheat beers) still market themselves as in compliance because people are stupid and will believe anything.

What you are saying has an element of truth but you need to read this to get the true historical picture.

http://www.germanbeerinstitute.com/history.html

 

[/MSG/]

I understand the vote for Ireland, and especially for Belgium, but what's with the Netherlands vote? Anyway, I do like English beer.

Billy, I assume you've had the Redhook ESB?

Yeah, but it's not my fav. That goes to Fullers ESB, on of my favorite beers period.