Why Americans Are Paying More At the Pump

E=General Buck Turgidson;957975]So you don't want Obama to be blamed? OK. Well, what the fuck are you bitching about?
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i'm not bitching. read the OP moron, it has a question in it. once again dung throws out strawmen. do you actually believe the media blames obama as much as bush?




Don't challenge me, junior:



http://articles.marketwatch.com/2012-02-25/markets/31098416_1_crude-oil-buyers-oil-prices
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like i said, i read it last week and it was in fact accurate. you would be correct if you stated they have "now" increased production instead of saying what i read was not accurate.
 
Yurt said:
what does that have to do with blame you fucking retard? so because bush worked in the oil industry, that is why he was blamed? LOL. you are such a funny little hack.
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Do you have articles where the mainstream media "blamed" Bush, or is it just speculation? No doubt, there was much more of the latter with Bush, because of his strong ties to the oil industry, which you keep ignoring. And the fact that his admin doled out huge subsidies to oil, and that the oil industry saw record profits coincidentally under his admin, etc.

If you do have articles that specifically BLAME Bush, I'd be very surprised if they didn't also cite causality for that.

But, keep whining away, Yirked. And hey - why didn't Bush get "Chicago-style politics," but Obama does? Huh? Huh?
 
Yurt said:
i'm not bitching. read the OP moron, it has a question in it. once again dung throws out strawmen. do you actually believe the media blames obama as much as bush?
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Oh, right. You're not bitching, you're just raising the same issue for the eleventy billionth time. Riiiiiight.


Yurt said:
like i said, i read it last week and it was in fact accurate. you would be correct if you stated they have "now" increased production instead of saying what i read was not accurate.
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The article that you posted says that Saudi Arabia reduced output in December after producing the most oil in a single month in 30 years in November. Your statement that Saudi Arabia "reduced production again" was not at all accurate.
 
Onceler said:
Do you have articles where the mainstream media "blamed" Bush, or is it just speculation? No doubt, there was much more of the latter with Bush, because of his strong ties to the oil industry, which you keep ignoring. And the fact that his admin doled out huge subsidies to oil, and that the oil industry saw record profits coincidentally under his admin, etc.

If you do have articles that specifically BLAME Bush, I'd be very surprised if they didn't also cite causality for that.

But, keep whining away, Yirked. And hey - why didn't Bush get "Chicago-style politics," but Obama does? Huh? Huh?
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i already posted a link. do pay attention.

i'm not ignoring his ties....but how in the world can you blame that on high gas prices? see, you are doing exactly what you claim didn't happen. you're blaming bush, but not obama. tff. dunceler hackery strikes again.
 
General Buck Turgidson said:
Oh, right. You're not bitching, you're just raising the same issue for the eleventy billionth time. Riiiiiight.





The article that you posted says that Saudi Arabia reduced output in December after producing the most oil in a single month in 30 years in November. Your statement that Saudi Arabia "reduced production again" was not at all accurate.
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so they didn't reduce output? and they've never reduced output before? wow.
 
Yurt said:
i already posted a link. do pay attention.

i'm not ignoring his ties....but how in the world can you blame that on high gas prices? see, you are doing exactly what you claim didn't happen. you're blaming bush, but not obama. tff. dunceler hackery strikes again.
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Where am I blaming Bush?

Do pay attention. See, that's why I think your perception of it is as it is. You read things with a certain filter. But they're not what people are really saying.
 
Onceler said:
Where am I blaming Bush?

Do pay attention. See, that's why I think your perception of it is as it is. You read things with a certain filter. But they're not what people are really saying.
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because of his strong ties to the oil industry, which you keep ignoring.

:rolleyes:
 
Yurt said:
because of his strong ties to the oil industry, which you keep ignoring.

:rolleyes:
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I said that's why there was more speculation w/ Bush.

Do you really not read it that way? This is something that should concern you; it's why your perception is the way it is, and why you start so many threads like this one. I was not saying that I personally blamed him, Yirked.
 
Onceler said:
Do you have articles where the mainstream media "blamed" Bush, or is it just speculation? No doubt, there was much more of the latter with Bush, because of his strong ties to the oil industry, which you keep ignoring. And the fact that his admin doled out huge subsidies to oil, and that the oil industry saw record profits coincidentally under his admin, etc.

If you do have articles that specifically BLAME Bush, I'd be very surprised if they didn't also cite causality for that.

But, keep whining away, Yirked. And hey - why didn't Bush get "Chicago-style politics," but Obama does? Huh? Huh?
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I'm going to give you a quick reading primer, Yirked. See the word "latter" in the bolded portion? This refers to the word "speculation" from the previous sentence, and not to my own personal feelings.

Are you able to comprehend that, or is it still a sticking point?
 
Yurt:

You may also want to do a google search for "Bush jawbone OPEC" and see what you come up with. Maybe Bush was held to a different standard -- the one he created.
 
you constantly repeat that i'm ignoring it....thus you are in fact blaming bush. you've said that repeatedly in numerous threads.

but if you want to deny it, have at it.
 
Yurt said:
you constantly repeat that i'm ignoring it....thus you are in fact blaming bush. you've said that repeatedly in numerous threads.

but if you want to deny it, have at it.
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You ARE ignoring it - as a reason why people speculated much more about the correlation between Bush & higher oil prices, which is the reason you keep starting these threads.

It has nothing to do w/ my personal feelings. In point of fact, I agree w/ you that Presidents have little control.

I'm glad you seem to have at least comprehended that you read my post incorrectly, but I believe it's part of the deeper issue: you read a lot of things incorrectly. When people are speculating, I think you see it as heaping "blame" or something. You have to work on your reading, as the last few exchanges on this thread have proven definitively.
 
Yurt said:
i'm not bitching. read the OP moron, it has a question in it. once again dung throws out strawmen. do you actually believe the media blames obama as much as bush?






like i said, i read it last week and it was in fact accurate. you would be correct if you stated they have "now" increased production instead of saying what i read was not accurate.
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Is it still last week?

Has newer, more up-to-date info come up to refute what was "accurate" last week?

Then whoopsie...your information is in fact, NOT ACCURATE.

Your facts are what they call, OUTDATED.
 
Onceler said:
I've never known of someone so committed to rectifying the "unfair treatment of Bush."

Poor GW - usually, the office of President is hardly criticized at all. It's basically a fun, figurehead kind of position that the media either praises or leaves alone. Why, oh why, did Bush get singled out like that?
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I don't think that is the point. My guess is he'd rather the media started doing their job rather than gazing with moon eyes every time this guy spoke.

Basically, the goal would be to shame them into treating this guy the same, rather than to try to get them to give both a pass.

Nobody should get a "pass"...
 
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