"Why do Liberals think Trump supporters are Stupid?"

Truth Detector said:
Obama Presidency begins: $10,626,877,048,913.08
Obama Presidency ends: $19,947,304,555,212.49

Result of Obama's Presidency: $9,320,427,506,299.41 additional debt.
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The incoming President does NOT take over the Budget and Debt until the beginning of the Fiscal year and that is Oct 1 of the year he takes over so on Oct 1 2009 the debt was 11,920,519,164,319.42 ( not the 10,626,877,048,913.08 and that makes Obama increasing it by 8,324,380,851,734.09)
and on Sept 30th 2017 it was 20,244,900,016,053.51
that is an increase of 8, 324,380,851,734.09
that info comes from the US Treasury website https://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/d...tYear=2009&endMonth=09&endDay=30&endYear=2017

Have a nice day
 
Tbird19482 said:
The incoming President does NOT take over the Budget and Debt until the beginning of the Fiscal year and that is Oct 1 of the year he takes over so on Oct 1 2009 the debt was 11,920,519,164,319.42 ( not the 10,626,877,048,913.08 and that makes Obama increasing it by 8,324,380,851,734.09)
and on Sept 30th 2017 it was 20,244,900,016,053.51
that is an increase of 8, 324,380,851,734.09
that info comes from the US Treasury website https://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/d...tYear=2009&endMonth=09&endDay=30&endYear=2017

Have a nice day
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WRONG, using your logic, he should be responsible until September 30th 2017 then, which puts it at $20,244,900,016,053.51. Obama's accumulation of debt = $19,052,848,101,734.09.

Well, that makes it so much better then doesn't it? :laugh:
 
Loving91390 said:
Let us know when Trump goes Obama on us and straps us with $10 trillion !

And .... Ya , that's a dollar sign !
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Well if he keep it up it might not be that long
as of Yesterday he has increased the debt by 1,725,069,556,964.66 Trillion and that does not include the 1.6 trillion they say the tax cut will add
so that would be over 3.3 Trillion dollars since Oct 1 2017
Have a nice day
 
Truth Detector said:
WRONG, using your logic, he should be responsible until September 30th 2017 then, which puts it at $20,244,900,016,053.51. Obama's accumulation of debt = $19,052,848,101,734.09.

Well, that makes it so much better then doesn't it? :laugh:
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here is the US treasury website
https://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/d...tDay=&startYear=&endMonth=&endDay=13&endYear=
Oct 1 2017 it was 9,062,552,400,356.63 and on 9/29/17 it was 20,244,900,016,053.51 I will give you a few days and say it was on Oct 2 2017 , 20,347,802,336,477.80

and again that is Obama's first Fiscal year till 2 days into trumps first fiscal year
and all info comes from the US treasury
Have a nice day
 
Truth Detector said:
WRONG, using your logic, he should be responsible until September 30th 2017 then, which puts it at $20,244,900,016,053.51. Obama's accumulation of debt = $19,052,848,101,734.09.

Well, that makes it so much better then doesn't it? :laugh:
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One more thing Obama's part of that 20 plus Trillion dollar debt would be 8.3 Trillion dollars seeing that when he took over the debt was 11.9 Trillion dollars
NOT Obama's accumulation of debt = $19,052,848,101,734.09.
have a nice day
 
Tbird19482 said:
Well if he keep it up it might not be that long
as of Yesterday he has increased the debt by 1,725,069,556,964.66 Trillion and that does not include the 1.6 trillion they say the tax cut will add
so that would be over 3.3 Trillion dollars since Oct 1 2017
Have a nice day
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Tax cuts have never resulted in lower revenues. We have deficits because of a SPENDING problem. AND, thanks to Obama, a debt service that amounts to $523,017,301,446.12 annually.

How does that translate monthly? $43,584,775,120. Yes folks, we spend $43.5 BILLION every month in interest. Thank you Obama!
 
Tbird19482 said:
One more thing Obama's part of that 20 plus Trillion dollar debt would be 8.3 Trillion dollars seeing that when he took over the debt was 11.9 Trillion dollars
NOT Obama's accumulation of debt = $19,052,848,101,734.09.
have a nice day
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You're trying to have it BOTH ways. Either we take the debt from when Presidents take over, or we take it from when the fiscal year ended after their Presidencies. Either way, Obama looks real bad.

He had anemic GDP for 8 years and he lost both the House and the Senate by massive margins. Libya was a massive failure as were Syria and Iraq.

I can't fathom how anyone with a brain can continue to defend that inept, inexperienced dunce.
 
Truth Detector said:
Tax cuts have never resulted in lower revenues. We have deficits because of a SPENDING problem. AND, thanks to Obama, a debt service that amounts to $523,017,301,446.12 annually.

How does that translate monthly? $43,584,775,120. Yes folks, we spend $43.5 BILLION every month in interest. Thank you Obama!
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first of all I said " that does not include the 1.6 trillion they say the tax cut will add" They being the GAO
Now I have to ask you why do you keep Blaming Obama for the whole debt?
Didn't Reagan/Bush I / Clioton/ and Bush II have something to do with it?
yes Obama did increase it but he is NOT responsible for the whole thing.
Lets see Reagan almost tripled the debt he took it from 998 Billion dollars increased it 186% to $2.857 Trillion
Bush I took it from there to $4.4 trillion
Clinton took it from there to $5.8 Trillion several hundred Billion less then Bush I did
Bush II took it from $5.8 to $11.657 by this article by the US treasury it was over 11.9 trillion
so those 4 Presidents are responsible for the debt going from 998 Billion dollars to 11.9 trillion
The debt is not all Obama's fault
and yes spending does drive up the debt and the Republicans had control of Congress for how many years over the last 10 so maybe they should start to do what they say they do cut spending.
have a nice afternoon
 
Truth Detector said:
You're trying to have it BOTH ways. Either we take the debt from when Presidents take over, or we take it from when the fiscal year ended after their Presidencies. Either way, Obama looks real bad.

He had anemic GDP for 8 years and he lost both the House and the Senate by massive margins. Libya was a massive failure as were Syria and Iraq.

I can't fathom how anyone with a brain can continue to defend that inept, inexperienced dunce.
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Mostof the years Obama wasin office he had a republican Congress and Guess who are the ones that are in charge of spending Congress
https://www.senate.gov/history/partydiv.htm

111th Congress (2009-2011)
Majority Party: Democrat (57 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (41 seats)
Other Parties: 1 Independent; 1 Independent Democrat (both caucus with the Democrats)

112th Congress (2011-2013)
Majority Party: Democrat (51 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (47 seats)
Other Parties: 1 Independent; 1 Independent Democrat (both caucus with the Democrat

113th Congress (2013-2015)
Majority Party: Democrat (53 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (45 seats)
Other Parties: 2 Independents (both caucus with the Democrats)

114th Congress (2015-2017)
Majority Party: Republican (54 seats)
Minority Party: Democrat (44 seats)
Other Parties: 2 Independents (both caucus with the Democrats)
looks like the Republicans took control of the senate

115th Congress (2017-2019)
Majority Party: Republican (51 seats)
Minority Party: Democrat (47 seats)
Other Parties: 2 Independents (both caucus with the Democrats)

Congress (Years)

# of House Seats

Democrats

Republicans

Other

Del./Res.

109th (2005–2007)

435

201

233

Independent (1)

4/1
110th (2007–2009)

435

233

202

0

4/1
111th (2009–2011)

435

257

178

0

5/1
112th (2011–2013)

435

193

242

0

5/1
113th (2013–2015)

435

201

234

0

5/1
114th (2015–2017) 435 188 247 0 5/1
115th (2017–2019) 435 194 241 0 5/1
116th (2019-2021) 4354 235 199 0 5/1

Lets in 2009 Dems had 257

and Repubs had 178

in 2011 to 13 it was 193 dems to 242 republicans

in 2013 to 2015 it was 201 dems to 234 republicans

2015 to 2017 it was 188 Dems to 247 republicans

2017 to 2019 it was 194 Dems to 241 republicans

and now it is 235 Dems to 199 republicans

Obama had to deal with a Republican Congress

and again The incoming President takes over the Budget and the debt when his first fiscal year starts on Oct 1
Have a nice afternoon
 
Truth Detector said:
You're trying to have it BOTH ways. Either we take the debt from when Presidents take over, or we take it from when the fiscal year ended after their Presidencies. Either way, Obama looks real bad.

He had anemic GDP for 8 years and he lost both the House and the Senate by massive margins. Libya was a massive failure as were Syria and Iraq.

I can't fathom how anyone with a brain can continue to defend that inept, inexperienced dunce.
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One more question for you have you have you ever heard of the SOFA?
maybe if G W Bush had not tied Obama's hands behind his back Iraq wouldn't have ended up the way it did
Have a nice day
 
So Rudy said there was collusion with Russia in the campaign. He said over and over the last 2 years that there was absolutely none. The rightys are arguing whether he really said that. Some are asking for video proof, asking for leftys to provide them with what has been on the tube and net hundreds of times. They are a comination of ignorant and dishonest that is easy to see.
 
Tbird19482 said:
first of all I said " that does not include the 1.6 trillion they say the tax cut will add" They being the GAO
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When have GAO projections ever been accurate? Can you find a time in history where tax cuts led to lower revenues?

Tbird19482 said:
Now I have to ask you why do you keep Blaming Obama for the whole debt?
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I am blaming Obama for the debt he ran up. Why are you desperately flailing trying to defend it?

Tbird19482 said:
Didn't Reagan/Bush I / Clioton/ and Bush II have something to do with it?
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You would have to add all three Presidents debt to equal Obama's. Why do you defend Obama?

Tbird19482 said:
yes Obama did increase it but he is NOT responsible for the whole thing.
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He DOUBLED it. Why do you think that isn't a BIG deal?

Tbird19482 said:
Lets see Reagan almost tripled the debt he took it from 998 Billion dollars increased it 186% to $2.857 Trillion
Bush I took it from there to $4.4 trillion
Clinton took it from there to $5.8 Trillion several hundred Billion less then Bush I did
Bush II took it from $5.8 to $11.657 by this article by the US treasury it was over 11.9 trillion
so those 4 Presidents are responsible for the debt going from 998 Billion dollars to 11.9 trillion
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So doubling the debt is okay?

Tbird19482 said:
The debt is not all Obama's fault
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Who claimed that Obama was responsible for ALL the debt?

Tbird19482 said:
and yes spending does drive up the debt and the Republicans had control of Congress for how many years over the last 10 so maybe they should start to do what they say they do cut spending.
have a nice afternoon
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Who had control of the Congress for the last four and a half decades before Republicans took over in 1995? During Clinton's Presidency, we had the most fiscal sanity. Balanced budgets, low debt accumulation.

Who took back control of the Congress in 2007? During that short stint, Debt climbed by another $4.5 trillion. I am amused by dishonest liberal fools who try to argue that Republicans are the problem when Democrats had 45 years to fuck everything up.

Republicans are the solution; Democrats are the problem.
 
Bourbon said:
'An anguished question from a Trump supporter: "Why do liberals think Trump supporters are stupid?"

The serious answer: Here’s what we really think about Trump supporters - the rich, the poor, the malignant and the innocently well-meaning, the ones who think and the ones who don't...

That when you saw a man who had owned a fraudulent University, intent on scamming poor people, you thought "Fine."

That when you saw a man who had made it his business practice to stiff his creditors, you said, "Okay."

That when you heard him proudly brag about his own history of sexual abuse, you said, "No problem."

That when he made up stories about seeing muslim-Americans in the thousands cheering the destruction of the World Trade Center, you said, "Not an issue."

That when you saw him brag that he could shoot a man on Fifth Avenue and you wouldn't care, you chirped, "He sure knows me."

That when you heard him illustrate his own character by telling that cute story about the elderly guest bleeding on the floor at his country club, the story about how he turned his back and how it was all an imposition on him, you said, "That's cool!"

That when you saw him mock the disabled, you thought it was the funniest thing you ever saw.

That when you heard him brag that he doesn't read books, you said, "Well, who has time?"

That when the Central Park Five were compensated as innocent men convicted of a crime they didn't commit, and he angrily said that they should still be in prison, you said, "That makes sense."

That when you heard him tell his supporters to beat up protesters and that he would hire attorneys, you thought, "Yes!"

That when you heard him tell one rally to confiscate a man's coat before throwing him out into the freezing cold, you said, "What a great guy!"

That you have watched the parade of neo-Nazis and white supremacists with whom he curries favor, while refusing to condemn outright Nazis, and you have said, "Thumbs up!"

That you hear him unable to talk to foreign dignitaries without insulting their countries and demanding that they praise his electoral win, you said, "That's the way I want my President to be."

That you have watched him remove expertise from all layers of government in favor of people who make money off of eliminating protections in the industries they're supposed to be regulating and you have said, "What a genius!"

That you have heard him continue to profit from his businesses, in part by leveraging his position as President, to the point of overcharging the Secret Service for space in the properties he owns, and you have said, "That's smart!"

That you have heard him say that it was difficult to help Puerto Rico because it was the middle of water and you have said, "That makes sense."

That you have seen him start fights with every country from Canada to New Zealand while praising Russia and quote, "falling in love" with the dictator of North Korea, and you have said, "That's statesmanship!"

That Trump separated children from their families and put them in cages, managed to lose track of 1500 kids. has opened a tent city incarceration camp in the desert in Texas - he explains that they’re just “animals” - and you say, “well, ok then.”

That you have witnessed all the thousand and one other manifestations of corruption and low moral character and outright animalistic rudeness and contempt for you, the working American voter, and you still show up grinning and wearing your MAGA hats and threatening to beat up anybody who says otherwise.

What you don't get, Trump supporters in 2019, is that succumbing to frustration and thinking of you as stupid may be wrong and unhelpful, but it's also...hear me...charitable.

Because if you're NOT stupid, we must turn to other explanations, and most of them are less flattering.'
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Dont for get this shit...


You fools believed all of these lies...

No Collusion
No one from the campaign spoke with any Russians.
Okay their was one meeting between the campaign and a Russian, but it was only about Adoption.
Trump did not dictate Trump, Jr.'s response about that meeting.
Ok, Trump did dictate the response.
OK, the meeting was about more than adoption.
The meeting was the only meeting with Russians by the campaign.
The meeting was totally one sided, we never gave the Russians any information.
Okay there might have been a few other meetings with Russians, but Trump never knew about it.
Okay The Campaign manager flew to Europe to meet with Russians and coordinated targeting data, but Trump knew nothing about it.
Okay, Trump said he knew nothing about it.

Present day statement...

There was no collusion by Trump himself and he did not know anything about his son's meeting with the Russians or his campaign manager flying to Europe to meet with Russians and coordinate voter targeting data so Trump says.

What do you expect is next?

How did the candidate not know his campaign manager took the time to fly to Europe and met with Russians?


You people have beveled every back track so far, when will you stop being a dupe?
 
Bourbon said:
"Why do Liberals think Trump supporters are Stupid?"
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Who are you calling "liberals?" How do you define "liberals?"

Liberals are libertarians, not leftist authoritarians! Liberals promote and defend the Bill Of Rights, leftist hate the entire Constitution and argue that it's a living document to be defined as leftist wish it to be defined by leftist. Leftist violate every amendment in the Bill Of Rights. Liberals, i.e. libertarians, (small l), live and breath by the literal definitions, i.e. what the text of the amendments actually say. What's "liberal" about gun control? What's "liberal" about political correctness? What's "liberal" about forcing taxpayers who oppose abortion pay for Planned Parenthood? What's "liberal" about promoting a federal government take over of America's healthcare, when amendment 10 awards it to the states and or the people?
 
Tbird19482 said:
Mostof the years Obama wasin office he had a republican Congress and Guess who are the ones that are in charge of spending Congress
https://www.senate.gov/history/partydiv.htm

111th Congress (2009-2011)
Majority Party: Democrat (57 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (41 seats)
Other Parties: 1 Independent; 1 Independent Democrat (both caucus with the Democrats)

112th Congress (2011-2013)
Majority Party: Democrat (51 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (47 seats)
Other Parties: 1 Independent; 1 Independent Democrat (both caucus with the Democrat

113th Congress (2013-2015)
Majority Party: Democrat (53 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (45 seats)
Other Parties: 2 Independents (both caucus with the Democrats)

114th Congress (2015-2017)
Majority Party: Republican (54 seats)
Minority Party: Democrat (44 seats)
Other Parties: 2 Independents (both caucus with the Democrats)
looks like the Republicans took control of the senate

115th Congress (2017-2019)
Majority Party: Republican (51 seats)
Minority Party: Democrat (47 seats)
Other Parties: 2 Independents (both caucus with the Democrats)

Congress (Years)

# of House Seats

Democrats

Republicans

Other

Del./Res.

109th (2005–2007)

435

201

233

Independent (1)

4/1
110th (2007–2009)

435

233

202

0

4/1
111th (2009–2011)

435

257

178

0

5/1
112th (2011–2013)

435

193

242

0

5/1
113th (2013–2015)

435

201

234

0

5/1
114th (2015–2017) 435 188 247 0 5/1
115th (2017–2019) 435 194 241 0 5/1
116th (2019-2021) 4354 235 199 0 5/1

Lets in 2009 Dems had 257

and Repubs had 178

in 2011 to 13 it was 193 dems to 242 republicans

in 2013 to 2015 it was 201 dems to 234 republicans

2015 to 2017 it was 188 Dems to 247 republicans

2017 to 2019 it was 194 Dems to 241 republicans

and now it is 235 Dems to 199 republicans

Obama had to deal with a Republican Congress

and again The incoming President takes over the Budget and the debt when his first fiscal year starts on Oct 1
Have a nice afternoon
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Democrats took control of Congress in 2007. They lost the Congress in 2011. Obama had a Republican Congress to deal with after Jan 2011.
 
Tbird19482 said:
One more question for you have you have you ever heard of the SOFA?
maybe if G W Bush had not tied Obama's hands behind his back Iraq wouldn't have ended up the way it did
Have a nice day
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Maybe if Obama had listened to his Generals it would not have ended up that way. I am amused that liars on the left want to blame Bush for Obama's desire to appease his low IQ constituents and unilaterally pull out of Iraq.

It's almost as amusing as liars on the left now demanding Trump leave troops in Syria indefinitely without a plan.

And YES, leftist liars are massive hypocrites.
 
"Why do Liberals think Trump supporters are Stupid?"

Well..........................................................................

...............................................................................They voted for him didn't they?

BLAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
 
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