Why Christianity is picke on.

I am a Christian, and have done NONE of the things you have mentioned above....

so why always paint the big brush and include me in on all of this...and others like me, like my parents and sister and neighbors who are Christains and ex-coworkers who were christians.....who actually speak out against the supposed Christians that hate....?

We should be more specific, when criticizing christians. Of course, I think most of the criticism is aimed at the theocratic, end-times christians that make up a portion of Bush's base.

My parents are Quakers, and the quakers certainly have nothing to do with wars of choice, defending torture, and imposing biblical law on anyone else.
 
Care has a point. there are True Christians and there are people who just say they are Christians, but do whatever they want. And then there are the hater Christians a Rob would call them.
I apologize to any True Christian if I have offended you. I aim my jabs at the hater and ones who just say they are Christian, but don't walk the walk.
 
Not talking about what Christians do talking about how Christians are perceived.
Perceived by whom? And which Christians?

I have a rule of thumb that I've found very useful. What's more, I've gotten some very enthusiastic responses when I've presented it to others. The thing is that it really does model my emotional reactions quite well.

If someone tells me they're a "Christian" -- or have been "born again" -- within the first half hour of conversation, that's a very bad sign. I tend to have a very negative impression. If, on the other hand, I'm surprised after some days -- or weeks or years -- to discover that someone is also a church-going Christian, I generally take that as a positive thing.

Naturally, it doesn't work in every context. If you first meet the guy in a conversation about religion at a party, for example, all bets are off.
 
We should be more specific, when criticizing christians. Of course, I think most of the criticism is aimed at the theocratic, end-times christians that make up a portion of Bush's base.

My parents are Quakers, and the quakers certainly have nothing to do with wars of choice, defending torture, and imposing biblical law on anyone else.

True, but IHG was not criticizing Christians in his post.

Not that I see.
 
Perceived by whom? And which Christians?

I have a rule of thumb that I've found very useful. What's more, I've gotten some very enthusiastic responses when I've presented it to others. The thing is that it really does model my emotional reactions quite well.

If someone tells me they're a "Christian" -- or have been "born again" -- within the first half hour of conversation, that's a very bad sign. I tend to have a very negative impression. If, on the other hand, I'm surprised after some days -- or weeks or years -- to discover that someone is also a church-going Christian, I generally take that as a positive thing.

Naturally, it doesn't work in every context. If you first meet the guy in a conversation about religion at a party, for example, all bets are off.

I think we all need to take a moment and read his original post again. He is talking about Christianity's dominant place in America vs, the minority status of Muslims, and how he feels that Liberals tend to defend the underdog. Here is his post, I see nothing about what Christians do, or how they are perceived, beyond they're being perceived as the dominant religious force in America (which of course, they are, that is inarguable):

Many people often ask the question why are Christians picked on more than Muslims or other religions.

Part of the liberal mindset is to defend those who are perceived as weak and attack those who are strong.

One of the main reasons this is done is to deny the false dichotomy of Christianity = good. Islam = bad.

Christianity is followed by a huge majority of our population. It is a fixture of American society and is not threatened in any way by criticism. In general it is viewed in a positive light by most Americans. Some like myself seek to dissuade people from thinking the Christianity is a big rosy picture that is ideal. It isn't.

Islam on the other hand due to recent events is generally villified in our national conscious. We watch the news about terrorists and fanatics in the street shouting death to America and buring American flags.

We have created a good guys vs. bad guys scenario and things are never that simple. Liberal minded people tend to favor a grey view of things saying something is not pure good or evil.

I can assure you that if you transplanted many of the liberal posters here who attack Christianity and defend Islam over to the middle east they would be doing the reverse.

Pretty much it is the seeking to moderate views that is responsible for the anti-Christian pro-Islam impression many have.
 
Care has a point. there are True Christians and there are people who just say they are Christians, but do whatever they want. And then there are the hater Christians a Rob would call them.
I apologize to any True Christian if I have offended you. I aim my jabs at the hater and ones who just say they are Christian, but don't walk the walk.


I apolgize to nobody!

You people will get an apolgy from me when you tear it from my cold, dead hand!
 
Perceived by whom? And which Christians?

I have a rule of thumb that I've found very useful. What's more, I've gotten some very enthusiastic responses when I've presented it to others. The thing is that it really does model my emotional reactions quite well.

If someone tells me they're a "Christian" -- or have been "born again" -- within the first half hour of conversation, that's a very bad sign. I tend to have a very negative impression. If, on the other hand, I'm surprised after some days -- or weeks or years -- to discover that someone is also a church-going Christian, I generally take that as a positive thing.

Naturally, it doesn't work in every context. If you first meet the guy in a conversation about religion at a party, for example, all bets are off.

If someone tells me they're a "Christian" -- or have been "born again" -- within the first half hour of conversation, that's a very bad sign. I tend to have a very negative impression

You know what's funny about people like that? I've often found that they doen't evey really understand their own purported religion - particularly the evangelical types.

I've found a lot of these people don't consider Catholics to be "christians". They seem to think catholicism is a whole other religion. And, many of them are equally misinformed about Presbytarians, Quakers, and Protestants generally speaking.

Often, they don't even seem aware that their evangelical church is part of the Prostetant tradition. They don't seem aware that Protestants, are in fact "christians".
 
I apolgize to nobody!

You people will get an apolgy from me when you tear it from my cold, dead hand!

I am not sure if it applies to anyone on here or not :)
But I do support those who try their best to live a pacifist , peaceful and helping to others life like Christ taught.
I sometimes mess up and will willingly apologize. Well not to dixie, Grind, etc though even if I am wrong. Why apologize to someone who is always wrong ?
 
I am not sure if it applies to anyone on here or not :)
But I do support those who try their best to live a pacifist , peaceful and helping to others life like Christ taught.
I sometimes mess up and will willingly apologize. Well not to dixie, Grind, etc though even if I am wrong. Why apologize to someone who is always wrong ?


One thing about me is, I am so much for peace, that I will happily beat the living shit out of somebody, if they are not for peace.

I'm a lot like the Jesus lovers that way.

I was just kidding about the apology though. :)
 
I figured that. Yep no better fun than getting drunk and beating up those young guys in white shirts and black slacks on bicycles :)
 
One thing about me is, I am so much for peace, that I will happily beat the living shit out of somebody, if they are not for peace.

I'm a lot like the Jesus lovers that way.

I was just kidding about the apology though.


Violent Pacification!

Violent Pacification!

Force you to be nice to each other!

Kill you before you kill each other!


I'm just full of songs today.
 
I like the "Violent Pacification". I should get a t-shirt that says that. Maybe Damo will sell them in his story, along with the Rush Limbaugh pants I want. Wow, I would really be decked out then.
 
Rush lintballs pants ? do they have a zipper in the rear for those all guy viagra trips ?

Uh, no. lol

They have a picture of his face right on the butt, with the words "finally, a perfect match" written right underneath.


But yours is another idea.
 
Uh, no. lol

They have a picture of his face right on the butt, with the words "finally, a perfect match" written right underneath.


But yours is another idea.

Hmm, I might wear the version you are talking about, where do you get them ?
can you get them with Chenys face on one cheek and Bush's on the other ?
 
Hmm, I might wear the version you are talking about, where do you get them ?

I don't know. I made them up in my head, and when Damo asked if there's anything we'd like to buy if he opens a store, I told him about them. I would defintely buy them if someone would make them.
 
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