Why Americans Are Leaving Downtowns in Droves

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Why Americans Are Leaving Downtowns in Droves

https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2022/04/metro-areas-shrinking-population-loss/629665/

Pop quiz: What do the metros of New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, Miami, Boston, Seattle, San Francisco, San Diego, Minneapolis–St. Paul, Philadelphia, and Washington, D.C., have in common?

They are all among the 20 largest metropolitan areas in the country. All of their populations were growing in 2011. And then, in 2021, they all shrank by a combined 900,000 people, according to an analysis of census data by the Brookings scholar William Frey. That’s an urban exodus nearly the size of two Wyomings.

The great metro shrinkage is part of a larger demographic story. Last year, the U.S. growth rate fell to a record low. The major drivers of population—migration and births—declined, while deaths soared in the pandemic. But America’s largest cities are getting the worst of this national trend. In the past three years, the net number of moves out of Manhattan has increased tenfold. In every urban county within the metros of New York City, Los Angeles, and San Francisco, immigration declined by at least 50 percent from 2018 to 2021. In downtown Detroit and Long Island, deaths actually exceeded births last year.
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And of course all of those cities are run by democrats.....rats leaving a sinking ship.
 
Sailor said:
Why Americans Are Leaving Downtowns in Droves

https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2022/04/metro-areas-shrinking-population-loss/629665/

Pop quiz: What do the metros of New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, Miami, Boston, Seattle, San Francisco, San Diego, Minneapolis–St. Paul, Philadelphia, and Washington, D.C., have in common?

They are all among the 20 largest metropolitan areas in the country. All of their populations were growing in 2011. And then, in 2021, they all shrank by a combined 900,000 people, according to an analysis of census data by the Brookings scholar William Frey. That’s an urban exodus nearly the size of two Wyomings.

The great metro shrinkage is part of a larger demographic story. Last year, the U.S. growth rate fell to a record low. The major drivers of population—migration and births—declined, while deaths soared in the pandemic. But America’s largest cities are getting the worst of this national trend. In the past three years, the net number of moves out of Manhattan has increased tenfold. In every urban county within the metros of New York City, Los Angeles, and San Francisco, immigration declined by at least 50 percent from 2018 to 2021. In downtown Detroit and Long Island, deaths actually exceeded births last year.
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And of course all of those cities are run by democrats.....rats leaving a sinking ship.
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A related article:
A Cop's-Eye View of Seattle's Undoing

This February, Bruce Harrell, newly installed as mayor of Seattle, made it official: His city is in decline. “The truth is the status quo is unacceptable,” Harrell said in his first state of the city address.
Much of Seattle’s core looks like a pockmarked ghost town. Storefronts on both sides of Third Avenue, a major thoroughfare, are boarded up. Blocks from the Four Seasons hotel and the Fairmont Hotel, tents crowd the sidewalks, and drug users sit under awnings holding pieces of foil over lighter flames. Traffic enforcement is minimal to nonexistent. In mid-March, Amazon announced that it was abandoning a 312,000-square-foot office space in downtown, citing concerns over crime.
https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/a-cops-eye-view-of-seattles-undoing?s=r
 
and they are all moving here to fuck up Florida with their stupid blue state voting patterns
I moved here in 1999 = 16 million people.. now it's 23 million and counting
 
That was a good read. It started with COVID, cities aren't as much fun when you are locked down in tiny apartments and condos, and now with Work From Home people are a lot more willing to live outside the City if you only have to commute to work a couple of times a week. You can throw in pissed off families who left after schools stayed closed far longer than the CDC said was necessary. And there are issues with crime.

The article was right, they are becoming far more playgrounds for the rich.
 
cawacko said:
That was a good read. It started with COVID, cities aren't as much fun when you are locked down in tiny apartments and condos, and now with Work From Home people are a lot more willing to live outside the City if you only have to commute to work a couple of times a week. You can throw in pissed off families who left after schools stayed closed far longer than the CDC said was necessary. And there are issues with crime.

The article was right, they are becoming far more playgrounds for the rich.
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While I agree I am also of the mind they fucked up the cities, they need to stay there. No need for them to ruin other places.
 
Sailor said:
Why Americans Are Leaving Downtowns in Droves

https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2022/04/metro-areas-shrinking-population-loss/629665/

Pop quiz: What do the metros of New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, Miami, Boston, Seattle, San Francisco, San Diego, Minneapolis–St. Paul, Philadelphia, and Washington, D.C., have in common?

They are all among the 20 largest metropolitan areas in the country. All of their populations were growing in 2011. And then, in 2021, they all shrank by a combined 900,000 people, according to an analysis of census data by the Brookings scholar William Frey. That’s an urban exodus nearly the size of two Wyomings.

The great metro shrinkage is part of a larger demographic story. Last year, the U.S. growth rate fell to a record low. The major drivers of population—migration and births—declined, while deaths soared in the pandemic. But America’s largest cities are getting the worst of this national trend. In the past three years, the net number of moves out of Manhattan has increased tenfold. In every urban county within the metros of New York City, Los Angeles, and San Francisco, immigration declined by at least 50 percent from 2018 to 2021. In downtown Detroit and Long Island, deaths actually exceeded births last year.
more at link.....

And of course all of those cities are run by democrats.....rats leaving a sinking ship.
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Yep.
 
There’s a fable about a city mouse and a country mouse, they will leave the cities in droves, but many will return. I would not return to a small town unless forced. I do like the suburbs, where I’m close enough to drive into the city.
 
The exodus continues from America’s biggest cities

The recent Census report about the mass migration away from America’s most celebrated centers — New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago — may have come as shock to many urban boosters.

https://unherd.com/thepost/the-exodus-continues-from-americas-biggest-cities/
 
Sailor said:
Why Americans Are Leaving Downtowns in Droves
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As a counter point, New York City rents have shot up by 20% as people try to get apartments in NYC. Part of that is that many of the people who have "left" are still keeping their apartments in NYC, but there has got to be a lot of people trying to move to NYC to make that much of a jump possible.

The fact remains, the metro areas are the productive parts of the USA. Telecommuting is not to the point that will change completely any time soon.
 
Sailor said:
Why Americans Are Leaving Downtowns in Droves

https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2022/04/metro-areas-shrinking-population-loss/629665/

Pop quiz: What do the metros of New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, Miami, Boston, Seattle, San Francisco, San Diego, Minneapolis–St. Paul, Philadelphia, and Washington, D.C., have in common?

They are all among the 20 largest metropolitan areas in the country. All of their populations were growing in 2011. And then, in 2021, they all shrank by a combined 900,000 people, according to an analysis of census data by the Brookings scholar William Frey. That’s an urban exodus nearly the size of two Wyomings.

The great metro shrinkage is part of a larger demographic story. Last year, the U.S. growth rate fell to a record low. The major drivers of population—migration and births—declined, while deaths soared in the pandemic. But America’s largest cities are getting the worst of this national trend. In the past three years, the net number of moves out of Manhattan has increased tenfold. In every urban county within the metros of New York City, Los Angeles, and San Francisco, immigration declined by at least 50 percent from 2018 to 2021. In downtown Detroit and Long Island, deaths actually exceeded births last year.
more at link.....

And of course all of those cities are run by democrats.....rats leaving a sinking ship.
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Cities; like toilet paper and lawyers, a necessity at times but best quickly abandoned when no longer needed.
 
anonymoose said:
A related article:
A Cop's-Eye View of Seattle's Undoing

This February, Bruce Harrell, newly installed as mayor of Seattle, made it official: His city is in decline. “The truth is the status quo is unacceptable,” Harrell said in his first state of the city address.
Much of Seattle’s core looks like a pockmarked ghost town. Storefronts on both sides of Third Avenue, a major thoroughfare, are boarded up. Blocks from the Four Seasons hotel and the Fairmont Hotel, tents crowd the sidewalks, and drug users sit under awnings holding pieces of foil over lighter flames. Traffic enforcement is minimal to nonexistent. In mid-March, Amazon announced that it was abandoning a 312,000-square-foot office space in downtown, citing concerns over crime.
https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/a-cops-eye-view-of-seattles-undoing?s=r
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Another Detroit in the making?
 
Phantasmal said:
There’s a fable about a city mouse and a country mouse, they will leave the cities in droves, but many will return. I would not return to a small town unless forced. I do like the suburbs, where I’m close enough to drive into the city.
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Post Covid, the cities are filling up again. Ironically, with new people who can afford the lower rents.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Cities; like toilet paper and lawyers, a necessity at times but best quickly abandoned when no longer needed.
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Some people are addicted to the city life. The culture is unmatched, but at what cost?

I can't breathe the air in NYC. I pop in for a show now and then, and exit as quickly as possible.

I have elderly clients who have a beautiful second home in the mts. here, and an apartment in Greenwich Village. During the pandemic, they stayed out of the city for two years. In the beginning they were bored to tears. They loved that they could go out to dinner at 10 pm in NYC and find numerous places to eat.
 
Althea said:
Some people are addicted to the city life. The culture is unmatched, but at what cost?

I can't breathe the air in NYC. I pop in for a show now and then, and exit as quickly as possible.

I have elderly clients who have a beautiful second home in the mts. here, and an apartment in Greenwich Village. During the pandemic, they stayed out of the city for two years. In the beginning they were bored to tears. They loved that they could go out to dinner at 10 pm in NYC and find numerous places to eat.
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I was never a fan of cities although I have enjoyed visiting a few.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
I was never a fan of cities although I have enjoyed visiting a few.
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Texas cities are a lot different. I've done quite a bit of work in NYC. Sitting at a traffic light is like watching a freak show.

I was born in a NYC borough, and left at 8. I'm always amazed at how pale the city people are in NY.
 
Althea said:
Texas cities are a lot different. I've done quite a bit of work in NYC. Sitting at a traffic light is like watching a freak show.

I was born in a NYC borough, and left at 8. I'm always amazed at how pale the city people are in NY.
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I've been to several US and foreign cities but was always happy to leave. :)
 
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