Why do Lliberals defend Islam?

WinterBorn said:
Irrelevant? How so? You asked why liberals defend Islam. You have called me a liberal on numerous occasions. I gave a perfectly legitimate answer.

Why won't you answer my question?
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It's irrelevant. I'm not interested in side-tracking, Winter. Start a different thread if you feel so strongly about your opinion. I've yet to see even one rebuttal to my original three reasons.
 
Granule said:
Bullshit. When was the last time anyone on the Left castigated a Muslim?
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Gee I don't know Granule. I wasn't aware that I was to keep track of what other liberals were doing? I can tell you that while I think all religions, including yours, are laugh-out-loud ridiculous at best and disgustingly arrogant and despicable at their worst, I don't waste a lot of time 'castigating' anyone in particular, Muslim or otherwise. However, I'll admit that I have spent my fair share bashing pedophile Catholic priests, on and off-line.


Especially when not being pressed to do so? (Like now) Point your little cat nose at the keyboard and Google it. We'll talk about your results when you come back (probably empty handed)
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For me to invest time googling 'liberals who castigate Muslims', I would first have to GIVE A SHIT. I don't.

My point is legitimate. You'd be done here and spewing your filth in a different thread by now if you believed otherwise.
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No, your point isn't legitimate. Look thee to Post #31 and I explain why it isn't. Go read it. Then realize why your thread's a big, fat, fucking FAIL.
 
Granule said:
It's irrelevant. I'm not interested in side-tracking, Winter. Start a different thread if you feel so strongly about your opinion.
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You asked a question in the OP. You did not say anything about "in general" or about worldwide considerations. In fact, your comment about the welfare state would make it lean towards domestic issues.

I answered with a valid answer. Now you wish to dismiss it without any real reason? lol Forget the liberal nerds, your dodge takes the cake in this thread.

And I am quite sure that many liberals would answer the same way I did, since I know many who took the same oath I did and are still willing to defend it.
 
WinterBorn said:
You asked a question in the OP. You did not say anything about "in general" or about worldwide considerations.
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When someone speaks about Islam and does not assign a specific, geographical, location, what is the logical assumption to make? That's right, he is referring to Islam in general. Don't be obtuse.
 
Bijou said:
Gee I don't know Granule. I wasn't aware that I was to keep track of what other liberals were doing?
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I figured you'd at least have an idea where your comrades are coming from. But don't worry, I believe you. You're telling me that Christianity, Islam, and the Jewish Faith are all on equal footing with you. That you enjoy total neutrality at every level with all three. I suppose you also believe that there are no bad guys in the Israel / Palestine conflict, right?

What's your stance on 9/11 and the presence of US Armed Forces in Afghanistan? Are there bad guys in either of these?
 
Granule said:
When someone speaks about Islam and does not assign a specific, geographical, location, what is the logical assumption to make? That's right, he is referring to Islam in general. Don't be obtuse.
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Oh I see. But when someone posts 3 reasons for why he thinks liberals defend muslims, and one of them is: "2. Islam's impoverished masses are a natural fit with the welfare mentality of the Left", then why would anyone think it is anything but a domestic issue. Is the "welfare mentality" something liberals push in international discussions? Or is it something the work on here in the US?

And when this person asks why liberals defend Islam, and makes no mention of any geographic area, then I am left to think of the times I have seen Islam defended most often. And that would be in the US, such as the NY Mosque argument, the harrassment of muslims and mosques, and the like.

To try and boil down the issues in the Middle East to defending or attacking Islam is simplistic, at best, and totally ridiculous.
 
Granule said:
I figured you'd at least have an idea where your comrades are coming from. But don't worry, I believe you. You're telling me that Christianity, Islam, and the Jewish Faith are all on equal footing with you. That you enjoy total neutrality at every level with all three. I suppose you also believe that there are no bad guys in the Israel / Palestine conflict, right?

What's your stance on 9/11 and the presence of US Armed Forces in Afghanistan? Are there bad guys in either of these?
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So you don't want to be sidetracked by my question, but these questions are relevant? lmao Let me know when you want to discuss an issue instead of trying to lead the thread into very narrow parameters.
 
Granule said:
I figured you'd at least have an idea where your comrades are coming from. But don't worry, I believe you. You're telling me that Christianity, Islam, and the Jewish Faith are all on equal footing with you. That you enjoy total neutrality at every level with all three. I suppose you also believe that there are no bad guys in the Israel / Palestine conflict, right?

What's your stance on 9/11 and the presence of US Armed Forces in Afghanistan? Are there bad guys in either of these?
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Who said I 'enjoy neutrality'? You did, which is yet another erroneous assumption.

My opinion is that religion is stupid. All of them. However, people are free to believe whatever they want. Or not. And not all practices and interpretations of religion are equal. Extremism exists in all of them as a result, as well as contradictions.

Your two questions regarding 'bad guys', in its narrow-minded and dumbed-down simplicity, invites nothing more thoughtful than dumbed-down responses. I'll do what my best to present something comprehensible for you: Men who start conflicts and wars initiated in the name of, or justifed by, religion - or any other presumption of superiority - are the 'bad guys'. Which means that there are 'bad guys' on both sides of the Israeli/Palestine conflict, as well as Afghani 'bad guys' and hegemonic American 'bad guys'. 9/11 was a smorgasbord of 'bad guys', especially the American ones who bankrupted us and killed a hundred times more innocent civilians abroad in its righteous indignation of American exceptionalism. Hope that helps. ;)

You're welcome.
 
Granule said:
No, you didn't. The question is for the Lefties. If you don't have insight as to why they defend Islam, then your opinion isn't worth shit. I'm sorry.
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Nice job dodging the question put to you.

Just another cowardly Rightie always running from debate.
 
WinterBorn said:
It is becoming more and more obvious that Granule will continue to ignore any answers and narrow the parameters of the question until someone answers "Because we hate Christians and the USA".
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Meme is all he ever has .. then he runs.

What would his answers prove that you don't already know?
 
Granule said:
Your answer is a dodge, either way. Even if I posed the question to the general public, your answer still wouldn't shed light on the Left's mysterious affinity for Islam.
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OMG isn't the little granule just precious when he pulls this?


One pathetic dodge after another from ol granny...proving for all to see he's just another typical Rightie.
 
Granule said:
When someone speaks about Islam and does not assign a specific, geographical, location, what is the logical assumption to make? That's right, he is referring to Islam in general. Don't be obtuse.
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Now that he's been cornered by Winter...our petty little coward attempts to move the goalposts...
 
Granule said:
Are you suggesting that there are no bad guys in the Palestine / Israel conflict? That both have legitimate arguments and we should just leave it at that?
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There are no good/bad guys in any conflict. Just soldiers following orders.

Granule said:
I am addressing the liberal defense of Islam, in general. Do you have an appropriate answer?
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Islam is a religion. To denounce a religion because it's not your religion is ignorance.

Granule said:
What's your stance on 9/11 and the presence of US Armed Forces in Afghanistan? Are there bad guys in either of these?
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Do you mean the Saudi's that blew up the Twin Towers, the Taliban in Afghanistan, or the American troops illegally burning Qur'ans and handing out American bibles?

There are extremists in all religions.

Granule said:
I figured you'd at least have an idea where your comrades are coming from. But don't worry, I believe you. You're telling me that Christianity, Islam, and the Jewish Faith are all on equal footing with you.
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See above. As a member of one of those groups, I welcome my fellow man praying to his/her own God.
 
Granule said:
It's a legitimate question that you refuse to answer. You're intellectually dishonest, coal. Just come clean with your opinions. There's nothing wrong with admitting that you defer to Islam and detest Christianity.
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What exactly does that mean, "defer to Islam"?
 
Granule said:
This is an ongoing question that never really seems to get answered, as liberals typically avoid it. But with a little help from JPP's leftist enlightenment squad, we just may get further insight into this confusing mentality. Here are some reasons why I think Liberals have Islam's back. It's a short list, but a compelling one.

1. Unlike Christians, Muslims have zero influence on the Liberal way of life. This makes fighting on their side easy.
2. Islam's impoverished masses are a natural fit with the welfare mentality of the Left.
3. Liberals always pull for the underdog, whether the underdog agrees with them or not.

What are your thoughts?
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You're asking loaded questions and are trying to steer the comments to a particular answer. Why don't you just come out and say what *you* really think, which is that all Muslims are terrorists in the making, that Islam supports terrorism, and that anybody who supports Islam is also a terrorist supporter?

My opinion is that it's no better or worse than any other religion or belief system, and I fully support Americans' right to practice any religion they wish without interference from the government.
 
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